On 03/10/2010 06:55 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
I agree, there was obviously a divisive and destructive aspect to that
meeting.
Jonathan, Do you have any thoughts on what we can do to correct it?
Follow basic IRC etiquette for meetings
- Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
There actually already *is* a review point
prior to moving to -updates, but it's currently owned by rel-eng and
is
not highly publicized, and very little gets rejected. It is there,
though: rel-eng explained this earlier in the threads, and
On 03/09/2010 06:20 PM, Ewan Mac Mahon wrote:
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 05:55:33PM +, Terry Barnaby wrote:
On 09/03/10 16:50, Ewan Mac Mahon wrote:
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 09:33:45AM -0500, Al Dunsmuir wrote:
I have limited time to do system installs and maintenance. Sticking
with one
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 04:51:52PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Till Maas wrote:
You need to update packages from updates-testing first and then it's
useful to run it. Please look at the wiki for example output.
Would your script break, say, if he was using the bodhi-client from
Am Dienstag, den 09.03.2010, 20:25 -0500 schrieb Seth Vidal:
I agree, there was obviously a divisive and destructive aspect to that
meeting.
Jonathan, Do you have any thoughts on what we can do to correct it?
Seth, respect would be a good starting point.
20:45:30 cwickert I know there
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 06:47:00AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
We shouldn't be held hostage to various threats. We shouldn't be afraid to
try something because a vocal few are ranting against it.
I could, of course, be very wrong. However threatening to leave the project
if various things
Instead of worrying about the occasional brokenness caused by an update to a
stable release, how about focusing on a mechanism to easily recover from it? As
long as the update hasn't corrupted any critical files, my non-optimal solution
is to head over to koji, grab the last version of the
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 06:47:00AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:07:39AM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 09.03.2010, 20:25 -0500 schrieb Seth Vidal:
I agree, there was obviously a divisive and destructive aspect to that
meeting.
Jonathan, Do you
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:47:00 -0500, Josh wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:07:39AM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 09.03.2010, 20:25 -0500 schrieb Seth Vidal:
I agree, there was obviously a divisive and destructive aspect to that
meeting.
Jonathan, Do you have any
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote:
Seth, respect would be a good starting point.
20:45:30 cwickert I know there are people that will leave Fedora if
we decide a policy that forbids major updates. both users and
contributors
20:45:42 skvidal cwickert: people threatening to leave
On Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 7:24:18 AM, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 13:06, Steven I Usdansky
Your proposal especially doesn't address the third point. How do
effectively you rollback the package on the mirrors when you don't
control them?
Assuming reversion to an
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Hash: SHA1
On 03/10/2010 01:06 PM, Steven I Usdansky wrote:
Instead of worrying about the occasional brokenness caused by an update to a
stable release, how about focusing on a mechanism to easily recover from it?
There is no real recovery for traditional
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Michael Schwendt wrote:
I can agree with that last sentence in parts. Please don't forget the
order of incidents, however. First the early-warning system with hundreds
of messages and multiple threads, which made several packagers think do
they want to ruin the
On 03/10/2010 05:36 PM, Steven I Usdansky wrote:
Instead of worrying about the occasional brokenness caused by an update to a
stable release, how about focusing on a mechanism to easily recover from it?
As long as the update hasn't corrupted any critical files, my non-optimal
solution is to
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 01:38:09PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
20:45:42 skvidal cwickert: people threatening to leave should leave
20:45:48 skvidal orphan your packages and go
20:45:57 skvidal I'll be glad to clean up that mess
While the phrasing may or may not be over the top, I read
Next week is the wiki freeze for Fedora 13 Release Notes.
If you have something important that needs to be in the release notes,
update the appropriate wiki beat.
Go to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Beats
and select the appropriate beat. Then add a note to that beat.
Your update
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:55:08 -0500 (EST), Seth wrote:
Michael,
Do you really think you're attitude has been respectful and helpful
throughout all the time. Do you consider history at all?
It seems to be enough that you do. Whatever you may remember
correctly, I don't know what it is. You
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:50:25AM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
Do you like it when someone, who isn't getting their way threatens to take
their ball and go home?
There is a big difference between people threatening to take their ball
home if something happens that they don't like, and people
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:59:56 +, Ewan wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:50:25AM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
Do you like it when someone, who isn't getting their way threatens to take
their ball and go home?
There is a big difference between people threatening to take their ball
home
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:29:28AM +0100, Milos Jakubicek wrote:
Also thanks for packaging that immediately -- what about installing it
by default? It's a tiny package and we really do want our users to
provide feedback.
