Re: Poll: Does ACPI lid state work on your Linux laptop?

2011-07-14 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 07/13/2011 07:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 11:35 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: >> On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 16:57 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: >> >>> Maybe it it is an idea to build a whitelist for machines which do >>> have working ACPI lid support? I realize maintaining s

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread JB
Josef Bacik toxicpanda.com> writes: > ... > We aren't aiming for "hopefully stable", we're aiming for actually stable > and reasonably safe. If we don't meet certain basic requirements no > switch will be made and everything will carry on as normal. > > I'm not trying to shove Btrfs down peopl

Re: Poll: Does ACPI lid state work on your Linux laptop?

2011-07-14 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 09:11:23AM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 07/13/2011 07:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 11:35 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > >> On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 16:57 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > >> > >>> Maybe it it is an idea to build a whitelist for

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v2] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-14 Thread Fabian Deutsch
> Orphan link-grammar I am taking this one. - fabiand -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v2] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-14 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
On 10:51:05 Thursday 14 July 2011 Fabian Deutsch wrote: > > Orphan link-grammar > > I am taking this one. > > - fabiand Can we get a v3 of the packages to be retired? There seem to be enough changes in the list already. Regards, Alexander Kurtakov -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproj

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/14/2011 08:28 AM, JB wrote: > Josef Bacik toxicpanda.com> writes: > >> ... >> We aren't aiming for "hopefully stable", we're aiming for actually stable >> and reasonably safe. If we don't meet certain basic requirements no >> switch will be made and everything will carry on as normal. >> >

Retired packages: mod_auth_pgsql, mod_auth_mysql, mod_authz_ldap

2011-07-14 Thread Joe Orton
I'm retiring these packages in devel, because: a) their functionality is duplicated by modules shipped with httpd (mod_authn_dbd, mod_authnz_ldap) b) their upstreams are no longer active Regards, Joe -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/li

Re: Poll: Does ACPI lid state work on your Linux laptop?

2011-07-14 Thread Camilo Mesias
What are the typical faults, and is it impossible to work around them, maybe autodetecting if they are working or not? For a laptop without an external display I would expect it to suspend when the lid is closed, as that is what I usually configure. However, it's not hard to imagine a feature of t

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread JB
Ric Wheeler redhat.com> writes: > ... > Given that my family is from the hills of eastern > Kentucky, I also find the "hill billie" comment off putting. > ... Ric, no offense ... injecting Kentucky hills was misguided ... I happened to visit the state few times and was impressed with how nice

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:50 AM, JB wrote: > I have difficulty swallowing the fact that there are so many Red Hat, Oracle, > and other famous technology names involved (officially or dev's private > contributions) in development of BTRFS, and at the same time they practice > such loosely approach

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/14/2011 09:50 AM, JB wrote: > Ric Wheeler redhat.com> writes: > >> ... > >> Given that my family is from the hills of eastern >> Kentucky, I also find the "hill billie" comment off putting. >> ... > Ric, no offense ... injecting Kentucky hills was misguided ... I happened to > visit the sta

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 14.7.2011 09:28, JB napsal(a): > The original b-tree algorithm was a result of an academic study, formulation, > and empirical testing, and was subjected to scientific scrutiny. Ehm, I don't claim to have any deep knowledge on the matter, but I have here B-trees explained in Wirth (1975), and

Re: bootstrap macro

2011-07-14 Thread Paul Howarth
On 07/14/2011 07:42 AM, Iain Arnell wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Marcela Maslanova > wrote: >> Hello list, >> you might notice that rebuild stopped for a while. I run out of packages, >> which had "normal" dependencies. Now I have a list of cyclic dependencies, >> which are depende

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread JB
Martin Langhoff gmail.com> writes: > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:50 AM, JB gmail.com> wrote: > > I have difficulty swallowing the fact that there are so many Red Hat, > > Oracle, > > and other famous technology names involved (officially or dev's private > > contributions) in development of BT

Re: Fwd: rpm packaging: package configuration

2011-07-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:25:04PM -0500, Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) wrote: > Calling it a misfeature is a mistake. Just because you don't want to use it > doesn't mean it shouldn't be there. I'm perfectly capable of configuring priorities and frontends in dpkg, thanks for your concerns. However it's n

