Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-08-05 Thread Rob Stradling
On 05/08/14 09:34, Rob Stradling wrote: Kathleen, to work around the classic NSS path building behaviour you observed yesterday, we will issue another cross-certificate to USERTrust Legacy Secure Server CA, with a newer notBefore date, from our AddTrust External CA Root built-in root. Then, you

Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-08-05 Thread Hubert Kario
- Original Message - From: Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be To: Hubert Kario hka...@redhat.com Cc: Kathleen Wilson kwil...@mozilla.com, mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 12:44:13 AM Subject: Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-08-05 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On 2014-08-05 14:22, Hubert Kario wrote: 0.05% of sites doesn't mean 0.05% of users, especially if we look at local, not global, user share. Some of them are high profile sites, e.g.: volkswagen.at, dell.com, cadillaceurope.com, www.portaldasfinancas.gov.pt It's not because they have an https

Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-08-04 Thread Hubert Kario
- Original Message - From: Hubert Kario hka...@redhat.com - Original Message - From: Kathleen Wilson kwil...@mozilla.com == For this batch of root changes == We are still investigating if we should use this possible solution for this batch of root changes. Please

Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-08-04 Thread Kai Engert
Hubert, what's your conclusion of your analysis? Thanks Kai ___ dev-security-policy mailing list dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security-policy

Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-08-04 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 10:03:13AM -0400, Hubert Kario wrote: So I've analysed the data. Change (without-with) Count -+- complete -219 incomplete+120 untrusted +99 So this is in the order of 0.05%

Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-08-04 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 7/31/14, 1:17 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: Here's what we are doing for this first batch of root changes that was made in NSS 3.16.3, and is currently in Firefox 32, which is in Beta. NSS 3.16.4 will be created and included in Firefox 32. It will only contain these two changes: 1)

Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-08-04 Thread Brian Smith
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Kathleen Wilson kwil...@mozilla.com wrote: It turns out that including the 2048-bit version of the cross-signed intermediate certificate does not help NSS at all. It would only help Firefox, and would cause confusion. That isn't true, AFAICT. It works for

Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-07-31 Thread Brian Smith
Hubert Kario hka...@redhat.com wrote: Brian Smith wrote: It depends on your definition of help. I assume the goal is to encourage websites to migrate from 1024-bit signatures to RSA-2048-bit or ECDSA-P-256 signatures. If so, then including the intermediates in NSS so that all NSS-based

Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-07-31 Thread Kathleen Wilson
On 7/25/14, 3:11 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: == Background == We have begun removal of 1024-bit roots with the following 2 bugs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=936304 -- Remove Entrust.net, GTE CyberTrust, and ValiCert 1024-bit root certificates from NSS

RE: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-07-29 Thread Medin, Steven
-bounces+steve.medin=verizonbusiness@lists.mo zilla.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Wilson Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:29 PM To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability On 7/25/14, 3:11 PM, Kathleen Wilson wrote: On 7/4/14, 6:27 AM

Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-07-04 Thread Hubert Kario
The newly released NSS 3.16.3 doesn't include 1024 bit CA certificates any more[1]. This will of course impact users of servers that still use it. Interestingly, some intermediate CA certificates that were originally signed by those 1024 bit CA certificates got cross signed using different roots

Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-07-04 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 09:27:49AM -0400, Hubert Kario wrote: The newly released NSS 3.16.3 doesn't include 1024 bit CA certificates any more[1]. This will of course impact users of servers that still use it. Interestingly, some intermediate CA certificates that were originally signed by

Re: Removal of 1024 bit CA roots - interoperability

2014-07-04 Thread cloos
Hubert Kario hka...@redhat.com writes: Problem is, that some administrators haven't updated their servers to provide the new intermediate certificate for 3 years. As such, I don't think we can realistically expect all of them to update their configuration now. That is not surprising. IME