adding and removing certificate while FF3 is running?

2008-07-23 Thread joshuaaa
I was under the impression (read somewhere here) that firefox 3 would allow the cert database to be updated WHILE firefox was running. I'm getting the same old behavior in FF3. ie. remove cert while firefox is open, view cert manager and the cert still exists. Have I misunderstood or am I doing som

Re: Decline in firefox usage due to lacking CA certificates

2008-07-23 Thread Thorsten Becker
Jean-Marc Desperrier schrieb: > So the solution I'd be in favor of is : > - Declare the current SSL error screen a failure > - Let people go through the SSL error screen easily, just like in Fx 2 > - After they have gone though the SSL error screen and as long as they > stay on this SSL site, dis

question about certificate chain from https://suppliers.intel.com

2008-07-23 Thread Peter Djalaliev
Hello, I tried connecting to http://suppliers.intel.com (which redirects to https://supplier.intel.com/supplierhub) from Firefox 3 and IE7 and saw two different certificate chains when I tried to view the server certificate. IE7 recognized the root certificate as coming from a trusted issuer, whi

Re: question about certificate chain from https://suppliers.intel.com

2008-07-23 Thread Peter Djalaliev
The correct initial URL is http://supplier.intel.com, redirected to https://supplier.intel.com/supplierhub ___ dev-tech-crypto mailing list dev-tech-crypto@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-tech-crypto

Re: enabling crypto hardware for NSS

2008-07-23 Thread David Sadler
Is this IBM linux? Red Hat Linux? or ? (I ask because I know that Red Hat Linux supports mod_nss in Apache, but I was not aware that it was also being used in any IBM Linux. That would be good to know.) I am using SUSE 10 Linux, with Red Hat Linux's mod_nss compiled on SUSE Linux. I have a qu

Re: question about certificate chain from https://suppliers.intel.com

2008-07-23 Thread Eddy Nigg
Peter Djalaliev: > Hello, > > I tried connecting to http://suppliers.intel.com (which redirects to > https://supplier.intel.com/supplierhub) from Firefox 3 and IE7 and saw > two different certificate chains when I tried to view the server > certificate. IE7 recognized the root certificate as comin

Re: question about certificate chain from https://suppliers.intel.com

2008-07-23 Thread Eddy Nigg
Eddy Nigg: > IE fetches CA certificates on its own if a service URL of the CA issues /issues/issuer/ -- Regards Signer: Eddy Nigg, StartCom Ltd. Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: https://blog.startcom.org ___ dev-tech-crypto mailing list dev-tech-cryp

Re: question about certificate chain from https://suppliers.intel.com

2008-07-23 Thread Peter Djalaliev
Ah, I see. From what I can see in the RFC, this usage is not really forbidden, but not really standard either. Generalizing my question, what kind of X509v3 extensions that NSS currently support? I am aware that CA often use these extensions in less-than-standard ways :) Peter On Jul 23, 11:2

Re: Failed to toggle FIPS mode with JSS

2008-07-23 Thread Dean
On Jul 22, 7:15 pm, "Wan-Teh Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've been reading around about key generation and key material > > manipulation and am hearing that key material manipulations is not > > allowed in FIPs mode. Th

Re: question about certificate chain from https://suppliers.intel.com

2008-07-23 Thread Eddy Nigg
Peter Djalaliev: > Ah, I see. From what I can see in the RFC, this usage is not really > forbidden, but not really standard either. Generalizing my question, > what kind of X509v3 extensions that NSS currently support? I am aware > that CA often use these extensions in less-than-standard ways :)

Re: Failed to toggle FIPS mode with JSS

2008-07-23 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Dean wrote, On 2008-07-23 09:08: > Thanks for the answers Wan-Teh and Nelson ... and I do agree with both > of you that the work around would be an abuse of FIPs and I shouldn't > do it if I hope to claim FIPs compliance. > > I'm clearly missing a piece of the puzzle. > > Essentially I have an

Re: question about certificate chain from https://suppliers.intel.com

2008-07-23 Thread Eddy Nigg
Nelson B Bolyard: > Eddy Nigg wrote, On 2008-07-23 08:26: > >> IE fetches CA certificates on its own if a service URL of the CA issues >> is present in the parent certificate, but NSS doesn't for now. > > Rather, Firefox 3 does not use the facility of NSS that is capable of > fetching certs in that