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Good timing! I have a related BTRFS / Fedora 16 question. I have used the "btrfs" Anaconda option, and I get btrfs appearing as a choice in the menus. However if I just change the root filesystem to btrfs, then I would get: /boot /dev/sda2 PV VG

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread JB
Matej Cepl redhat.com> writes: > > Dne 14.7.2011 09:28, JB napsal(a): > > The original b-tree algorithm was a result of an academic study, > > formulation, > > and empirical testing, and was subjected to scientific scrutiny. > > Ehm, I don't claim to have any deep knowledge on the matter, but

[perl-Net-SSLeay] Created tag perl-Net-SSLeay-1.36-6.fc16

2011-07-14 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Net-SSLeay-1.36-6.fc16' was created pointing to: 7c63ac1... Trivial tidy up -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread JB
Ric Wheeler redhat.com> writes: > ... > I think that it would be really rare to see pristine, academic algorithms > implemented exactly as a non-coding mathematician designed them in code :) > ... Well, not convinced ... :-) The algorithm has to be taken holisticly - it has been designed, tes

SELinux oddity

2011-07-14 Thread Andrew Haley
A strange alert: The process /usr/bin/tee attempted to mount on /proc/bus/usb. This is F14, fully updated. Any ideas what this might be? Thanks, Andrew. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: New feature for Fedora 16: new mkdumprd

2011-07-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Américo Wang wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 03:50:07PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >>> > > Would any of you kindly help to review my proposed feature >>> > > for Fedora 16? >>> > > >>> > > https://fedorapro

[Bug 721336] New: perl-Config-Properties-1.72 is available

2011-07-14 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-Config-Properties-1.72 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721336 Summary: perl-Config-Properties-1.72 is available Product

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/14/2011 11:08 AM, JB wrote: > Ric Wheeler redhat.com> writes: > >> ... >> I think that it would be really rare to see pristine, academic algorithms >> implemented exactly as a non-coding mathematician designed them in code :) >> ... > Well, not convinced ... :-) > > The algorithm has to be

File PAR-Packer-1.010.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2011-07-14 Thread Petr Sabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-PAR-Packer: ee57def445e3d917d48cbf3a52813b54 PAR-Packer-1.010.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailma

[perl-PAR-Packer] 1.010 bump

2011-07-14 Thread Petr Sabata
commit 2cc03ab70c74702251f5b605618dfbee5e19321d Author: Petr Sabata Date: Thu Jul 14 13:07:55 2011 +0200 1.010 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-PAR-Packer.spec |9 +++-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.giti

Looking for review of synce-connector

2011-07-14 Thread Andreas Bierfert
Hallo everyone, I am looking for someone to review synce-connector[1]. Synce-connector is a connection framework and dccm-implementation which integrates with udev. It effectively replaces all previous implementations from the synce project (synce-serial, vdccm, odccm, synce-hal). Getting synce-co

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/14/2011 01:07 AM, Josef Bacik wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 13.07.2011 23:54, schrieb Michael Cronenworth: >>> Farkas Levente wrote: >>> That's not the case at all, I'm not sure where you are getting that. >>> If we don't have a released offline

Broken dependencies: perl-SDL

2011-07-14 Thread buildsys
perl-SDL has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-SDL-2.2.6-1.fc16.x86_64 requires libSDL_gfx.so.0()(64bit) On i386: perl-SDL-2.2.6-1.fc16.i686 requires libSDL_gfx.so.0 Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraprojec

Re: New feature for Fedora 16: new mkdumprd

2011-07-14 Thread Américo Wang
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Américo Wang > wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 03:50:07PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > Would any of you kindly help to review my proposed feat

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Genes MailLists
I think RAID-5 support would be reasonably important to have too ... I dont think we want to have raid on top of btrfs ... right? Ric - what is the current status of RAID-5 ? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: SELinux oddity

2011-07-14 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/2011 06:11 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > A strange alert: > > The process /usr/bin/tee attempted to mount on /proc/bus/usb. > > This is F14, fully updated. > > Any ideas what this might be? > > Thanks, Andrew. Please attach the actual AVC mess

