Re: Consequences of mis-issuance under CNNIC

2015-04-01 Thread Gervase Markham
On 30/03/15 16:34, Richard Barnes wrote: After some further thought on this issue, I would like to propose the following course of action: 1. Remove the CNNIC root certificates 2. (possibly) Temporarily add the CNNIC intermediate certificates After consideration, I want to record two

Re: Consequences of mis-issuance under CNNIC

2015-04-01 Thread Daniel Roesler
Doh! Apologies for the mix up. One of the downsides of subscribing to the mailing list in digest mode... -Daniel On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:42 PM, dev-security-policy-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote: Message: 2 Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 15:27:18 -0700 From: Kathleen Wilson kwil...@mozilla.com To:

Re: Consequences of mis-issuance under CNNIC

2015-04-01 Thread Reed Loden
CNNIC just released a declaration concerning Google's recent update: http://www1.cnnic.cn/AU/MediaC/Announcement/201504/t20150402_52049.htm 1. The decision that Google has made is unacceptable and unintelligible to CNNIC, and meanwhile CNNIC sincerely urge that Google would take users’ rights

Re: Consequences of mis-issuance under CNNIC

2015-04-01 Thread Richard Barnes
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Matt Palmer mpal...@hezmatt.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 01:35:25PM -0400, Richard Barnes wrote: Alright, one more pass at this. After more feedback from this list (thanks, all!) and some more conversation, I would like to propose something stronger

Re: Consequences of mis-issuance under CNNIC

2015-04-01 Thread Matt Palmer
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 10:06:53PM -0700, Reed Loden wrote: CNNIC just released a declaration concerning Google's recent update: http://www1.cnnic.cn/AU/MediaC/Announcement/201504/t20150402_52049.htm 1. The decision that Google has made is unacceptable and unintelligible to CNNIC, and

Re: Consequences of mis-issuance under CNNIC

2015-04-01 Thread Daniel Roesler
Howdy Kathleen, I'm a bit confused. Part of Richard's proposal (Option F) is to temporarily add CNNIC intermediates to the root store. However, you didn't seem to offer feedback on that part of his proposal. What precedent or procedure does this procedure draw from? Has this been done before?

Re: Consequences of mis-issuance under CNNIC

2015-04-01 Thread Richard Barnes
Alright, one more pass at this. After more feedback from this list (thanks, all!) and some more conversation, I would like to propose something stronger than my last proposal: * Do not remove the CNNIC root, but * Reject certificates chaining to CNNIC with a notBefore date after a threshold

Re: Consequences of mis-issuance under CNNIC

2015-04-01 Thread kwilson
Thank you to all of you who have thoughtfully and constructively contributed to this discussion so far. This discussion is still open, and we will continue to appreciate your input. I believe that the latest proposal from Richard (to reject new certificates chaining to CNNIC roots) is in line

Re: Consequences of mis-issuance under CNNIC

2015-04-01 Thread Matt Palmer
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 01:35:25PM -0400, Richard Barnes wrote: Alright, one more pass at this. After more feedback from this list (thanks, all!) and some more conversation, I would like to propose something stronger than my last proposal: * Do not remove the CNNIC root, but * Reject