Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.9 alpha

2010-11-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/26/2010 04:50 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > The draft release notes are at http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.9.0 > and Fedora compatible SRPM(s) can be found at > http://laiskiainen.org/rpm/srpms/ I am using this now on my Fedora 14 box and I haven't noticed any obvious breakages. Beyond that,

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-26 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 10:24:34 +0100 Olaf Kirch wrote: > 3. Why not NetworkManager? > > On the other hand, there's NetworkManager (and I'm getting to this point > because Pete Zaitcev brought this up). Right now, NetworkManager doesn't > handle bridges, bonds, infiniband, token ring - that's why I

[Bug 657153] Circular Dependency between perl-Readonly and perl-Readonly-XS

2010-11-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=657153 --- Comment #6 from Andrew McNaughton 2010-11-26 19:26:03 EST --- I sorted it our for my own purposes by removing one of the de

Re: orphaning licq

2010-11-26 Thread François Cami
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > I'm no longer interested in this package, so I'm going to orphan in it. > IMHO there is not much users anyway, so how about removing it entirely? I'd like to take it if you orphan it, if you don't mind. François -- devel mailing list deve

Building production machines out-of-place, regenerating certs when a machine's identity changes, etc.

2010-11-26 Thread Philip Prindeville
I recently rebuilt a failing mail server (sendmail and cyrus-imapd), replacing the hardware and building the replacement machine offline (leaving the current server in place while I did so). This would seem normal enough to do, but had some unintended pitfalls that really should be more address

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 04:02:28PM -0500, Jon Masters wrote: > Hi Olaf, > > Thanks for posting about your project. > > On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 10:24 +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: > > > 1. ifcfg files are dead > > Ok. But I think we want to be very careful with this. Yes, it's nice to > use structured

Re: Recent changes in java-1.6.0-openjdk (font dependencies)

2010-11-26 Thread TK009
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 4:45 PM, TK009 wrote: > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Ronald Wahl wrote: >> Hi, >> >> today I was very surprised that updating my F13 system required me to >> install ~20 fonts packages. Digging around a bit showed me that change >> in the java-1.6.0-openjdk package: >>

Re: Recent changes in java-1.6.0-openjdk (font dependencies)

2010-11-26 Thread TK009
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Ronald Wahl wrote: > Hi, > > today I was very surprised that updating my F13 system required me to > install ~20 fonts packages. Digging around a bit showed me that change > in the java-1.6.0-openjdk package: > > http://osdir.com/ml/general/2010-11/msg38744.html >

[perl-Net-Patricia/f14/master: 4/4] Merge remote branch 'origin/master' into f14

2010-11-26 Thread Philip Prindeville
commit e8e6105c017c7d1f48bd9b2b9514e22e6c8297fc Merge: 618acad 9c9fdbe Author: Philip Prindeville Date: Fri Nov 26 14:28:44 2010 -0700 Merge remote branch 'origin/master' into f14 .gitignore |3 +++ perl-Net-Patricia.spec | 18 +++--- sources|

[perl-Net-Patricia/f14/master] (4 commits) ...Merge remote branch 'origin/master' into f14

2010-11-26 Thread Philip Prindeville
Summary of changes: 2075f03... Maintenance version update. (*) 4588717... Improve parameter checking. (*) 9c9fdbe... Re-release of 1.18_81 as 1.19. (*) e8e6105... Merge remote branch 'origin/master' into f14 (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedor

[perl-Net-Patricia/f13/master: 2/2] Merge remote branch 'origin/master' into f13

2010-11-26 Thread Philip Prindeville
commit 1b4a95193c488baadda7eb3ba2ff8eea67ef59b7 Merge: e623d13 9c9fdbe Author: Philip Prindeville Date: Fri Nov 26 14:19:22 2010 -0700 Merge remote branch 'origin/master' into f13 .gitignore |1 + perl-Net-Patricia.spec |5 - sources|2 +- 3 fil

[perl-Net-Patricia/f13/master] (2 commits) ...Merge remote branch 'origin/master' into f13