I do not mind, if it is installed by default, but I am not sure,
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 15:51 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
It surprised me to see FESCo fight like that in a meeting. Some members
are beside themselves in rage. Steering is hard, let's go shopping.
Whether someone is 'besides themselves in rage' is really hard to infer
from an irc log. I
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 13:08 +0100, Till Maas wrote:
Afaics this does not affect some minor issue, but a fundamental reason
why package maintainer decided to become Fedora package maintainers.
No volunteer package maintainer is in general forced to create updates
and I am very sure that the
On 03/09/2010 05:23 PM, nodata wrote:
Does Zimbra still ship as a blob of specific versions of lots of open
source software, of which the specific versions cannot be changed?
Also, the last time I looked, it had a bundled copy of the Sun JDK (not
the open sourced one either).
~spot
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On Wednesday, 10 March 2010 at 16:22, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 13:08 +0100, Till Maas wrote:
Afaics this does not affect some minor issue, but a fundamental reason
why package maintainer decided to become Fedora package maintainers.
No volunteer package maintainer is
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
Another question - how many broken things we shipped in release that could be
fixed by updates? We shipped lot of unfinished, feature incomplete stuff in
history...
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, drago01 wrote:
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
Another question - how many broken things we shipped in release that could
be
fixed by updates? We shipped lot of unfinished,
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:46:54 -0500 (EST)
Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, drago01 wrote:
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Seth Vidal
skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
Another question - how many broken
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:22:37AM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 13:08 +0100, Till Maas wrote:
Afaics this does not affect some minor issue, but a fundamental reason
why package maintainer decided to become Fedora package maintainers.
No volunteer package maintainer
Hi,
I tried to install this new Goddard thing on my laptop and it seems to be b0rken
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572243
Any chance to get graphical installer with vesa driver?
Regards,
Michal
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 04:06:58AM -0800, Steven I Usdansky wrote:
Instead of worrying about the occasional brokenness caused by an
update to a stable release, how about focusing on a mechanism to
easily recover from it? As long as the update hasn't corrupted any
critical files, my non-optimal
On Wednesday 10 March 2010 17:14:41 Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I tried to install this new Goddard thing on my laptop and it seems to be
b0rken https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572243
Any chance to get graphical installer with vesa driver?
Regards,
Michal
afaik you have
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 14:59 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
There is no strong dependency between man and man-pages.
man is just one utility amongst many utilities which can be used to
process man-pages.
Perhaps it would make sense to introduce a Provides:(man-reader) or some
such and add a
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:
Good news everyone,
you can probably expect to receive more positive bodhi karma for your
updates in the future (or you already got unexpected much), because
there is now a script called 'fedora-easy-karma'[0], that makes
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 04:38:53PM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
On Wednesday, 10 March 2010 at 16:22, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 13:08 +0100, Till Maas wrote:
Afaics this does not affect some minor issue, but a fundamental reason
why package maintainer
On 10/03/10 16:14, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I tried to install this new Goddard thing on my laptop and it seems to be
b0rken
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572243
Any chance to get graphical installer with vesa driver?
Regards,
Michal
What version *.iso did you try
2010/3/10 Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com:
On 10/03/10 16:14, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I tried to install this new Goddard thing on my laptop and it seems to be
b0rken
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572243
Any chance to get graphical installer with vesa driver?
Hi,
Please review the attached patch for this bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538525
Description is included in the patch:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=398875action=edit
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=398875action=diff
Thanks.
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Hi,
Please review the patch for the following bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570542
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=398976action=edit
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=398976action=diff
Thanks.
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:53:49 -0500,
Simo Sorce sso...@redhat.com wrote:
What I don't get, seriously, is why people in 2. can't use rawhide or
the latest updates-testing and instead pretend to inflict almost
rawhide on everybody else.
Because updates-testing is really for testing not
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 14:06:12 -0500,
Doug Ledford dledf...@redhat.com wrote:
Things like the libata kernel change and KDE 3 to 4 migration are
intentional events and all that's needed to make the transition smooth
is to coordinate the release of a seamless upgrade package set. You
I
On Wednesday, 10 March 2010 at 17:34, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 04:38:53PM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
wrote:
[...]
Agreed. However, we should ask ourselves if it's better to have a package
in our distribution even if it doesn't fit ideally with the rest or
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Matthew Woehlke wrote:
You forget people developing proprietary software...
Why would we want to encourage or even support that?
