Re: Kannel is suffering

2005-02-11 Thread Paul P Komkoff Jr
Replying to Stipe Tolj: now, first of all. This policy, if I'm free to proclaim it in that way, is not invented by people maintaining Kannel. It's invented by various other open source projects where not only software engeneering aspects come in play, but also politics, in some sence and

Re: Kannel is suffering

2005-02-11 Thread Paul P Komkoff Jr
Replying to Stipe Tolj: And for the record. From my experience. Politics and efficiency are orthogonal in best case. In worst case politics is counterproductive. Real life lies between that two, and, as you can see, there isn't any gains in being err, umm, political. -- Paul P 'Stingray'

Re: Kannel is suffering

2005-02-11 Thread Pommnitz, Jörg
Frequently the efforts seen here are not to abstract, but to turn down suggestions, because they are not present in all protocols. That is not abstraction. That is backward thinking. Kannel would benefit from some real abstraction efforts with a forward view of supporting all protocols to

Re: Kannel is suffering

2005-02-11 Thread Stipe Tolj
Paul P Komkoff Jr wrote: Replying to Stipe Tolj: now, first of all. This policy, if I'm free to proclaim it in that way, is not invented by people maintaining Kannel. It's invented by various other open source projects where not only software engeneering aspects come in play, but also politics,

Re: Kannel is suffering

2005-02-11 Thread Aarno Syvänen
If we were to implement official protocol standards, we must make difference between genuine optional (used by one/some protocol) or things common with all protocols, and needed by users of all protocols. Last ones *must* be handled by abstraction (we must maintain all protocols, and without

Re: [RFC] sqlbox as own cvs module - votes please

2005-02-11 Thread Aarno Syvänen
+1 from me. We need new things *on the top* of Kannel. Aarno On 11.2.2005, at 00:56, Stipe Tolj wrote: Hi list, I'd like to promote Rene Kluwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] to gain cvs write access in order to contribute his sqlbox as own cvs module. He is willing to put it under Kannel projection and

receiving the messageid - another approach until a DLR parameter is introduced.

2005-02-11 Thread Hillel Bilman
Dear Alex, The ts is the messageid for smpp. If you use the dlr table for internal Kannel storage, then the ts is stored in the dlr table until the SMS is delivered. Can't Kannel have another column in the dlr storage table called smsid? Then you will at least know which smsid corresponds to

Re: Cannot use modem.

2005-02-11 Thread Magnus Byrkjeflot
How? I've not used it before addr2line -e gw/bearerbox 00488314 -f gw_panic ??:0 Magnus On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:34:47 +0100, Stipe Tolj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Magnus Byrkjeflot wrote: I'm having some problems using an GSM modem as SMSC. I am using a AMD64 machine on Fedora

Re: Kannel is suffering

2005-02-11 Thread Paul P Komkoff Jr
Replying to Stipe Tolj: I agree. In that extend that ugly pachtes are getting in if the demanding market is really that big. Ok, some may say now: you say a) and then b) again, which is contrairy. No! What I mean is that the group is not a group of puristic people (ok, let's don't count

[PATCH] curl

2005-02-11 Thread Paul P Komkoff Jr
attached -- Paul P 'Stingray' Komkoff Jr // http://stingr.net/key - my pgp key This message represents the official view of the voices in my head Index: gateway.A9/acinclude.m4 === --- gateway.A9.orig/acinclude.m42004-11-06

[PATCH] charset

2005-02-11 Thread Paul P Komkoff Jr
attached -- Paul P 'Stingray' Komkoff Jr // http://stingr.net/key - my pgp key This message represents the official view of the voices in my head Index: gateway.A9/configure.in === --- gateway.A9.orig/configure.in2004-11-06

[PATCH] msisdn-accounting

2005-02-11 Thread Paul P Komkoff Jr
attached -- Paul P 'Stingray' Komkoff Jr // http://stingr.net/key - my pgp key This message represents the official view of the voices in my head Index: gateway.A9/gw/wap-appl.c === --- gateway.A9.orig/gw/wap-appl.c 2004-11-06

Re: incorrect comparison of ppg_service_name and msg-sms.service in smsbox.c:obey_request_thread()

2005-02-11 Thread Aarno Syvänen
Now, smsbox really shows what code would look like if you just hack on. Knowing this very well, being one of these hackers ;) I will test this. Thanks for reporting. Aarno On 10.2.2005, at 16:19, Stipe Tolj wrote: Davy Chan wrote: I've been looking at this off and on since Jan of this year. It

Re: Cannot use modem.

