Re: SSL Certs for Malicious Websites

2016-05-16 Thread Richard Z
On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 05:43:39PM -0700, Peter Bowen wrote: > Some CAs may choose to not issue to sites known to inject malware, but > this outside the scope of the SSL requirements. The EV Guidelines it > very clear that the reputation and actions of the Subject are not in > scope: knowingly i

Re: SSL Certs for Malicious Websites

2016-05-18 Thread Richard Z
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 01:04:28AM +, Charles Reiss wrote: > On 05/16/16 12:22, Richard Z wrote: > >On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 05:43:39PM -0700, Peter Bowen wrote: > > > >>Some CAs may choose to not issue to sites known to inject malware, but > >>this outside

Re: SSL Certs for Malicious Websites

2016-05-21 Thread Richard Z
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 05:20:07PM +1000, Matt Palmer wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:14:21PM +0200, Richard Z wrote: > > There are crime friendly providers already and having crime friendly CAs is > > something that users would definitely notice. > > Why? Do users

Re: SSL Certs for Malicious Websites

2016-05-25 Thread Richard Z
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 01:09:53AM -0700, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:25 AM, wrote: > > Here's my question -- what do Google and Microsoft do with such reports? > > Do they investigate and then put a site on the "bad" list, eg, for > > injecting malware? If not, then no on

Re: SSL Certs for Malicious Websites

2016-05-25 Thread Richard Z
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:54:50AM -0400, Eric Mill wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:50 AM, wrote: > > > > > Why should CAs delegate to or rely on browsers for this type of user > > protection? Isn't it better for CAs to remain involved by revoking certs / > > refusing to issue certs to known

Re: MITM detection in the browser

2016-05-31 Thread Richard Z
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:44:05PM -0700, John Nagle wrote: > We need general, automatic MITM detection in HTTP. > > It's quite possible. An MITM attack has a basic quality that makes it > detectable - each end is seeing different crypto bits for the same > plaintext. All they have to do is comp

Re: [FORGED] Re: SSL Certs for Malicious Websites

2016-06-01 Thread Richard Z
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 09:42:00AM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: > On 29/05/16 11:48, Peter Gutmann wrote: > > Are you really trying to claim that the sad farce that is current browser > > PKI > > is absolutely the very best that browser vendors can do in terms of > > protecting > > users online?