Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-09-03 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 2:18 PM Santhan via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 4:37:04 PM UTC-7, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews > wrote: > > Also filed at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577652 > > > > On 2019.08.28 we read

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-09-03 Thread Santhan via dev-security-policy
On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 4:37:04 PM UTC-7, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews wrote: > Also filed at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577652 > > On 2019.08.28 we read Apple’s bug report at > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577014 about DigiCert’s OCSP > responder returning

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-09-02 Thread Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy
On 03/09/2019 00:54, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 2:14 PM Alex Cohn via dev-security-policy < > dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 12:42 PM Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy < >> dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: >> >>> If an OCSP

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-09-02 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 2:14 PM Alex Cohn via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 12:42 PM Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy < > dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > > > If an OCSP server supports returning (or always returns)

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-09-02 Thread Alex Cohn via dev-security-policy
On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 1:36 PM Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > On 02/09/2019 20:13, Alex Cohn wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 12:42 PM Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy < > > dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > > > > Waiting

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-09-02 Thread Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy
On 02/09/2019 20:13, Alex Cohn wrote: On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 12:42 PM Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: If an OCSP server supports returning (or always returns) properties of the actual cert, such as the CT proofs, then it really cannot do its

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-09-02 Thread Alex Cohn via dev-security-policy
On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 12:42 PM Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > If an OCSP server supports returning (or always returns) properties of > the actual cert, such as the CT proofs, then it really cannot do its > usual "good" responses until the

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-09-02 Thread Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy
_ > From: dev-security-policy on > behalf of Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy > > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 9:05:24 AM > To: Tomas Gustavsson ; > mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org > > Subject: Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-09-02 Thread Tomas Gustavsson via dev-security-policy
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 8:58:17 PM UTC+2, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:26 AM Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy < > Despite all of the writing above, I'm too lazy to copy/paste my comment > from the Let's Encrypt issue, but I would hope any CA contemplating things >

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-09-02 Thread Tomas Gustavsson via dev-security-policy
fusing imo. > > From: dev-security-policy on > behalf of Tomas Gustavsson via dev-security-policy > > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 9:00:08 AM > To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org > > Subject: Re: 2019.08.2

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-08-31 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
:24 AM To: Tomas Gustavsson ; mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates I dont recall the cab forum ever contemplating or discussing ocsp for precertificates. The requirement to provide

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-08-31 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
dev-security-policy Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 9:00:08 AM To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 3:13:00 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Rowley wrote: > &g

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-08-31 Thread Tomas Gustavsson via dev-security-policy
thorized for "unknown" responses to save on private key usage? (I'm unable to find it now) > > ________ > From: dev-security-policy on > behalf of Tomas Gustavsson via dev-security-policy > > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 5:01:4

RE: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-08-31 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
You’re right. It could be any of the responses under RFC 6960. From: Alex Cohn Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 7:22 PM To: Jeremy Rowley Cc: Jacob Hoffman-Andrews ; mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized

RE: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-08-31 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
: Ryan Sleevi Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 12:58 PM To: Jeremy Rowley Cc: Jacob Hoffman-Andrews ; mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:26 AM Jeremy Rowley

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-08-31 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
a-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates Hi, I find and hear a few non conclusive, sometimes contradictory, messages about OCSP responder handling of pre-certificates without final certi

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-08-31 Thread Tomas Gustavsson via dev-security-policy
Hi, I find and hear a few non conclusive, sometimes contradictory, messages about OCSP responder handling of pre-certificates without final certificates. Reading this thread I don't find a firm conclusion either (albeit I may have missed it). I'm not saying anything others have not said before,

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-08-30 Thread Alex Cohn via dev-security-policy
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:26 AM Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > Is our answer right though? I wasn't sure. I said "Good" because "a > promise to issue a cert" could be considered the same issued. In that case > the BRs say you must respond

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-08-30 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:26 AM Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > Is our answer right though? I wasn't sure. I said "Good" because "a > promise to issue a cert" could be considered the same issued. In that case > the BRs say you must respond

RE: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-08-30 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
issues. I don't like that outcome because it's complicated and leads to confusion. -Original Message- From: dev-security-policy On Behalf Of Jacob Hoffman-Andrews via dev-security-policy Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 5:37 PM To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: 20

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-08-30 Thread Kurt Roeckx via dev-security-policy
On 2019-08-30 12:14, Jakob Bohm wrote: On 30/08/2019 01:36, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews wrote: Also filed at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577652 On 2019.08.28 we read Apple’s bug report at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577014 about DigiCert’s OCSP responder

Re: 2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-08-30 Thread Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy
On 30/08/2019 01:36, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews wrote: > Also filed at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577652 > > On 2019.08.28 we read Apple’s bug report at > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577014 about DigiCert’s OCSP > responder returning incorrect results for a

2019.08.28 Let’s Encrypt OCSP Responder Returned “Unauthorized” for Some Precertificates

2019-08-29 Thread Jacob Hoffman-Andrews via dev-security-policy
Also filed at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577652 On 2019.08.28 we read Apple’s bug report at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577014 about DigiCert’s OCSP responder returning incorrect results for a precertificate. This prompted us to run our own investigation.