Le Lun 9 mai 2011 08:32, Michał Piotrowski a écrit :
> It seems to me that this is related to that at the time of starting
> the network is not available. IIRC there was a problem with
> NetworkManager and it's systemd service, but it was fixed AFAIK. There
> is no problem with other services. A
2011/5/9 Nicolas Mailhot :
>
>
> Le Lun 9 mai 2011 08:32, Michał Piotrowski a écrit :
>
>> It seems to me that this is related to that at the time of starting
>> the network is not available. IIRC there was a problem with
>> NetworkManager and it's systemd service, but it was fixed AFAIK. There
>>
W dniu 9 maja 2011 09:51 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
napisał:
> 2011/5/9 Nicolas Mailhot :
>>
>>
>> Le Lun 9 mai 2011 08:32, Michał Piotrowski a écrit :
>>
>>> It seems to me that this is related to that at the time of starting
>>> the network is not available. IIRC there was a problem with
>>> N
Compose started at Mon May 9 08:15:02 UTC 2011
Broken deps for x86_64
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beldi-0.9.25-3.fc15.x8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=698237
and it's been this way for a while:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/147699
which just says
Rawhide's X is going to be like that for a while. We have ABI version
checks in place, but they only operate off the number
On 09/05/11 13:49, Matthew Miller wrote:
To answer the subject,
for testing it is usefull.
For deploying satellites, not so much.
I have two rawhide vms' running
But I find with rawhide.
Keep rpm copies local with yum*local.
for rawhide I keep 12 copes of all installed rpms.
yum downgrade xor
W dniu 9 maja 2011 09:54 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
napisał:
> W dniu 9 maja 2011 09:51 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
> napisał:
>> 2011/5/9 Nicolas Mailhot :
>>>
>>>
>>> Le Lun 9 mai 2011 08:32, Michał Piotrowski a écrit :
>>>
It seems to me that this is related to that at the time of star
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes:
> Ok, I know what is happening. I looked at the init script and I
> realized that it doesn't have any LSB header info about boot process
> order.
No, it's assuming that the chkconfig numbering takes care of that.
Are you saying that systemd no longer h
2011/5/9 Tom Lane :
> =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes:
>> Ok, I know what is happening. I looked at the init script and I
>> realized that it doesn't have any LSB header info about boot process
>> order.
>
> No, it's assuming that the chkconfig numbering takes care of that.
Do you mea
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 11:26:50AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes:
> > Ok, I know what is happening. I looked at the init script and I
> > realized that it doesn't have any LSB header info about boot process
> > order.
>
> No, it's assuming that the chkconfig
W dniu 9 maja 2011 17:34 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
napisał:
> 2011/5/9 Tom Lane :
>> =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes:
>>> Ok, I know what is happening. I looked at the init script and I
>>> realized that it doesn't have any LSB header info about boot process
>>> order.
>>
>> No, it
On 05/09/2011 05:02 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> Ok, I know what is happening. I looked at the init script and I
> realized that it doesn't have any LSB header info about boot process
> order. I also looked at other services and here are some of them that
> needs fixing:
> - memcached - (I create
commit 3279e4952de0582d2c35b9eba7a3cf909f207043
Author: Iain Arnell
Date: Mon May 9 18:19:12 2011 +0200
excludearch ppc64 because it's missing perl(File::pushd)
perl-Devel-PatchPerl.spec |7 ++-
1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
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diff --git a/perl-Devel-PatchPerl
2011/5/9 Tomasz Torcz :
> On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 11:26:50AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes:
>> > Ok, I know what is happening. I looked at the init script and I
>> > realized that it doesn't have any LSB header info about boot process
>> > order.
>>
>> No, i
W dniu 9 maja 2011 18:10 użytkownik Michal Schmidt
napisał:
> On 05/09/2011 05:02 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>> Ok, I know what is happening. I looked at the init script and I
>> realized that it doesn't have any LSB header info about boot process
>> order. I also looked at other services and he
On 05/09/2011 10:10 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
> On 05/09/2011 05:02 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>> Ok, I know what is happening. I looked at the init script and I
>> realized that it doesn't have any LSB header info about boot process
>> order. I also looked at other services and here are some of
W dniu 9 maja 2011 19:21 użytkownik Orion Poplawski
napisał:
> On 05/09/2011 10:10 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
>> On 05/09/2011 05:02 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>>> Ok, I know what is happening. I looked at the init script and I
>>> realized that it doesn't have any LSB header info about boot proc
Am 09.05.2011 19:09, schrieb Michał Piotrowski:
> W dniu 9 maja 2011 18:10 użytkownik Michal Schmidt
> napisał:
>> On 05/09/2011 05:02 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>>> Ok, I know what is happening. I looked at the init script and I
>>> realized that it doesn't have any LSB header info about boot
W dniu 9 maja 2011 19:36 użytkownik Reindl Harald
napisał:
> i wonder that mysqld should need network in every case since most setups out
> there using
> only sockets for mysql-connections and it is a valid use-case having mysql
> on machines
> without any network
Good question - indeed, so i
Reindl Harald writes:
> Am 09.05.2011 19:09, schrieb Micha³ Piotrowski:
>> W dniu 9 maja 2011 18:10 u¿ytkownik Michal Schmidt
>> napisa³:
>>> Are you sure that none of these services can deal with the network
>>> connection coming up later?
