Re: Proposal for Mozilla CA policy extension

2007-02-23 Thread charter77
See: http://registerflies.com/hacked-send-no-money.html That pretty much defines "rogue CA". ___ dev-security mailing list dev-security@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security

Re: Proposal for Mozilla CA policy extension

2007-02-22 Thread charter77
Hardly irrelevant. Their FlySSL CA is under a root which is in the Mozilla store. ___ dev-security mailing list dev-security@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security

Re: Proposal for Mozilla CA policy extension

2007-02-22 Thread charter77
Looks like there's a mix of FlySSL certs out there. Many of them are issued from Geotrust's RapidSSL (with no reference to FlySSL in them). But there are also many from the "ResellerFlyCertificateServices" CA, which is under Comodo's AddTrust root. __

Re: Proposal for Mozilla CA policy extension

2007-02-22 Thread charter77
They are a Geotrust reseller, but also have issued hundreds of ssl from their own FlySSL CA: http://www.registerfly.com/ssl/ They have no CPS or other documentation posted - just the statement "The following information has been self-reported by the entity to which it relates for the purpose of a

Re: Proposal for Mozilla CA policy extension

2007-02-21 Thread charter77
"The Mozilla CA policy will not define/change CA policies and practices. No new audits are needed. Nothing will change in this respect." Untrue. Currently the UI is the same for all SSL, no matter the quality. You are proposing to use the UI to differentiate between grades of SSL ... then you be

Re: Proposal for Mozilla CA policy extension

2007-02-21 Thread charter77
The project you propose is monumental in terms of 1) categorizing the hundreds of certificate classes offered by the dozens of CAs, and 2) auditing compliance with the new tiers. It could also take up to three years to bring the new classification system online, assuming CAs would only issue certi

Re: Proposal for Mozilla CA policy extension

2007-02-20 Thread charter77
There's been some criticism here regarding standards that impose high requirements for financial viability of a CA as well as costly audit regimes. But those requirements do play a role. Witness the ongoing meltdown of the ICANN registrar registerfly.com, which is stranding hundreds of thousands

Re: Study questions EV certs effectiveness?

2007-02-06 Thread charter77
Another study on users' attentiveness, this time based on Sitekey (which uses self-selected images to help users verify they are visiting a trusted site). Apparently users accept that stuff changes all the time on websites/browsers while their habits do not. http://usablesecurity.org/emperor/ "A