I don't expect Fedora to encourage it (nor should we, IMO)... but that
doesn't change the reality of $DAYJOB. If Fedora drops multilib, I will
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 01:20:21 +0530,
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
As opposed to fake security threats? In the case of the kernel, if the
new kernel update we rush through without passing via updates-testing
repo doesn't boot you can always boot back into an older kernel but
Matthew Woehlke wrote:
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Matthew Woehlke wrote:
You forget people developing proprietary software...
Why would we want to encourage or even support that?
I don't expect Fedora to encourage it (nor should we, IMO)... but that
doesn't change the reality of $DAYJOB. If
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 00:52:38 +0530,
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me know what you think
This should be split into two policy proposals.
One should cover QA related processes for pushing updates.
The second should cover expectations on what kinds of updates packagers
A newer version of gdbm (1.8.0-1.8.3) has been pushed into rawhide
(devel) branch. This version changes libgdbm soname, so all packages
using gdbm _must be rebuilt_.
The soname change is needed as the new version moves dbm and ndbm
routines to separate library gdbm_compat.
The new version
Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:29:42 -0600, Matthew wrote:
There are just too many -devel packages and their dependencies to be ever
relevant to someone for multi-arch installs. Far more users install i686 on
64-bit CPUs, and I have doubts that x86_64 installation users do
On 03/08/2010 09:29 PM, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
Michael Schwendt wrote:
There are just too many -devel packages and their dependencies to be ever
relevant to someone for multi-arch installs. Far more users install i686 on
64-bit CPUs, and I have doubts that x86_64 installation users do much
Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:30:05 -0600, Matthew wrote:
Probably because
I need multilib and have never experienced multilib-related problems (or
if I have, they were so trivial as to be thoroughly forgettable).
Just out of interest, does enabling a separate 32-bit
Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) said:
Also thanks for packaging that immediately -- what about installing it
by default? It's a tiny package and we really do want our users to
provide feedback.
I do not mind, if it is installed by default, but I am not sure,
whether this is a good
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 11:56 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 03/10/2010 11:40 AM, Ivana Hutarova Varekova wrote:
from my point of view, the vast majority of users uses man to show the
wanted man-page content (the reason to add the dependency).
Agreed.
Actually, I am having problems to
There are nearly no facts, so everyone is just
guessing and many people are just ignoring objections.
That is true, indeed.
But do we really need detailed statistics to make a good decision?
All of us have an experience with Fedora over the last years. And I
*guess* ( :-) ) most or even
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 17:20 +0100, Michal Hlavinka wrote:
On Wednesday 10 March 2010 17:14:41 Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I tried to install this new Goddard thing on my laptop and it seems to be
b0rken https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572243
Any chance to get graphical
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:30 -0500, Chris Ball wrote:
Now, there's a reasonable argument that says that Fedora users without
FAS accounts didn't vote for FESCo, so it's still legitimate to ask
*those* users what they
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:30 -0500, Chris Ball wrote:
Now, there's a reasonable argument that says that Fedora users without
FAS accounts didn't vote for FESCo, so it's still legitimate to ask
*those* users what they
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:30 -0500, Chris Ball wrote:
Now, there's a reasonable argument that says that Fedora users without
FAS accounts
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 13:44 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 17:20 +0100, Michal Hlavinka wrote:
On Wednesday 10 March 2010 17:14:41 Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I tried to install this new Goddard thing on my laptop and it seems to be
b0rken
I can install F13 in text mode later and send some more informations
about these issues with both drivers.
Regards,
Michal
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On 03/10/2010 02:16 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 03/10/2010 06:55 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
I agree, there was obviously a divisive and destructive aspect to that
meeting.
Jonathan, Do you have any thoughts on what we can do to correct it?
Follow basic IRC etiquette for meetings
On 03/10/2010 02:53 PM, George C. Wilson wrote:
IBM supports the TCG DRTM standard efforts. After the approval of the TCG
DRTM standard, IBM is planning to develop and provide DRTM UEFI support in
its System X product line.
That's all well and good, but is there a reason you sent this to the
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote:
On 03/10/2010 02:16 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 03/10/2010 06:55 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
I agree, there was obviously a divisive and destructive aspect to that
meeting.
Jonathan, Do you have any thoughts on what we can do
Compose started at Wed Mar 10 09:15:11 UTC 2010
Broken deps for i386
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blahtexml-0.6-5.fc12.i686 requires libxerces-c.so.28
doodle-0.6.7-5.fc12.i686 requires libextractor.so.1
easystroke-0.5.2-1.fc13.i686 requires
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Robyn Bergeron
robyn.berge...@gmail.com wrote:
That looks to be about 400 people need to randomly selected and
complete the survey (for +/- 5%). to get down to 1% you would need to
get 6500 people.
