Re: Remediation Plan for WoSign and StartCom

2016-10-19 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 3:13:50 PM UTC-7, okaphone.e...@gmail.com wrote: > Perhaps "haste" is not what you want here. How about "urgency"? > Yep. Changed in the wiki page. Thanks, Kathleen ___ dev-security-policy mailing list dev-security-p

Re: Remediation Plan for WoSign and StartCom

2016-10-19 Thread okaphone . elektronika
Perhaps "haste" is not what you want here. How about "urgency"? CU Hans ___ dev-security-policy mailing list dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security-policy

Re: Remediation Plan for WoSign and StartCom

2016-10-19 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 11:50:55 AM UTC-7, Gervase Markham wrote: > > Today at the CAB Forum I outlined some of Mozilla's thinking on how we > rate the severity of incidents. It might be helpful to reproduce that > here. This is what I said: > Thanks, Gerv! I added that text to the wi

Re: Guang Dong Certificate Authority (GDCA) root inclusion request

2016-10-19 Thread Andrew R. Whalley
Hello, Thank you for the links. I note, however, that there's at least one difference between the native language version and the English translation: http://www.gdca.com.cn/cps/cps version 4.3 has a section 4.2.4 covering CAA. https://bug1128392.bmoattachments.org/attachment.cgi?id=8795091 vers

Re: Remediation Plan for WoSign and StartCom

2016-10-19 Thread Gervase Markham
On 19/10/16 11:35, longol...@gmail.com wrote: > Hey Kathleen, hey list, > > I really don't get why Mozilla is pushing so hard on the Chinese and > at the same time let others get away. For example the Comodo case > from today. Isn't that a much worse incident than what has happened > here. Today

Re: Remediation Plan for WoSign and StartCom

2016-10-19 Thread longolius
Hey Kathleen, hey list, I really don't get why Mozilla is pushing so hard on the Chinese and at the same time let others get away. For example the Comodo case from today. Isn't that a much worse incident than what has happened here. People were able to issue certs for other people domains. When

Re: Remediation Plan for WoSign and StartCom

2016-10-19 Thread Tom Ritter
On Oct 19, 2016 11:51 AM, "Ryan Hurst" wrote: > > > Because we're talking about a CA which used their private keys to get > > around baseline requirements/prohibitions by backdating, I would not > > be comfortable trusting them with operating a log where they could do > > the same thing. The addit

Re: Incident Report - OCR

2016-10-19 Thread Daniel McCarney
Hi Robin, > Comodo is performing a thorough review of all server certificates issued by > Comodo between those dates for domains on the .be and .eu TLDs which used > the domain control validation method described in 3.2.2.4.2 of the BRs. Can you elaborate on how this review is being performed?

Re: Remediation Plan for WoSign and StartCom

2016-10-19 Thread Ryan Hurst
> Because we're talking about a CA which used their private keys to get > around baseline requirements/prohibitions by backdating, I would not > be comfortable trusting them with operating a log where they could do > the same thing. The addition of the Google log prevents this to some > degree. So

Re: Remediation Plan for WoSign and StartCom

2016-10-19 Thread Ryan Hurst
On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 12:58:49 AM UTC-7, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > I at least have some concerns about the current gossip draft and talked > a little to dkg about this. I should probably bring this up on the trans > list. > Please do, we would like to see this brought to closure soon and

Incident Report - OCR

2016-10-19 Thread Robin Alden
SUMMARY: Comodo was informed by security researchers Florian Heinz and Martin Kluge that on 23rd September 2016 they had been able to obtain a server authentication certificate [1] from Comodo for a domain which they did not own or control. The researchers shared their discovery with Comodo and t

Re: Remediation Plan for WoSign and StartCom

2016-10-19 Thread Tom Ritter
On 19 October 2016 at 02:58, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On 2016-10-19 01:37, Rob Stradling wrote: >> >> On 18/10/16 23:49, Gervase Markham wrote: >>> >>> On 18/10/16 15:42, Ryan Hurst wrote: I do not understand the desire to require StartCom / WoSign to not utilize their own logs as part

Re: StartCom & Qihoo Incidents

2016-10-19 Thread Michael Ströder
Peter Gutmann wrote: > Ryan Sleevi writes: > >> What is the goal of the root program? Should there be a higher bar for >> removing CAs than adding them? Does trust increase or decrease over time? > > Another thing I'd like to bring up is the absolute silence of the CAB forum > over all this. Ap

Re: Remediation Plan for WoSign and StartCom

2016-10-19 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On 2016-10-19 01:37, Rob Stradling wrote: On 18/10/16 23:49, Gervase Markham wrote: On 18/10/16 15:42, Ryan Hurst wrote: I do not understand the desire to require StartCom / WoSign to not utilize their own logs as part of the associated quorum policy. My original logic was that it could be se