Re: OT: Oracle buys Sun

2009-04-20 Thread Arash Rajaeeyan
I may be a little bad for some sun products, but in whole it would be great
for java vs .net platformOracle is second largest software vendor.
I am afraid this may cause other companies like IBM to move away from Java
platform

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone I just read at the german Heise site that Oracle has bought
 Sun for 7.4 billion dollars.

 I wonder what the implications in the long run will be.

 My personal thought is that it might finally become possible that the RI
 and MyFaces can merge...

 Java: Probably business as usual but maybe it will become more open!

 OpenOffice will probably be maintained with the business as usual.

 Same goes for OpenSolaris/Solaris

 But I see a rather black future for Netbeans and MySQL...
 (I would be sad if Netbeans would go away the IDE is simply excellent)

 Also the proposed IceFaces merger as base for a future JSF-Sun component
 set might be now dead in the light of Oracle having already something in
 their portfolio!

 As for the Sun hardware division that is a big question, but I personally
 guess Oracle will try to keep it alive and make it a cash cow again!




-- 
Arash Rajaeeyan


Re: OT: Oracle buys Sun

2009-04-20 Thread Alan Hancock
What would IBM move to? Why would  Java be any different with Oracle  
from

 IBM's perspective?


-Alan via iPhone


On Apr 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Arash Rajaeeyan  
arash.rajaee...@gmail.com wrote:


I may be a little bad for some sun products, but in whole it would  
be great for java vs .net platform

Oracle is second largest software vendor.
I am afraid this may cause other companies like IBM to move away  
from Java platform


On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.com  
wrote:
Hello everyone I just read at the german Heise site that Oracle has  
bought Sun for 7.4 billion dollars.


I wonder what the implications in the long run will be.

My personal thought is that it might finally become possible that  
the RI and MyFaces can merge...


Java: Probably business as usual but maybe it will become more open!

OpenOffice will probably be maintained with the business as usual.

Same goes for OpenSolaris/Solaris

But I see a rather black future for Netbeans and MySQL...
(I would be sad if Netbeans would go away the IDE is simply excellent)

Also the proposed IceFaces merger as base for a future JSF-Sun  
component set might be now dead in the light of Oracle having  
already something in their portfolio!


As for the Sun hardware division that is a big question, but I  
personally guess Oracle will try to keep it alive and make it a cash  
cow again!





--
Arash Rajaeeyan


Re: OT: Oracle buys Sun

2009-04-20 Thread Arash Rajaeeyan
Oracle is a bigger competitor for IBM, has a more aggressive strategy and
much less committed to open source,for example they have promised to open
source Oracle ADF RC for nearly two years, (Apache RCF) but you can't see
any progress.
now Oracle will have the most complete software stack even more complete
than Microsoft!
although MySQL was very popular but it was not a direct competitor of DB2
(But Oracle is)
and Solaris and AIX had their own customers, Sparc and Power platform had
their own market share two,
but now with popularity of Oracle DB, Oracle can boost Sparc and Solaris
sale, and get more market share from IBM.
in software market because of Strong position of Oracle, they may need less
commitment to open source and open standards.
cheers
Arash

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Alan Hancock suddenrush9...@gmail.comwrote:

 What would IBM move to? Why would  Java be any different with Oracle from
  IBM's perspective?


 -Alan via iPhone

 On Apr 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Arash Rajaeeyan arash.rajaee...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I may be a little bad for some sun products, but in whole it would be great
 for java vs .net platformOracle is second largest software vendor.
 I am afraid this may cause other companies like IBM to move away from Java
 platform

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Werner Punz  werner.p...@gmail.com
 werner.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone I just read at the german Heise site that Oracle has bought
 Sun for 7.4 billion dollars.

 I wonder what the implications in the long run will be.

 My personal thought is that it might finally become possible that the RI
 and MyFaces can merge...

 Java: Probably business as usual but maybe it will become more open!

 OpenOffice will probably be maintained with the business as usual.

 Same goes for OpenSolaris/Solaris

 But I see a rather black future for Netbeans and MySQL...
 (I would be sad if Netbeans would go away the IDE is simply excellent)

 Also the proposed IceFaces merger as base for a future JSF-Sun component
 set might be now dead in the light of Oracle having already something in
 their portfolio!

 As for the Sun hardware division that is a big question, but I personally
 guess Oracle will try to keep it alive and make it a cash cow again!




 --
 Arash Rajaeeyan




-- 
Arash Rajaeeyan


Re: OT: Oracle buys Sun

2009-04-20 Thread Zubin Wadia
My two cents:

http://zwadia.com/?p=91

Cheers,

Zubin.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Arash Rajaeeyan arash.rajaee...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Oracle is a bigger competitor for IBM, has a more aggressive strategy and
 much less committed to open source,for example they have promised to open
 source Oracle ADF RC for nearly two years, (Apache RCF) but you can't see
 any progress.
 now Oracle will have the most complete software stack even more complete
 than Microsoft!
 although MySQL was very popular but it was not a direct competitor of DB2
 (But Oracle is)
 and Solaris and AIX had their own customers, Sparc and Power platform had
 their own market share two,
 but now with popularity of Oracle DB, Oracle can boost Sparc and Solaris
 sale, and get more market share from IBM.
 in software market because of Strong position of Oracle, they may need less
 commitment to open source and open standards.
 cheers
 Arash

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Alan Hancock suddenrush9...@gmail.comwrote:

 What would IBM move to? Why would  Java be any different with Oracle from
  IBM's perspective?


 -Alan via iPhone

 On Apr 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Arash Rajaeeyan arash.rajaee...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I may be a little bad for some sun products, but in whole it would be
 great for java vs .net platformOracle is second largest software vendor.
 I am afraid this may cause other companies like IBM to move away from Java
 platform

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Werner Punz  werner.p...@gmail.com
 werner.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone I just read at the german Heise site that Oracle has
 bought Sun for 7.4 billion dollars.

 I wonder what the implications in the long run will be.

 My personal thought is that it might finally become possible that the RI
 and MyFaces can merge...

 Java: Probably business as usual but maybe it will become more open!

 OpenOffice will probably be maintained with the business as usual.

 Same goes for OpenSolaris/Solaris

 But I see a rather black future for Netbeans and MySQL...
 (I would be sad if Netbeans would go away the IDE is simply excellent)

 Also the proposed IceFaces merger as base for a future JSF-Sun component
 set might be now dead in the light of Oracle having already something in
 their portfolio!

 As for the Sun hardware division that is a big question, but I personally
 guess Oracle will try to keep it alive and make it a cash cow again!




 --
 Arash Rajaeeyan




 --
 Arash Rajaeeyan