I don't think that the near-impossibility of having a
Bill Nottingham wrote:
Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) said:
Also thanks for packaging that immediately -- what about installing it
by default? It's a tiny package and we really do want our users to
provide feedback.
I do not mind, if it is installed by default, but I am not sure,
whether
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:18 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:13 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Some basics I'd propose as a starting point for defining acceptance
criteria include:
1. repoclosure/conflicts - no package update can introduce broken
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 13:18 +, Paul Howarth wrote:
On 09/03/10 20:43, James Laska wrote:
Some basics I'd propose as a starting point for defining acceptance
criteria include:
1. repoclosure/conflicts - no package update can introduce broken
deps or conflicts. I'd
Hadn't seen this discussed yet (not really a big hardware geek), and
just saw an article about this today. Are we (linux as a whole) ready
for this or getting ready, or already using it? And If we bought a new
hd, via sata in my case within past year or newer computer in past year,
are we using
On 2010/03/10 15:22 (GMT-0600) Mike Chambers composed:
Hadn't seen this discussed yet (not really a big hardware geek), and
just saw an article about this today. Are we (linux as a whole) ready
for this or getting ready, or already using it?
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 03:22:13PM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
Hadn't seen this discussed yet (not really a big hardware geek), and
just saw an article about this today. Are we (linux as a whole) ready
for this or getting ready, or already using it? And If we bought a new
hd, via sata in my
Subject: subtree search fails to find items under a db containing
special characters
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=199923
Files:
ldap/servers/plugins/syntaxes/validate.c
ldap/servers/slapd/back-ldbm/ldbm_add.c
ldap/servers/slapd/dn.c
Fix Description:
dn.c: Based upon RFC
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 13:21 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 23:11 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Either we (package maintainers) are qualified to make sane decisions
about our package or we are not. I don't really see a middle ground
here.
Being qualified to do
On Mar 10, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
This sounds like it's similar to what we saw with the vboxvideo driver,
right? When that failed it didn't fall back to vesa, either...
Quite possibly... The issue was that it knew the driver it was looking for and
attempted to load it,
Mike Chambers wrote:
Hadn't seen this discussed yet (not really a big hardware geek), and
just saw an article about this today. Are we (linux as a whole) ready
for this or getting ready, or already using it? And If we bought a new
hd, via sata in my case within past year or newer computer in
On 03/10/2010 04:22 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
Hadn't seen this discussed yet (not really a big hardware geek), and
just saw an article about this today. Are we (linux as a whole) ready
for this or getting ready, or already using it? And If we bought a new
hd, via sata in my case within past
On 03/10/2010 04:30 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2010/03/10 15:22 (GMT-0600) Mike Chambers composed:
Hadn't seen this discussed yet (not really a big hardware geek), and
just saw an article about this today. Are we (linux as a whole) ready
for this or getting ready, or already using it?
Doug Ledford wrote:
Things like the libata kernel change and KDE 3 to 4 migration are
intentional events
That's the whole problem. Under our current model, we have places and times
where to perform those intentional disruptive changes, they're called
releases. In a consumable Rawhide, we
On 2010/03/10 17:09 (GMT-0500) Ric Wheeler composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
The change is for the benefit of manufacturers, not users. Readiness is only
spotty. The discussion has been extensive and ongoing on the linux-ide
mailing list.
Users do benefit as well - more capacity per platter
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 16:08 -0800, Josh Stone wrote:
It seems to cast doubt on the value of karma -- just because something
gets lots of positive karma on N doesn't mean that N-1 is ok. Then
again, the same concern is present in any grouped update if the voters
haven't
Matthew Miller wrote:
although something called OpenChange was added for MS Exchange access in
Fedora 11.
OpenChange != Open-Xchange
In fact they're completely different:
Open-Xchange is groupware software, to some extent a clone of M$ Exchange,
but using open protocols.
OpenChange is an
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2010/03/10 17:09 (GMT-0500) Ric Wheeler composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
The change is for the benefit of manufacturers, not users. Readiness is only
spotty. The discussion has been extensive and ongoing on the linux-ide
mailing list.