>> I don't know. It appears that MySQL can't deal with
2011/5/9 Tom Lane :
> Reindl Harald writes:
>> Am 09.05.2011 19:09, schrieb Michał Piotrowski:
>>> W dniu 9 maja 2011 18:10 użytkownik Michal Schmidt
>>> napisał:
Are you sure that none of these services can deal with the network
connection coming up later?
>
>>> I don't know. It appear
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes:
> 2011/5/9 Tom Lane :
>> I'd be interested to know whether the OP was using a vanilla my.cnf or
>> something custom, and exactly what failure mode he saw.
> In my case
> [mysqld]
> datadir=/home/data/mysql
> socket=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
> user=mys
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On Sat, 2011-05-07 at 09:48 -0700, Kevin Higgins wrote:
> >From what I can figure out it looks like lorax-0.4.4-1.fc15 uses and
> needs more memory
> I can run Fedora 15 in full shell on our slowest 1.5 Ghz laptop with
> 256mb memory and it runs faster
> than f14, I do an install with 512MB than ta
On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 22:15 +0200, Matthias Runge wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> we all know, the final change freeze arrives tomorrow, May 9th.
>
> I would like to ask you, if you could provide some (positive) karma for
> syslog-ng. It is the latest stable version and I'd like to pull it into
> F15 bef
On Mon, 09.05.11 18:58, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >> Yes, mysql and postgresql are both certainly broken by this. Please
> >> send the info, I'll take care of those two.
> >
> > I'll create bug reports and send proposed patches later.
> >
>
> Patch for MySQL
> https://bugzil
2011/5/9 Lennart Poettering :
> On Mon, 09.05.11 18:58, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> >> Yes, mysql and postgresql are both certainly broken by this. Please
>> >> send the info, I'll take care of those two.
>> >
>> > I'll create bug reports and send proposed patches later.
>> >
Lennart Poettering writes:
> So, instead of making mysql/postgres start up slower for everybody, i'd
> rather see this solution:
> a) people who manually change the IP address fo mysql to bind on
> specific ip addresses, manually also enable
> NetworkManager-wait-online.service.
> or:
> b) the
On Mon, 09.05.11 22:46, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> 2011/5/9 Lennart Poettering :
> > On Mon, 09.05.11 18:58, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >
> >> >> Yes, mysql and postgresql are both certainly broken by this. Please
> >> >> send the info, I'll take care of
On Mon, 09.05.11 17:04, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> Lennart Poettering writes:
> > So, instead of making mysql/postgres start up slower for everybody, i'd
> > rather see this solution:
>
> > a) people who manually change the IP address fo mysql to bind on
> > specific ip addresses, ma
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=703304
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=497928&action=edit
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2011/5/9 Lennart Poettering :
> On Mon, 09.05.11 22:46, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>>
>> 2011/5/9 Lennart Poettering :
>> > On Mon, 09.05.11 18:58, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> Yes, mysql and postgresql are both certainly broken by this. Please
>>
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 17:04 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > a) people who manually change the IP address fo mysql to bind on
> > specific ip addresses, manually also enable
> > NetworkManager-wait-online.service.
>
> > or:
>
> > b) the servers are fixed to listen to netlink.
>
> > or:
>
> > c) They
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> You could have them wait for the network to be available simply by
> setting them to depend on NetworkManager-wait-online.service: but that's
> not a very good solution to anyone's problem. It's far better for them
> to be able to start up
On Mon, 09.05.11 23:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> 2011/5/9 Lennart Poettering :
> > On Mon, 09.05.11 22:46, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> 2011/5/9 Lennart Poettering :
> >> > On Mon, 09.05.11 18:58, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
2011/5/9 Miloslav Trmač :
> Is the tradeoff really "correctness vs. saving a few seconds when
> booting a server"?