2005-02-11 Thread Magnus Byrkjeflot
Here is the GDB backtrace Hope this helps... [EMAIL PROTECTED] kannel-snapshot]# gdb gw/bearerbox core.22708 GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (6.1post-1.20040607.43rh) Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to

Re: [PATCH] curl

2005-02-11 Thread Stipe Tolj
Paul P Komkoff Jr wrote: attached ok, I may be picky again... but I'll be anyway ;) As far as I understand, this means, libcurl support is optional via configure switch --enable-curl, right? Some points I'd like to see cleaned: * moving curl_XXX functions to an own file instead of mudging it

Re: [PATCH] charset

2005-02-11 Thread Stipe Tolj
Paul P Komkoff Jr wrote: attached please drop some shade on what this patch does. In order to make code review easier and voting speed-up. Stipe mailto:stolj_{at}_wapme.de --- Wapme Systems AG Vogelsanger Weg 80 40470 Düsseldorf,

Re: [PATCH] charset

2005-02-11 Thread Paul P Komkoff Jr
Replying to Stipe Tolj: Paul P Komkoff Jr wrote: attached please drop some shade on what this patch does. In order to make code review easier and voting speed-up. Later today, I'm overwhelmed right now. Basically, it avoids sending any accept-charset headers learnt from phone, and

Re: [PATCH] msisdn-accounting

2005-02-11 Thread Stipe Tolj
Paul P Komkoff Jr wrote: attached +1, commited with slight changes. Thanks a lot. Also added a compatiblity warning to NEWS file for upcoming 1.4.1 stable release, since this changes wapbox's access-log format. Stipe mailto:stolj_{at}_wapme.de

Re: [Fwd: Requesting DLR for binary messages]

2005-02-11 Thread Enver ALTIN
Hi, On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 14:56 +0100, Stipe Tolj wrote: Seems like DLR-related stuff is transmitted in UDH, and that's what I'm overriding so Kannel's dlr-mask just doesn't seem to work. what do you mean with DLR stuff transmitted in UDH?? It was just a false alert, and because of an

Re: [PATCH] curl

2005-02-11 Thread Dziugas Baltrunas
Hi, As far as I understand, this means, libcurl support is optional via configure switch --enable-curl, right? Some points I'd like to see cleaned: * moving curl_XXX functions to an own file instead of mudging it into gw/wap-appl.c. This is not the appropriate place IMO. * code style.

Re: receiving the messageid - another approach until a DLR parameter is introduced.

2005-02-11 Thread Davy Chan
**From: Hillel Bilman [EMAIL PROTECTED] **To: Alexander Malysh [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Subject: receiving the messageid - another approach until a DLR parameter is ** introduced. **Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:21:26 +0200 **Cc: Kannel Devel devel@kannel.org ** **Dear Alex, ** **The ts is the

Next expected release date of Kannel stable 1.4.1?

2005-02-11 Thread Davy Chan
Any idea when the freeze will be for generation of v1.4.1? I've got a large patch to the Kannel userguide but am currently stuck trying to get DocBooks to support Section numbering without hacking the system Docbook templates. If the freeze for v1.4.1 is imminent, then I'll say the hell with

Re: Next expected release date of Kannel stable 1.4.1?

2005-02-11 Thread Stipe Tolj
Davy Chan wrote: Any idea when the freeze will be for generation of v1.4.1? I've got a large patch to the Kannel userguide but am currently stuck trying to get DocBooks to support Section numbering without hacking the system Docbook templates. If the freeze for v1.4.1 is imminent, then I'll say

Re: Cannot use modem.