Users do benefit as well - more
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 17:28 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2010/03/10 17:09 (GMT-0500) Ric Wheeler composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
The change is for the benefit of manufacturers, not users. Readiness is
only
spotty. The discussion has been extensive and ongoing on the linux-ide
mailing
On 03/10/2010 05:28 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2010/03/10 17:09 (GMT-0500) Ric Wheeler composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
The change is for the benefit of manufacturers, not users. Readiness is only
spotty. The discussion has been extensive and ongoing on the linux-ide
mailing list.
Users do
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 01:21:45PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 23:11 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Either we (package maintainers) are qualified to make sane decisions
about our package or we are not. I don't really see a middle ground
here.
Being qualified to do
On Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 8:09:40 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 16:08 -0800, Josh Stone wrote:
It seems to cast doubt on the value of karma -- just because something
gets lots of positive karma on N doesn't mean that N-1 is ok. Then
again, the same
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 22:44 +, Ewan Mac Mahon wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 01:21:45PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 23:11 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Either we (package maintainers) are qualified to make sane decisions
about our package or we are not. I
This Thursday, 2010-03-11, is webcam Test Day [1]. It's really pretty
simple: if you have a webcam we want you to boot up a recent Fedora and
check if it works. There's detailed instructions on the Wiki page but
that's really what it boils down to - fire up your webcam, run Cheese or
something
On Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 5:59:20 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 22:44 +, Ewan Mac Mahon wrote:
The LHC is an interesting analogy; it certainly has problems that can be
picked out with 20:20 hindsight, but there was no way anyone could have
changed the processes in
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 09:34:15AM -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
1) Comments could allow for multi-line code. I tried to paste stuff in
and well skipped a couple of packages from the paste :)
Do you have any wish about how this should behave? I was thinking that
e.g. a comment like EOF
Dne 10.3.2010 16:35, Tom spot Callaway napsal(a):
On 03/09/2010 05:23 PM, nodata wrote:
Does Zimbra still ship as a blob of specific versions of lots of open
source software, of which the specific versions cannot be changed?
Also, the last time I looked, it had a bundled copy of the Sun JDK
Hello,
I was trying to install Fedora 13 Alpha using BFO utility and I got an error
during the download of the install.img. I saw that the url for the
install.img is wrong:
URL that use BFO utility:
http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub
URL valid:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/
it
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 18:16 -0500, Al Dunsmuir wrote:
On Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 5:59:20 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 22:44 +, Ewan Mac Mahon wrote:
The LHC is an interesting analogy; it certainly has problems that can be
picked out with 20:20 hindsight, but there
When: Friday, 2010-03-12 @ 16:00 UTC (11 AM EST)
Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net
It's that time again: blocker bug review meeting time! Tomorrow is the
first blocker bug review meeting for Fedora 13 Beta.
Here are the current bugs listed as blocking the Beta release. We'll be
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 09:34:15AM -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
1) Comments could allow for multi-line code. I tried to paste stuff in
and well skipped a couple of packages from the paste :)
Do you have any wish
Matthew Woehlke wrote:
Hmm, maybe then you are thinking of things that are far less
stand-alone. The only run-time environment we care about is that the
program can be executed (so, kernel can load it, glibc.i?86 exists,
etc.). We tend to have very few if any dependencies beyond libc (and
Al Dunsmuir wrote:
The update to an older stable release should be made widely available
in that release's updates-testing after the equivalent (not
necessarily identical) fix has been widely tested in the latest stable
release.
Uh, no, just no.
They should go to updates-testing
I wrote:
* yum install glibc.i686.
Actually, you probably want glibc-devel.i686. But my point still stands, as
long as you require only a few 32-bit packages, requesting them explicitly
is not the end of the world. So if we were to drop support for that always
install all libs as multilibs
* Kevin Kofler [11/03/2010 00:08] :
OpenChange is an implementation of the M$ Exchange protocols, allowing Free
Software groupware clients to interoperate with M$ Exchange.
It's a requirement for Zarafa which is basically a bridge between open
protocols (IMAP, POP, Caldav, ...) and Exchange's
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Mario Chacon wrote:
Hello,
I was trying to install Fedora 13 Alpha using BFO utility and I got an error
during the download of the install.img. I
saw that the url for the install.img is wrong:
URL that use BFO utility:
http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub
URL
On 03/10/2010 05:38 PM, Peter Jones wrote:
On 03/10/2010 05:28 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2010/03/10 17:09 (GMT-0500) Ric Wheeler composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
The change is for the benefit of manufacturers, not users. Readiness is
only
spotty. The discussion has
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