You know that's not what has been said and it's not really fair of
you. You want a server to fail on network failure; fine. Why don't you
just say that instead of characterizing it as
2011/5/10 Lennart Poettering :
> On Mon, 09.05.11 23:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
>> No, only for /run/user/ - because there is a simple workaround that
>> can be used on affected systems if the administrator considers his
>> system as vulnerable for malicious users.
>
> Again,
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Jason D. Clinton
wrote:
> 2011/5/9 Miloslav Trmač :
>> Is the tradeoff really "correctness vs. saving a few seconds when
>> booting a server"?
>
> You know that's not what has been said and it's not really fair of
> you.
That was a question...
> You want a serve
On Tue, 10.05.11 00:23, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
> I can't see that. If I configure a server to listen on 192.168.1.1,
> and my IP address changes to 192.168.1.2 for whatever reason, how will
> I ever be notified that the configuration is incorrect? By a log entry
> in syslog?
If a
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On Tue, 10.05.11 00:57, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> 2011/5/10 Lennart Poettering :
> > On Mon, 09.05.11 23:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >> No, only for /run/user/ - because there is a simple workaround that
> >> can be used on affected systems if the adm
On Tue, 10.05.11 01:04, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
>
> ... rereading the thread, the thing I have missed is that we don't
> want to block startup in configurations where the server binds to
> 127.0.0.1 because the system might never come online. So there appears
> to be no universally c
2011/5/9 Michał Piotrowski
>
> 2011/5/10 Lennart Poettering :
> > On Mon, 09.05.11 23:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >> No, only for /run/user/ - because there is a simple workaround that
> >> can be used on affected systems if the administrator considers his
> >> system as vul
2011/5/10 Stephen John Smoogen :
> Let's make this simple:
>
> FAQ: How can I make my system unusable? How can I create a denial of service?
>
> Answer: On default systems there are multiple ways to do this, please
> choose one or more of the following:
That's all true, on the other hand there are
On Tue, 10.05.11 01:31, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
>
> 2011/5/10 Stephen John Smoogen :
> > Let's make this simple:
> >
> > FAQ: How can I make my system unusable? How can I create a denial of
> > service?
> >
> > Answer: On default systems there are multiple ways to do this, please
>
On 05/09/2011 08:38 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> a) people who manually change the IP address fo mysql to bind on
> specific ip addresses, manually also enable
> NetworkManager-wait-online.service.
This proposal makes the assumption and depends on users actually using
NetworkManager as their n
Sorry... Did I miss something?
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On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Tue, 10.05.11 01:31, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
>
>>
>> 2011/5/10 Stephen John Smoogen :
>> > Let's make this simple:
>> >
>> > FAQ: How can I make my system unusable? How can I create a denial of
>> > service?
>> >
>> > A
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 08:49:28AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=698237
>
> and it's been this way for a while:
>
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/147699
>
> which just says
>
> Rawhide's X is going to be like that for a w
2011/5/9 Miloslav Trmač :
> 2011/5/10 Stephen John Smoogen :
>> Let's make this simple:
>>
>> FAQ: How can I make my system unusable? How can I create a denial of service?
>>
>> Answer: On default systems there are multiple ways to do this, please
>> choose one or more of the following:
>
> That's
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 21:14 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> Sorry... Did I miss something?
I'd imagine someone signed an interlinux address up to the list, and
that was an automated response.
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On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 11:18 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> I'm about to rebuild and update the drivers, but my upstream link is
> currently using pigeons, so it will take me a while.
I tried that, but I couldn't stuff the squawking things into the HDMI
port...
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10.05.2011, 05:33, "Adam Williamson" :
> this is already known and discussed at:
768 megs for an installer? Sweet Georgia Brown of Kingston town, I think 512 is
pretty much.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680542
Not specifically related, just asks for a correct message error.
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On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:18:54AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> This is my fault, sorry. I updated the server but missed out on rebuilding
> the drivers. And with one thing leading to another, Easter came, I forgot
> about it and the above bug didn't show up on my radar until ajax pinged me
> thi
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 11:11 +0900, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> 10.05.2011, 05:33, "Adam Williamson" :
> > this is already known and discussed at:
>
> 768 megs for an installer? Sweet Georgia Brown of Kingston town, I think 512
> is pretty much.
The links explain the situation.
> > https://bugzilla
W dniu 10 maja 2011 01:23 użytkownik Stephen John Smoogen
napisał:
> 2011/5/9 Michał Piotrowski
>>
>> 2011/5/10 Lennart Poettering :
>> > On Mon, 09.05.11 23:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
>> >> No, only for /run/user/ - because there is a simple workaround that
>> >> can be use
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