2005-02-11 Thread Stipe Tolj
Magnus Byrkjeflot wrote: How? I've not used it before addr2line -e gw/bearerbox 00488314 -f gw_panic ??:0 do a man addr2line for more details. Stipe mailto:stolj_{at}_wapme.de --- Wapme Systems AG Vogelsanger Weg 80 40470

Re: [PATCH] WSP headers with end-of-string value

2005-02-11 Thread Stipe Tolj
commited to cvs. Stipe mailto:stolj_{at}_wapme.de --- Wapme Systems AG Vogelsanger Weg 80 40470 Düsseldorf, NRW, Germany phone: +49.211.74845.0 fax: +49.211.74845.299 mailto:info_{at}_wapme-systems.de http://www.wapme-systems.de/

Re: [PATCH] curl

2005-02-11 Thread Enver ALTIN
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 16:38 +0200, Dziugas Baltrunas wrote: A snip from doc/CodingStyle: Don't add new features and make them conditionally compiled. Either add them completely, or don't add them at all. Should it now be removed? A very good catch. I think we should remove

Re: messageid DLR parameter

2005-02-11 Thread Davy Chan
**From: fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] **To: devel devel@kannel.org **Subject: Re: messageid DLR parameter **Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:44:37 +1100 ** **Well, to get to the 15 Bytes transferred, I did not include the thousands **of CPU cycles to create and pass those 15 bytes from bearerbox to smsbox.

Re: [PATCH] curl

2005-02-11 Thread Davy Chan
**Subject: Re: [PATCH] curl **From: Enver ALTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] **To: devel@kannel.org **In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Organization: Parkyeri **Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:09:19 +0200 ** **On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 16:38 +0200, Dziugas Baltrunas wrote: ** A snip from doc/CodingStyle: ** **

Re: [PATCH] charset

2005-02-11 Thread Alexander Malysh
Hi Paul, patch looks good except small comments... comments to this patch: --- gateway.A9.orig/configure.in2004-11-06 17:36:55.728060912 +0300 +++ gateway.A9/configure.in2004-11-06 17:46:21.818002160 +0300 @@ -216,6 +216,18 @@ ] ) +AC_MSG_CHECKING([whether to do all wapbox

Re: [PATCH] charset

2005-02-11 Thread Paul P Komkoff Jr
Replying to Alexander Malysh: why NEW_CHARSET? would it be possible to name this as help message (e.g. UTF8_CHARSET) because it's just confusing at least me? ok I will +charset=octstr_duplicate(content.charset); possible memleak why ?

Re: [RFC] sqlbox as own cvs module - votes please

2005-02-11 Thread Alexander Malysh
Hi, I'm also +1 but don't see a easy way to handle such things with CVS (and again my ++1 for subversion switch ;)). Stipe Tolj wrote: Hi list, I'd like to promote Rene Kluwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] to gain cvs write access in order to contribute his sqlbox as own cvs module. He is willing

Re: [PATCH] curl

2005-02-11 Thread Paul P Komkoff Jr
Replying to Stipe Tolj: As far as I understand, this means, libcurl support is optional via configure switch --enable-curl, right? Yes, that is for those people who want gwlib's http for some reason. My testing shows that curl is more reliable, though ... ;( Some points I'd like to see

Re: [PATCH] curl

2005-02-11 Thread Alexander Malysh
hi, joust one idea: would it be possible to put curl things into gwlib into extra file and provide some compat layer for kannel's http interface so that _all_ users of gwlib/http would benefit (e.g. smsc_http/smsbox/etc.)? Paul P Komkoff Jr wrote: Replying to Stipe Tolj: As far as I

Re: [Kannel-Devel] Re: Kannel is suffering

2005-02-11 Thread Peter Beckman
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Jørgen Thomsen wrote: should [Kannel] be a framework to handle several protocols as 'abstracted' as possible but with provisions for handling all aspects of a specific protocol. In my view the latter is a much more useful and challenging point of view. +1. While I agree with

Re: New Features Question

2005-02-11 Thread Jonathan Houser
Alex, I didn't say it's a best way, it's one of possible ways :) I would incline to put those either in new .c file and just call generated functions or in .h file and include it... it's up to you how better to proceed here. Oh, it's messy indeed. I've got the thing re-written inside