2010-11-26 Thread Philip Prindeville
Summary of changes: 9c9fdbe... Re-release of 1.18_81 as 1.19. (*) 1b4a951... Merge remote branch 'origin/master' into f13 (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing li

[Bug 561389] amavisd-new always reports Shutting down amavisd: Daemon [19248] terminated by SIGTERM

2010-11-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561389 --- Comment #15 from Fedora Update System 2010-11-26 16:12:21 EST --- amavisd-new-2.6.4-2.fc13 has been pushed to the Fedora 13

[Bug 561389] amavisd-new always reports Shutting down amavisd: Daemon [19248] terminated by SIGTERM

2010-11-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561389 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added --

[Bug 649761] RFE - Update POE::Component::IRC to version 6.50

2010-11-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649761 --- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System 2010-11-26 16:06:05 EST --- perl-POE-Filter-IRCD-2.42-1.fc14 has been pushed to the Fe

[Bug 561389] amavisd-new always reports Shutting down amavisd: Daemon [19248] terminated by SIGTERM

2010-11-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561389 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added --

[Bug 561389] amavisd-new always reports Shutting down amavisd: Daemon [19248] terminated by SIGTERM

2010-11-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=561389 --- Comment #14 from Fedora Update System 2010-11-26 16:04:38 EST --- amavisd-new-2.6.4-2.fc14 has been pushed to the Fedora 14

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-26 Thread Jon Masters
Hi Olaf, Thanks for posting about your project. On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 10:24 +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: > 1. ifcfg files are dead Ok. But I think we want to be very careful with this. Yes, it's nice to use structured data formats but IMO we want to make sure sysadmins can still edit files by hand

Recent changes in java-1.6.0-openjdk (font dependencies)

2010-11-26 Thread Ronald Wahl
Hi, today I was very surprised that updating my F13 system required me to install ~20 fonts packages. Digging around a bit showed me that change in the java-1.6.0-openjdk package: http://osdir.com/ml/general/2010-11/msg38744.html Can anyone tell me the reason for all these fonts dependencies?

[perl-Net-Patricia] Re-release of 1.18_81 as 1.19.

2010-11-26 Thread Philip Prindeville
commit 9c9fdbe2f0b449443fc08169834e59d9db0f4fae Author: Philip Prindeville Date: Fri Nov 26 13:55:37 2010 -0700 Re-release of 1.18_81 as 1.19. .gitignore |1 + perl-Net-Patricia.spec |5 - sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deleti

File Net-Patricia-1.19.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by philipp

2010-11-26 Thread Philip Prindeville
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Net-Patricia: fe19e3ab96bdefc1184288067490290f Net-Patricia-1.19.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

[Bug 657153] Circular Dependency between perl-Readonly and perl-Readonly-XS

2010-11-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=657153 --- Comment #5 from Paul Howarth 2010-11-26 15:40:58 EST --- OK. I trust you got the modules installed OK via the repository whe

[Bug 657153] Circular Dependency between perl-Readonly and perl-Readonly-XS

2010-11-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=657153 --- Comment #4 from Andrew McNaughton 2010-11-26 14:53:10 EST --- I'm adding another module to a company's in-house repository

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-26 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Miloslav =?UTF-8?Q?Trma=C4=8D?= writes: > [...] If the system integrates everything into one process, the > only remaining troubleshooting mechanisms are integrated logging > [...], debugger [...] and systemtap (only a little better than a > debugger, and not available for most programs). To c

Re: libtool & dependency_libs in *.la files

2010-11-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Even better, fixing libtool revealed some bugs (missing -llibs). Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-top is 'top' for virtual machines. Tiny program with many powerful monitoring features, net stats, disk stats, logging, etc. http://et.re

libtool & dependency_libs in *.la files

2010-11-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
[Apologies if this has been covered before, but I cannot find anything in the archives] When building a package I noticed that binaries in the package were still getting unnecessary DT_NEEDED entries. Example: binary ---> depends only on libfoo.so |

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-26 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/11/26 Tomasz Torcz : > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 03:42:33PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> Hi, >> >> How to start things that really are not demons? >> >> Amtu seemed to be a simple service to convert >> >> [Unit] >> Description=Abstract Machine Tests >> After=syslog.target >> >> [Service] >