Re: New feature for Fedora 16: new mkdumprd

2011-07-14 Thread Vivek Goyal
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 06:35:05AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Américo Wang > wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 03:50:07PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > >>> > > Would any of you kindly help to review my pr

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Josef Bacik
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Good timing!  I have a related BTRFS / Fedora 16 question. > > I have used the "btrfs" Anaconda option, and I get btrfs appearing as > a choice in the menus.  However if I just change the root filesystem > to btrfs, then I would get: > >

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Josef Bacik
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:08 AM, JB wrote: > Ric Wheeler redhat.com> writes: > >> ... >> I think that it would be really rare to see pristine, academic algorithms >> implemented exactly as a non-coding mathematician designed them in code :) >> ... > > Well, not convinced ... :-) > > The algorithm

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:22:17AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Is this how F16 will be set up? The Feature page[1] suggests that LVM > will be turned off by default, in which case it should look more like: That would involve changes to Anaconda, and as far as I know there's nobody curren

Re: New feature for Fedora 16: new mkdumprd

2011-07-14 Thread Robyn Bergeron
On 07/14/2011 03:35 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Américo Wang > wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 03:50:07PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >> Would any of you kindly help to review my proposed feature >> f

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Josef Bacik
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > > >  I think RAID-5 support would be reasonably important to have too ... I > dont think we want to have raid on top of btrfs ... right? > >  Ric - what is the current status of RAID-5 ? This requires some other big changes that are disk

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 09:13:56AM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote: > Well it should be more like > > /boot/dev/sda1 > swap/dev/sda2 > btrfs Maybe I don't understand this. Is btrfs on /dev/sda3, or are the swap and root filesystems somehow combined on /dev/sda2? And if the latter, how does one

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/14/2011 03:03 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 09:13:56AM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote: >> Well it should be more like >> >> /boot/dev/sda1 >> swap/dev/sda2 >> btrfs > Maybe I don't understand this. Is btrfs on /dev/sda3, or are the swap > and root filesystems some

Re: New feature for Fedora 16: new mkdumprd

2011-07-14 Thread Américo Wang
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > > I'll follow up to the devel-list on a separate mail that will hopefully > catch a few more eyeballs, but essentially I'm going to propose to FESCo > that this feature, along with all of the other features submitted at the > last moment, be

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 03:06:33PM +0100, Ric Wheeler wrote: > On 07/14/2011 03:03 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 09:13:56AM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote: > >>Well it should be more like > >> > >>/boot/dev/sda1 > >>swap/dev/sda2 > >>btrfs > >Maybe I don't understand th

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/14/2011 02:54 PM, Josef Bacik wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> >> >> I think RAID-5 support would be reasonably important to have too ... I >> dont think we want to have raid on top of btrfs ... right? >> >> Ric - what is the current status of RAID-5 ?

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.07.2011 03:57, schrieb Eric Sandeen: >> bleeeding edge / modern technology is not the same as dangerous defaults >> unstable / unfinsihed packages should never be default in GA nor replace >> existing and over a long time well working things - never! > > You might have said the same thing

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/14/2011 10:17 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote: > On 07/14/2011 02:54 PM, Josef Bacik wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >>> >>> >>> I think RAID-5 support would be reasonably important to have too ... I >>> dont think we want to have raid on top of btrfs ... right? >>>

Re: Status of startup-notifications

2011-07-14 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 07:30 +0200, Johannes Lips wrote: > I recently found that startup-notification is quite old in fedora and > filed a bug to update to the recent upstream version. [1] > So far I didn't get any feedback and would like to ask if someone of > those [2] who also have commit on t

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Josef Bacik
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 07/14/2011 10:17 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote: >> On 07/14/2011 02:54 PM, Josef Bacik wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Genes MailLists  wrote:   I think RAID-5 support would be reasonably important to have too ... I >

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Josef Bacik
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 14.07.2011 03:57, schrieb Eric Sandeen: >>> bleeeding edge / modern technology is not the same as dangerous defaults >>> unstable / unfinsihed packages should never be default in GA nor replace >>> existing and over a long time well w