Re: question about certificate chain from https://suppliers.intel.com

2008-07-23 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Eddy Nigg wrote, On 2008-07-23 09:26: > Well, the RFC requires the server to send any chained CA certificate up > to the CA root. The server doesn't have to send the root CA certificate > itself however. Correct. The TLS RFC requires that the server sends the chain. The fact that it is now po

Re: question about certificate chain from https://suppliers.intel.com

2008-07-23 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Eddy Nigg wrote, On 2008-07-23 08:26: > IE fetches CA certificates on its own if a service URL of the CA issues > is present in the parent certificate, but NSS doesn't for now. Rather, Firefox 3 does not use the facility of NSS that is capable of fetching certs in that fashion. NSS 3.12 has lo

Comparison of OpenSSL and NSS

2008-07-23 Thread Ruchi Lohani
Hi all, Since a lot of open source softwares are using NSS, I wish to know whether we have some documentation on specifics of OpenSSL and NSS and the advantages NSS has over OpenSSL. If so, can anybody direct me over that or just give a brief comparison of both. Thanks Ruchi _

Re: adding and removing certificate while FF3 is running?

2008-07-23 Thread joshuaaa
On Jul 23, 4:20 pm, Nelson B Bolyard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > joshuaaa wrote, On 2008-07-22 23:56: > > > I was under the impression (read somewhere here) that firefox 3 would > > allow the cert database to be updated WHILE firefox was running. I'm > > getting the same old behavior in FF3. ie. r

Re: Comparison of OpenSSL and NSS

2008-07-23 Thread Daniel Stenberg
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Ruchi Lohani wrote: > Since a lot of open source softwares are using NSS, I wish to know whether > we have some documentation on specifics of > > OpenSSL and NSS and the advantages NSS has over OpenSSL. If so, can anybody > direct me over that or just give a brief comparison

Re: enabling crypto hardware for NSS

2008-07-23 Thread David Sadler
In mozilla-nss.spec BUILD_OPT is set to 1 %build cd mozilla/security/nss export CFLAGS="$RPM_OPT_FLAGS -fno-strict-aliasing" export NSPR_INCLUDE_DIR=`nspr-config --includedir` export NSPR_LIB_DIR=`nspr-config --libdir` export BUILD_OPT=1 export LIBDIR=%{_libdir} %ifarch x86_64 s390x ppc64 ia64 exp

Re: question about certificate chain from https://suppliers.intel.com

2008-07-23 Thread Eddy Nigg
Nelson B Bolyard: > > Note that, when it sends the http get request to fetch the cert, it has > not yet validated the cert from which it got the http URL, so it doesn't > know if that URL is legitimate or from some hacker. It blindly fetches > whatever the server at that URL sends it. Quite a few

Re: adding and removing certificate while FF3 is running?

2008-07-23 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
joshuaaa wrote, On 2008-07-22 23:56: > I was under the impression (read somewhere here) that firefox 3 would > allow the cert database to be updated WHILE firefox was running. I'm > getting the same old behavior in FF3. ie. remove cert while firefox is > open, view cert manager and the cert still

Re: question about certificate chain from https://suppliers.intel.com

2008-07-23 Thread Anders Rundgren
IMO opinion IE does the right thing. The problem is actually worse in the other direction since FF (at least 2.x) forces you to manually install intermediate certificates for PIV/FIPS201 cards in order for the selection process to work correctly. Although AIA CA Issuer is listed as a non-critica

RE: A general question about libnss3

2008-07-23 Thread Ruchi Lohani
Found this in Ubuntu bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnss-db/+bug/238500 Even though there are symlinks for each library but the SONAME differs for all on Ubuntu and any other Linux distribution. On Ubuntu objdump -p /usr/lib/libnss3.so | grep SONAME gives libnss3.so.1d where

Re: Comparison of OpenSSL and NSS

2008-07-23 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 11:43 PM +0200 7/23/08, Daniel Stenberg wrote: >If you can stand a comparison that also involves GnuTLS, then the GnuTLS guys >have one: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/gnutls/comparison.html There are a lot of question marks on that for NSS. Someone familiar with all the NSS extensions

Re: adding and removing certificate while FF3 is running?

