Re: KISA root CA certificate inclusion request

2008-03-30 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: OK, so in that case KISA itself is becoming an auditor. Would KISA then issue audit reports about the various CAs in question? What would be the pros and cons of having each licensed CA approved instead of KISA as a wild card CA for a whole country? One

Re: KISA root CA certificate inclusion request

2008-03-30 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/30/2008 4:57 AM, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Hi Frank, I agree with everything you said below for regular, standard CAs. This is what the policy knew when it was written. There is a CA, they have a root and some intermediate CA certificates (according to the recommendations

Re: KISA root CA certificate inclusion request

2008-03-30 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: I agree with everything you said below for regular, standard CAs. This is what the policy knew when it was written. There is a CA, they have a root and some intermediate CA certificates (according to the recommendations after all), they are one entity taking

Re: KISA root CA certificate inclusion request

2008-03-30 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
Frank Hecker wrote, On 2008-03-30 04:29: Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: OK, so in that case KISA itself is becoming an auditor. Would KISA then issue audit reports about the various CAs in question? What would be the pros and cons of having each licensed CA approved instead of KISA as a

Re: KISA root CA certificate inclusion request

2008-03-30 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Frank, in order to continue the discussion below I really want to understand first 1.) If our stated goal is simply to facilitate the inclusion of as many CAs as possible 2.) If the principals guiding us are limited to the Mozilla CA policy only 3.) And if is, what we want, simply to provide

Re: KISA root CA certificate inclusion request

2008-03-30 Thread Frank Hecker
Nelson B Bolyard wrote: But I believe we have already decided, in principle, to approve certs for CAs that are subordinate to some root that is not approved, when the subordinate CA meets the criteria, but the root does not. Yes, I recall this discussion. However in the KISA case my opinion is

Re: KISA root CA certificate inclusion request

2008-03-30 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Frank Hecker: Nelson B Bolyard wrote: But I believe we have already decided, in principle, to approve certs for CAs that are subordinate to some root that is not approved, when the subordinate CA meets the criteria, but the root does not. Yes, I recall this discussion. However in

Re: KISA root CA certificate inclusion request

2008-03-28 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: I think the question raised with that CA was also, if the audit covers the whole CA infrastructure, i.e. all different independent CAs operating under the KISA root. If I remember right, the CPS has no provision in that respect and the audit covers only

Re: KISA root CA certificate inclusion request

2008-03-28 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.): KISA is a CA authorized and commissioned by the their government, however the operating CAs are not government CAs, but regular CAs with commercial interests etc. So this makes it a bit tricky I think... I forgot to add, that there is a difference between a CA

Re: KISA root CA certificate inclusion request

2008-01-22 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Also many times there are some umbrella CAs setup to support those regulations and by including them, it will include automatically a bunch of other CAs as well. I believe KISA is such a CA...?? Yes, as noted in the bug KISA/KCAC doesn't issue end entity

Re: KISA root CA certificate inclusion request

2008-01-21 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Hi Frank, Having had a look at this request last summer and followed the entries of Gerv I wanted to ask you some quick question before investing more time on this... As per your comment 61 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335197#c61 how did you establish the audit performed by

Re: KISA root CA certificate inclusion request

2008-01-21 Thread Frank Hecker
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: As per your comment 61 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335197#c61 how did you establish the audit performed by the Korean Ministry of Information and Communication to be equivalent to the Webtrust (assuming AICPA) criteria? This was stated by