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 7/13/11 9:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 14.07.2011 03:57, schrieb Eric Sandeen: >>> bleeeding edge / modern technology is not the same as dangerous defaults >>> unstable / unfinsihed packages should never be default in GA nor replace >>> existing and over a long time well working things

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread JB
Josef Bacik toxicpanda.com> writes: > ... > I've already said > that if it's not in good shape by Alpha the switch won't even be made, > so quit your bitching. > > Josef Josef, would it be possible, BEFORE (in case that) you decide to switch on before Alpha, to present some test suite results

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 7/14/11 10:21 AM, JB wrote: > Josef Bacik toxicpanda.com> writes: > >> ... >> I've already said >> that if it's not in good shape by Alpha the switch won't even be made, >> so quit your bitching. >> >> Josef > > Josef, > would it be possible, BEFORE (in case that) you decide to switch on bef

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Josef Bacik
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM, JB wrote: > Josef Bacik toxicpanda.com> writes: > >> ... >> I've already said >> that if it's not in good shape by Alpha the switch won't even be made, >> so quit your bitching. >> >> Josef > > Josef, > would it be possible, BEFORE (in case that) you decide to sw

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/14/2011 10:59 AM, Josef Bacik wrote: >> >> Another (Q) - once the format changes, will there be tools to change >> the online format of existing filesystems - or will we need to delete >> and start fresh ? >> > > All format changes happen automatically (usually with a mount option > so as

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/14/2011 11:12 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: > Something tells me if btrfs had been called "ext5" people would > just nod their heads and move on. ;) Heh ... like this ... Its not too late is it :-) How about ext5-btrfs - and high level user space tools can shorten it to ext5 :-) -- devel ma

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:10 AM, JB wrote: > Well, then you have to read the thread more carefully before you bark back - > right in the first OP's post you have references, e.g. > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/6/18/144 Heh - now that you provide links it's better... anyway, that's a completely hi

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread JB
Josef Bacik toxicpanda.com> writes: > ... > We've reached the point where we really need wider user > testing, because no amount of testing we do will ever be able to match > up to the crazy things users do. Please understand - convincing people (technical and non-technical) to install a regular

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 07/14/2011 05:26 PM, JB wrote: > Now just a loud thinking ... > Have you thought about first preparing a CD (even a live CD) with BTRFS and > some extra preinstalled software like VirtualBox etc just for testing ? What, you mean like the live and non-live Fedora ISOs that have had btrfs support

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread JB
Bryn M. Reeves redhat.com> writes: > > On 07/14/2011 05:26 PM, JB wrote: > > Now just a loud thinking ... > > Have you thought about first preparing a CD (even a live CD) with BTRFS and > > some extra preinstalled software like VirtualBox etc just for testing ? > > What, you mean like the live

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 07/14/2011 05:48 PM, JB wrote: > Good. Perhaps a weekly snapshot CD, with the latest BTRFS and related utils, > so that the testing would be more up-to-date and meaningful. > JB http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/ Regards, Bryn. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread John Dulaney
 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:  >  >  > Am 14.07.2011 03:57, schrieb Eric Sandeen:  >>> bleeeding edge / modern technology is not the same as dangerous defaults  >>> unstable / unfinsihed packages should never be default in GA nor replace  >>> existing and over a long time

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread JB
Bryn M. Reeves redhat.com> writes: > > On 07/14/2011 05:48 PM, JB wrote: > > Good. Perhaps a weekly snapshot CD, with the latest BTRFS and related utils, > > so that the testing would be more up-to-date and meaningful. > > JB > > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/ > > Regar

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 07/14/2011 12:31 PM, JB wrote: > OK. > > Post every week on user, testers, and devel lists: > - BTRFS testing reminder > - BTRFS info (short notes; entries; pointers to any info, info/man pages) > - test instructions > - a link where to obtain latest Fedora snapshot/nightly live composes with >

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread JB
Michael Cronenworth cchtml.com> writes: > ... > If you're that concerned about the quality of Fedora 16 then I would > suggest you join the test list, become a proventester, and attend QA > meetings. > > (Ranting on this list and making demands won't make it happen.)I am not > ranting I am n

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:31:44 + (UTC) JB wrote: > Bryn M. Reeves redhat.com> writes: > > > > > On 07/14/2011 05:48 PM, JB wrote: > > > Good. Perhaps a weekly snapshot CD, with the latest BTRFS and > > > related utils, so that the testing would be more up-to-date and > > > meaningful. JB > >

Re: Proposal: retire bittorrent

2011-07-14 Thread seth vidal
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 22:23 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:55 PM, seth vidal wrote: > > > > Heck, I'd be willing to accept ANY bittorrent server that can be both > > tracker and primary seed and doesn't require a special apache module to > > do it. > > > > The biggest virt

Re: Proposal: retire bittorrent

2011-07-14 Thread seth vidal
On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 00:22 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 06/15/2011 09:55 PM, seth vidal wrote: > > Heck, I'd be willing to accept ANY bittorrent server that can be both > > tracker and primary seed and doesn't require a special apache module to > > do it. > > Late to the party with this

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread JB
Bernd Stramm gmail.com> writes: > ... > Would you help out with testing if given these specific instructions? > If not yourself, who would actually do this? > ... I am only suggesting a mini form of so called user testing (that's what it is called and practised in a software development corpor

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:09:53 + (UTC) JB wrote: > Bernd Stramm gmail.com> writes: > > > ... > > Would you help out with testing if given these specific > > instructions? If not yourself, who would actually do this? > > ... > > I am only suggesting a mini form of so called user testing (th

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread JB
Bernd Stramm gmail.com> writes: > ... > > Try it and see the results. Perhaps it will work > > But that is my point - you are not willing to do any part of this > yourself. You are only instructing others to do specific work. > I am not instructing anybody. I am suggesting things. I have em

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 01:06:45PM -0400, John Dulaney wrote: > >  On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >  > >  > >  > Am 14.07.2011 03:57, schrieb Eric Sandeen: >  >>> bleeeding edge / modern technology is not the same as dangerous defaults >  >>> unstable / unfinsihed packages

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v2] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-14 Thread Tom Callaway
On 07/12/2011 05:10 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Orphan: eet > ecore requires eet-devel = 1.4.0-2.fc15 > ecore-devel requires eet-devel = 1.4.0-2.fc15 > qedje requires libeet.so.1 > qedje requires eet-devel = 1.4.0-2.fc15 > qedje-devel requires eet-devel = 1.4.0-2.fc15 > qed

File HTML-Template-2.10.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by spot

2011-07-14 Thread Tom Callaway
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-HTML-Template: 49537aa239ab090698b9e1a0b0be7412 HTML-Template-2.10.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/m

[perl-HTML-Template] 2.10

2011-07-14 Thread Tom Callaway
commit 992ca89c736f2d627bcbde52588e4245e4a9516e Author: Tom "spot" Callaway Date: Thu Jul 14 15:13:10 2011 -0400 2.10 .gitignore|1 + perl-HTML-Template-manpages.patch | 86 +++-- perl-HTML-Template.spec | 15 +++---

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v2] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:05:16 -0400, TC (Tom) wrote: > > Orphan: xmms > > logjam requires xmms-devel = 1:1.2.11-12.20071117cvs.fc15 > > logjam-xmms requires xmms = 1:1.2.11-12.20071117cvs.fc15 > > logjam-xmms requires libxmms.so.1 > > purple-plugin_pack requires xmms-devel = 1:1.2.1

[Bug 721340] perl-HTML-Template-2.10 is available

2011-07-14 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721340 Tom "spot" Callaway changed: What|Removed |Added ---

[ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (v3)

2011-07-14 Thread Bill Nottingham
Each release, before branching, we block currently orphaned packages. It's that time again for Fedora 16. New this go-round is that we are also blocking packages that have failed to build since before Fedora 14. The following packages are currently orphaned, or fail to build. If you have a need f

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (v3)

2011-07-14 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 03:39:13PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: *snip* > Orphan userspace-rcu I'll take that one. --CJD -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (v3)

2011-07-14 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
2011/7/14 Bill Nottingham : > Each release, before branching, we block currently orphaned packages. > It's that time again for Fedora 16. > Orphan me-tv I've just took me-tv on pkgdb Nicolas (kwizart) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (v3)

2011-07-14 Thread Paul Flo Williams
Bill Nottingham wrote: > Each release, before branching, we block currently orphaned packages. > It's that time again for Fedora 16. > > Orphan jomolhari-fonts > Orphan kanjistrokeorders-fonts > Orphan tibetan-machine-uni-fonts Taken. EPEL branches for kanjistrokeorders-fonts are available. -- P

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 17:49 +, JB wrote: > I am just suggesting how the devs can reach their audience and communicate > with them for a mutual benefit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_grandmother_to_suck_eggs - ajax signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread JB
Adam Jackson redhat.com> writes: > > On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 17:49 +, JB wrote: > > > I am just suggesting how the devs can reach their audience and communicate > > with them for a mutual benefit. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_grandmother_to_suck_eggs > > - ajax > > Well, I w

mock hangs in "D" state.

2011-07-14 Thread Richard Shaw
Anyone else have this issue? Occasionally, but not frequently, mock will stall in the "D" state in ps. I try to let to continue but I waited for over an hour and it never made it out. Since you can't do anything with processes in the D state I was forced to reboot... Thanks, Richard -- devel mai

Re: mock hangs in "D" state.

2011-07-14 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 7/14/11 3:55 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > Anyone else have this issue? > > Occasionally, but not frequently, mock will stall in the "D" state in > ps. I try to let to continue but I waited for over an hour and it > never made it out. Since you can't do anything with processes in the D > state I wa

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (v3)

2011-07-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 03:39:13PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Orphan isic seeing as I took ip6sic which is similar, I'll take this too. Dave -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Review swap: python-hl7

2011-07-14 Thread Ankur Sinha
xml.4-0.1.20110714git97ddbe9.fc15.src.rpm /var/lib/mock/fedora-rawhide-i386/result/*.rpm ../SPECS/python-hl7.spec: W: invalid-url Source0: python-hl7-20110714.tar.gz python-hl7.src: W: invalid-url Source0: python-hl7-20110714.tar.gz python-hl7.src: W: invalid-url Source0: python-hl7-20110714.tar.gz 3 packages

Re: Review swap: python-hl7

2011-07-14 Thread Brendan Jones
t: > > [ankur@ankur SRPMS]$ rpmlint ../SPECS/python-hl7.spec > python-hl7-0.1.1_xml.4-0.1.20110714git97ddbe9.fc15.src.rpm > /var/lib/mock/fedora-rawhide-i386/result/*.rpm > ../SPECS/python-hl7.spec: W: invalid-url Source0: > python-hl7-20110714.tar.gz > python-hl7.src: W: invalid-url

FESCo: Feature process and release blocker process

2011-07-14 Thread Adam Williamson
As FESCo doesn't have its own mailing list, and this isn't a trac item exactly as I'm not really requesting any *action* on FESCo's part, I'm sending this to devel and test in the hopes it reaches all parties concerned. This relates mainly to the feature process and hence is of particular interest

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 16:48 +, JB wrote: > Bryn M. Reeves redhat.com> writes: > > > > > On 07/14/2011 05:26 PM, JB wrote: > > > Now just a loud thinking ... > > > Have you thought about first preparing a CD (even a live CD) with BTRFS > > > and > > > some extra preinstalled software like Vi

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 12:36 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 07/14/2011 12:31 PM, JB wrote: > > OK. > > > > Post every week on user, testers, and devel lists: > > - BTRFS testing reminder > > - BTRFS info (short notes; entries; pointers to any info, info/man pages) > > - test instructions > >

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (v3)

2011-07-14 Thread पराग़
Hi, On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Each release, before branching, we block currently orphaned packages. > It's that time again for Fedora 16. > > New this go-round is that we are also blocking packages that have > failed to build since before Fedora 14. > > The followi

Re: Status of startup-notifications

2011-07-14 Thread Johannes Lips
Hi, alright thanks for clarification. Then again I am wondering why there is still the fc13 release in the repos even if it was rebuilt for f15. Just curious. Johannes On 07/14/2011 04:38 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 07:30 +0200, Johannes Lips wrote: > >> I recently found that