Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 10/05/2009 05:49 AM, Eddy Nigg: So the server sent a nice error page as you say, most browsers including Firefox and Explorer will have to be completly restarted in order to authenticate again. Or the servers session is set to a very short time like 10 seconds, which has other drawback's p

Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 10/05/2009 05:40 AM, Eddy Nigg: If the browser has no cert to send, it sends a "I have no cert" message. And what exactly do you expect the server should return in that case? Probably that you can't authenticate without a certificate...it's about as lame It's entirely up to the

Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 10/05/2009 05:13 AM, Nelson B Bolyard: Eddy, We're talking about the status of the client cert, not the server cert. Yes, exactly! The client doesn't do a validity check on its own cert before using it. Really? Do me a favor and perform a few tests against the StartSSL authentic

Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
On 2009-10-04 19:55 PDT, Eddy Nigg wrote: > On 10/05/2009 03:41 AM, Nelson B Bolyard: >> That's not true. It's likely true for some servers, but not for SWS. >> >> And, in any case, the case where the browser has no cert to send is not >> one of the cases described by the original poster. > > Wel

Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 10/05/2009 03:41 AM, Nelson B Bolyard: That's not true. It's likely true for some servers, but not for SWS. And, in any case, the case where the browser has no cert to send is not one of the cases described by the original poster. Well, there is no difference in the reporting by Firefo

Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
On 2009-10-04 13:37 PDT, Eddy Nigg wrote: > On 10/04/2009 09:23 PM, Nelson B Bolyard: >> On 2009-10-03 15:52 PDT, Jereme Bulzor wrote: >> >>> I've enabled client authentication in Sun One Web Server 6.1 and it does >>> work fine when the client certificate is valid. >>> I would like to present t

Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Kyle Hamilton
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Ian G wrote: > On 04/10/2009 22:37, Eddy Nigg wrote: >> >> On 10/04/2009 09:23 PM, Nelson B Bolyard: >>> >>> On 2009-10-03 15:52 PDT, Jereme Bulzor wrote: >>> I've enabled client authentication in Sun One Web Server 6.1 and it does work fine when the clien

Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Peter Djalaliev
> It is our standard security nightmare.  Side A thinks it is Side B's > problem.  Side B thinks it is Side A's problem.  In the meantime the > user doesn't use the tech because it doesn't work, and the sides are too > busy arguing to solve the problem.  So zero security is delivered. > > In this

Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Peter Djalaliev
> So this could be re-written:  Is there something we can do for browsers > to show something more enlightening than > "ssl_error_handshake_failure_alert" when seeing this common error? > Yes. The bad news is that the "something we can do" is very browser specific. In the case of Mozilla Firefo

Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Ian G
On 04/10/2009 22:37, Eddy Nigg wrote: On 10/04/2009 09:23 PM, Nelson B Bolyard: On 2009-10-03 15:52 PDT, Jereme Bulzor wrote: I've enabled client authentication in Sun One Web Server 6.1 and it does work fine when the client certificate is valid. I would like to present the user with a good er

Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 10/04/2009 09:23 PM, Nelson B Bolyard: On 2009-10-03 15:52 PDT, Jereme Bulzor wrote: I've enabled client authentication in Sun One Web Server 6.1 and it does work fine when the client certificate is valid. I would like to present the user with a good error message instead of the generic o

Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
On 2009-10-03 15:52 PDT, Jereme Bulzor wrote: > I've enabled client authentication in Sun One Web Server 6.1 and it does > work fine when the client certificate is valid. > I would like to present the user with a good error message instead of the > generic one when his certificate is not valid. > I

Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 10/04/2009 07:45 AM, Meena Vyas: Please ask Sun Web Server related questions in forum http://forums.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=759 This is a Firefox issue, not a server-side problem. Here is a tracking bug with many different bugs regarding client authentication: https://bugzilla.mozill

Re: [Fwd: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure]

2009-10-04 Thread Meena Vyas
Please ask Sun Web Server related questions in forum http://forums.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=759 Subject: How to display the cause of an SSL client authentication failure From: "Jereme Bulzor" Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 00: