Re: Policy 2.4 Proposal: Add CC-0 license to policy

2016-11-30 Thread Gervase Markham
On 30/11/16 21:58, Kurt Roeckx wrote: >> This would involve adding a footer: >> >> Any copyright in this document is dedicated to the Public Domain. >> >> with the link being to http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/. > > public domain and CC0 are very similar, but are not the

Re: Policy 2.4 Proposal:Require open licensing of CPs and CPSes

2016-11-30 Thread Gervase Markham
On 30/11/16 22:29, Han Yuwei wrote: > Is there enough time for CAs to change their license? This is a good question, but I would prefer we discuss them when I start discussion on this topic. I am not starting discussion on all 17 topics at once in order to give people time to think about the 3 I

Re: Policy 2.4 Proposal:Require full CP/CPS in English

2016-11-30 Thread Gervase Markham
On 30/11/16 22:38, Han Yuwei wrote: > I request to postpone this issue for further discussion for reasons below. > > 1. Is English CP/CPS authoritative or just a plain translation? > 2. Requesting every changes to be published in English? > 3. What should we do if there is conflicts between

Re: Discussion about restricting government roots to that country's TLD(s)

2016-11-30 Thread Gervase Markham
On 30/11/16 23:25, Han Yuwei wrote: > Github issue:https://github.com/mozilla/pkipolicy/issues/42 That issue is not currently targetted for 2.4. In the message titled "Mozilla Root Store Policy 2.4: goals and process", I said: > If you think any of them should be targetted at 2.4, please make

Re: Policy 2.4 Proposal:Require full CP/CPS in English

2016-11-30 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/30/2016 3:28 PM, Matt Palmer wrote [in part]: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 02:38:44PM -0800, Han Yuwei wrote [also in part]: >> I request to postpone this issue for further discussion for reasons below. >> >> 1. Is English CP/CPS authoritative or just a plain translation? > > I expect it would

Re: Policy 2.4 Proposal:Require full CP/CPS in English

2016-11-30 Thread Matt Palmer
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 02:38:44PM -0800, Han Yuwei wrote: > I request to postpone this issue for further discussion for reasons below. > > 1. Is English CP/CPS authoritative or just a plain translation? I expect it would be authoritative from Mozilla's perspective; that is, any deviations from

Discussion about restricting government roots to that country's TLD(s)

2016-11-30 Thread Han Yuwei
Github issue:https://github.com/mozilla/pkipolicy/issues/42 My opinions: It's good to restrict government CAs to certain TLDs for reasons below 1. government CA is intented to provide domestic assurance of IDs and services for government's websites. 2. If we assume every government is "evil",

Continue discussion about "Define actions or practices that bar a company from being a trusted CA (#19)"

2016-11-30 Thread Han Yuwei
In https://github.com/mozilla/pkipolicy/issues/19 Gerv talked about what shouldn't CA do but the discussion thread listed didn't continue. There's my questions: 1. What's the definition about "The same organzition"? The structure of large companys are very complicated now. With unaccoutable

Policy 2.4 Proposal:Require full CP/CPS in English

2016-11-30 Thread Han Yuwei
I request to postpone this issue for further discussion for reasons below. 1. Is English CP/CPS authoritative or just a plain translation? 2. Requesting every changes to be published in English? 3. What should we do if there is conflicts between English version and CA's native language due to

Policy 2.4 Proposal:Require open licensing of CPs and CPSes

2016-11-30 Thread Han Yuwei
Is there enough time for CAs to change their license? ___ dev-security-policy mailing list dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security-policy

Re: Policy 2.4 Proposal: Add CC-0 license to policy

2016-11-30 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 09:34:11PM +, Gervase Markham wrote: > CAs may want to copy bits of our policy into their working documents and > other things; the best way to make that easy is to use CC-0. > > This would involve adding a footer: > > Any copyright in this document is dedicated

Policy 2.4 Proposal: Add CC-0 license to policy

2016-11-30 Thread Gervase Markham
CAs may want to copy bits of our policy into their working documents and other things; the best way to make that easy is to use CC-0. This would involve adding a footer: Any copyright in this document is dedicated to the Public Domain. with the link being to

Policy 2.4 Proposal: Replace all occurrences of 'CA' with "Certification Authority' when that is the intended meaning

2016-11-30 Thread Gervase Markham
We need to be clear in our terminology. The policy itself uses "CA" (or "issuing CA" or "subordinate CA") to refer to the organization and "CA certificate" to refer to the certificate fairly consistently. The two exceptions which need fixing are: Inclusion point 5 ("additional CAs")

Mozilla Root Store Policy 2.4: goals and process

2016-11-30 Thread Gervase Markham
Hi all, The Mozilla root store policy has not been updated since July 2013 - 3.5 years ago. We are now on the verge of shipping version 2.3, which contains some edits which have been pending for more than a year, agreed during the last period of policy update activity. That version will be

Policy 2.4 Proposal: Make clear that duplicate serial numbers are OK when supporting CT

2016-11-30 Thread Gervase Markham
At least for RFC 6962 (-bis is a different issue), pre-certs are certs and so the duplication of (issuer name, serial number) between the pre-cert and the cert is technically a violation of Mozilla policy; we reserve the right not to include CAs who issue certs with "duplicate issuer names and

Apple's Further Steps for WoSign

2016-11-30 Thread certificate-authority-prog...@group.apple.com
Further Steps for WoSign After further investigation we have concluded that in addition to multiple control failures in the operation of the WoSign certificate authority (CA), WoSign did not disclose the acquisition of StartCom. We are taking further actions to protect users in an upcoming