2008-07-23 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
joshuaaa wrote, On 2008-07-23 14:38: > On Jul 23, 4:20 pm, Nelson B Bolyard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> joshuaaa wrote, On 2008-07-22 23:56: >> >>> I was under the impression (read somewhere here) that firefox 3 would >>> allow the cert database to be updated WHILE firefox was running. I'm >>> ge

Re: enabling crypto hardware for NSS

2008-07-23 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
David Sadler wrote, On 2008-07-23 08:12: > > Is this IBM linux? Red Hat Linux? or ? > (I ask because I know that Red Hat Linux supports mod_nss in Apache, but > I was not aware that it was also being used in any IBM Linux. That would > be good to know.) > > I am using SUSE 10 Linux, with Red

Re: A general question about libnss3

2008-07-23 Thread Wan-Teh Chang
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Ruchi Lohani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Found this in Ubuntu bugs > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnss-db/+bug/238500 > > Even though there are symlinks for each library but the SONAME differs > for all on Ubuntu and any other > Linux distribution. O

Re: Comparison of OpenSSL and NSS

2008-07-23 Thread Wan-Teh Chang
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Daniel Stenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you can stand a comparison that also involves GnuTLS, then the GnuTLS guys > have one: > >http://www.gnu.org/software/gnutls/comparison.html That's a useful page. The code size table is missing libfreebl3 a

Re: enabling crypto hardware for NSS

2008-07-23 Thread Wan-Teh Chang
2008/7/23 David Sadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > In mozilla-nss.spec BUILD_OPT is set to 1 > > %build > cd mozilla/security/nss > export CFLAGS="$RPM_OPT_FLAGS -fno-strict-aliasing" > export NSPR_INCLUDE_DIR=`nspr-config --includedir` > export NSPR_LIB_DIR=`nspr-config --libdir` > export BUILD_OPT=1

Re: question about certificate chain from https://suppliers.intel.com

2008-07-23 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Eddy Nigg wrote, On 2008-07-23 14:30: > Nelson B Bolyard: >> Note that, when it sends the http get request to fetch the cert, it has >> not yet validated the cert from which it got the http URL, so it doesn't >> know if that URL is legitimate or from some hacker. It blindly fetches >> whatever th

Re: Decline in firefox usage due to lacking CA certificates

2008-07-23 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Thorsten Becker wrote, On 2008-07-23 03:38: > One problem I have with the current implementation > is: A user gets a big warning about an unknown and untrusted > certificate. In the next step, he can add an exception. That process is > a bit difficult. And it should be difficult. I totally agr

Re: adding and removing certificate while FF3 is running?

2008-07-23 Thread joshuaaa
On Jul 23, 7:40 pm, Nelson B Bolyard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > joshuaaa wrote, On 2008-07-23 14:38: > > > > > On Jul 23, 4:20 pm, Nelson B Bolyard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> joshuaaa wrote, On 2008-07-22 23:56: > > >>> I was under the impression (read somewhere here) that firefox 3 would >

Re: adding and removing certificate while FF3 is running?

2008-07-23 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
joshuaaa wrote, On 2008-07-23 20:30: > Sorry for the confusion. It would be greatly appreciated if anyone can > shed some light on this subject. I've spent plenty of hours > researching and haven't come up with anything promising. > > Anyone know if this can be accomplished through an extension?

Re: Decline in firefox usage due to lacking CA certificates

2008-07-23 Thread Daniel Holbert
Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: > This is something that I've seen also, and it makes me worried that the > current Fx solution *doesn't* really work as advertised. > > The people see the warning, and the next minute, they start IE to access > the site. > > Think about it : Instead of protecting th

Re: Decline in firefox usage due to lacking CA certificates

2008-07-23 Thread Thorsten Becker
Nelson B Bolyard schrieb: > >> I think the solution that Jean-Marc outlined above would make some >> sense: It would make it a bit easier to visit certain sites, but disturb >> permanently if someone visits a site that has no trust anchor in firefox. > > There's a great deal of evidence, and co