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-26 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 03:42:33PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > How to start things that really are not demons? > > Amtu seemed to be a simple service to convert > > [Unit] > Description=Abstract Machine Tests > After=syslog.target > > [Service] > EnvironmentFile=/etc/sysconfig/amt

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-26 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, How to start things that really are not demons? Amtu seemed to be a simple service to convert [Unit] Description=Abstract Machine Tests After=syslog.target [Service] EnvironmentFile=/etc/sysconfig/amtu ExecStart=/usr/sbin/amtu $EXTRAOPTIONS [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target sudo system

orphaning licq

2010-11-26 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
I'm no longer interested in this package, so I'm going to orphan in it. IMHO there is not much users anyway, so how about removing it entirely? Jirka -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: x86_64 rawhide: No CPU frequency scaling anymore?

2010-11-26 Thread Horst H. von Brand
Petr Sabata wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:53:21AM -0300, Horst H. von Brand wrote: > > After yesterday's updates, on login to Gnome a error message shows up > > saying that "CPU Frequency scaling is unsupported", and claims either > > misconfiguration or just isn't supported. It used to word

Re: New gtk-vnc slower?

2010-11-26 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 22:05 -0700, Jerry James wrote: > Is anybody else seeing this? Is there any other component besides > gtk-vnc that I should examine as a possible source of the slowdown? I'm seeing this too. Downgrading to gtk-vnc-0.4.1-6.fc14.1 fixes it here. I've filed a bug report about

rawhide report: 20101126 changes

2010-11-26 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Nov 26 08:15:03 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0()(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0(VER_1)(64bit) bognor-regis-0.6.11-1

Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.9 alpha

2010-11-26 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2010/11/26 Panu Matilainen : > the new, pluggable and enhanced dependency extration system. That's really awesome! -- With best regards, Peter Lemenkov. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Looking for testers: RPM 4.9 alpha

2010-11-26 Thread Panu Matilainen
It's that time of year again, although there seems to be an off-by-one bug in the calendar system causing some inconsistency in the timing wrt last year :P http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2009-November/042339.html Anyway, before going to beta and starting the inevitable Fedora Fe

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-26 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
26.11.2010 11:38, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 11/25/2010 11:24 PM, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: > >> Furthermore, step to reproduce also is very important, and may be we >> should enforce users fill it? > This doesn't seem a clever idea to me, because at least for me, many > abrt alerts

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-11-26 Thread Olaf Kirch
On Thursday 25 November 2010 21:29:30 Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 05:24:37PM +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: > > You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't we have > > NetworkManager, connman, netcf, and a few more? > > Indeed ... You don't explain how it's better

Re: libtool mismatch while building

2010-11-26 Thread Andreas Schwab
Ankur Sinha writes: >> ./configure: line 11660: XORG_MANPAGE_SECTIONS: command not found >> ./configure: line 11661: XORG_RELEASE_VERSION: command not found Report that upstream. >> libtool: Version mismatch error. This is libtool 2.2.6 Debian-2.2.6a-4, but >> the >> libtool: definition of th

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/25/2010 11:24 PM, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: > Furthermore, step to reproduce also is very important, and may be we > should enforce users fill it? This doesn't seem a clever idea to me, because at least for me, many abrt alerts originate from breakdowns without any obvious

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-26 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 23:11 -0500, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 11/25/2010 11:01 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: > >> Well, I actually believe we should design an OS here, not just a set of > >> independent tools. And that means I think closer integration is g

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-26 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 03:05 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fri, 26.11.10 02:07, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: > > > Lennart Poettering píše v Pá 26. 11. 2010 v 01:27 +0100: > > > On Thu, 25.11.10 17:33, Tomas Mraz (tm...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > And also, cron does a couple of real

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-26 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 02:07 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > Lennart Poettering píše v Pá 26. 11. 2010 v 01:27 +0100: > > On Thu, 25.11.10 17:33, Tomas Mraz (tm...@redhat.com) wrote: > > And also, cron does a couple of really nasty things. For example it > > wakes up in regular intervals to check if