Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 15:54 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: I think the discussion where to place this is moot anyway, as the spec has been written years ago and widely (though not universally) implemented, and we should just stick to it, since where it to place it is nothing more than bike

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: I think the right approach here is to prep a patch for the spec and make the dir official given that a) it probably makes sense to have a standardized dir like this, I can't really see who is the expected user of

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 10:01, seth vidal (skvi...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 15:54 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: I think the discussion where to place this is moot anyway, as the spec has been written years ago and widely (though not universally) implemented, and we

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 16:05, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: I think the right approach here is to prep a patch for the spec and make the dir official given that a) it probably makes sense to have a

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:54:09 +0200 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Wed, 27.07.11 10:30, Karel Zak (k...@redhat.com) wrote: Note that there are a number of 3rd party projects making use of ~/.config/bin afaik, including jhbuild which installs its executable to that

Re: merge into dist-f16

2011-07-27 Thread Petr Pisar
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 02:43:42PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: We will remove perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.*) from perl package soon which should affect following packages (require perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.*) in dist-f16) only:

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Wed, 27.07.11 16:05, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: I think the right approach here is to prep a patch for the spec and

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:13:11 +0200 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Wed, 27.07.11 16:05, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: I think the right approach here is to prep a patch for the

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 07:40, Genes MailLists (li...@sapience.com) wrote: On 07/27/2011 01:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: What specifically does systemd do that autofs does not do without it? I don't know if there is anything, but it's neat to get something like this 'free' with systemd,

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 04:24:06PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: IMHO the ~/.local/bin place is a mistake, and it's still not too late to stop making this mistake irreversible. Yeah. Every $PATH element has its runtime cost (execvp needs to search that path, at least for unsuccessful searches,

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Karel Zak
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 03:54:09PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 27.07.11 10:30, Karel Zak (k...@redhat.com) wrote: Note that there are a number of 3rd party projects making use of ~/.config/bin afaik, including jhbuild which installs its executable to that dir. It

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
One thing to watch out for is /var/empty. I have had to manually recreate /var/empty and /var/empty/sshd to get the server to work again. This might be related to the recent rpm issue, but I am not sure about that. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: XDG and default directories (Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH)

2011-07-27 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:43:09 +0200 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 12:26 +0200, Stijn Hoop a écrit : and even better is the fact that I can now put that area somewhere else than on our default stupidly-expensive backupped NFS

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/27/2011 12:20 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 27/07/11 10:47, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:02:14PM -0700, Josh Stone wrote: On 07/26/2011 09:49 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:45:11AM -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: In /etc/skel/.bash_profile

Perl 5.14 upgrade progress

2011-07-27 Thread Petr Pisar
Current status of Perl 5.14 upgrade Everyting is in Fedora 16, if you need to fix something, you need to go through bodhi. We cover 99.57 % Perl packages now. Following packages are still broken: perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools – built

[perl-Cache-FastMmap] update to 1.39

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 57f3206d70dc721625c44031684d35824a398f79 Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com Date: Sun Jul 24 08:10:19 2011 +0200 update to 1.39 .gitignore |1 + perl-Cache-FastMmap.spec | 20 +++- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 9

[pkgdb] perl-Business-CreditCard ownership changed

2011-07-27 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-Business-CreditCard in Fedora 16 is now owned by ppisar To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-Business-CreditCard -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[perl-Cache-FastMmap/f16] update to 1.39

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: 57f3206... update to 1.39 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

File Data-Serializer-0.59.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Data-Serializer: 54160ad0215eefd88a2b0a1cf76f6dc1 Data-Serializer-0.59.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Data-Serializer] update to 0.59

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
commit a04a83f464238756333e2c087452421c6b8bfdbb Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com Date: Wed Jul 27 17:34:27 2011 +0200 update to 0.59 .gitignore|1 + perl-Data-Serializer.spec |8 +--- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 4

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 08:14 -0430, Robert Marcano a écrit : appending helps a little, but if a security vulnerability allows a intruder to put binaries on ~/bin, I think it will not be difficult to overwrite .bash_profile (Unless something like SELinux is used to protect startup

[perl-Cache-FastMmap/f15] (2 commits) ...update to 1.39

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: 5a8fb59... Perl mass rebuild (*) 57f3206... update to 1.39 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Data-Serializer/f16] update to 0.59

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: a04a83f... update to 0.59 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Data-Serializer/f15] (2 commits) ...update to 0.59

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: 7cfacc0... Perl mass rebuild (*) a04a83f... update to 0.59 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Roman Rakus
Hi all, from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? RR -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

[perl-Data-Serializer/f14] (5 commits) ...update to 0.59

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: 1641a7a... update to 0.54 (*) d2f7301... update to 0.57 (*) b70997e... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass (*) 7cfacc0... Perl mass rebuild (*) a04a83f... update to 0.59 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 17:40 +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: Hi all, from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? If it helps ending this discussion I'm all for it. ~/.local/bin is not worth this amount of time, regardless whether it was a good idea to begin with or

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-27 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 09:33 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: One thing to watch out for is /var/empty. I have had to manually recreate /var/empty and /var/empty/sshd to get the server to work again. This might be related to the recent rpm issue, but I am not sure about that. Yes, it is related to

howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Neal Becker
Trying to help packaging dmtcp. There are 2 shared libs installed. They are stripped by the rpm install, and then fail when attempting to dlopen them (or 1 of them). 1. Is that normal behaviour? 2. How can I avoid it? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to help packaging dmtcp.  There are 2 shared libs installed.  They are stripped by the rpm install, and then fail when attempting to dlopen them (or 1 of them). 1. Is that normal behaviour? 2. How can I avoid

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 11:48 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: Trying to help packaging dmtcp. There are 2 shared libs installed. They are stripped by the rpm install, and then fail when attempting to dlopen them (or 1 of them). 1. Is that normal behaviour? No, the strip performed by the rpm

File Devel-Declare-0.006005.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2011-07-27 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Devel-Declare: 84878634e59ff94cab073ec89122ad00 Devel-Declare-0.006005.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/27/2011 12:19 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 27.07.11 17:40, Roman Rakus (rra...@redhat.com) wrote: Hi all, from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? Yes. I am for keeping it in, and have prepped a patch for XDG basedir to make it official.

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote: On 07/27/2011 12:19 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 27.07.11 17:40, Roman Rakus (rra...@redhat.com) wrote: Hi all, from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? Yes. I am for

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 05:40:39PM +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: Hi all, from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? +1 Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones New in Fedora 11: Fedora Windows cross-compiler. Compile

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 06:19:19PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 27.07.11 17:40, Roman Rakus (rra...@redhat.com) wrote: Hi all, from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? Yes. I am for keeping it in, and have prepped a patch for XDG basedir

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Neal Becker
Jerry James wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to help packaging dmtcp. There are 2 shared libs installed. They are stripped by the rpm install, and then fail when attempting to dlopen them (or 1 of them). Fail how? What's the error? 1.

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: 7. Verify that the only difference is replacing the shared libs installed via rpm vs. the same shared libs installed without rpm. So something that rpm does to the shared libs (in /usr/lib64/dmtcp) is breaking things.  

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com wrote: It isn't strip.  If I run strip on the version of libmtcp.so left in the build dir and copy it over /usr/lib64/dmtcp/libmtcp.so, then it also works.  But that version is different from the one installed by rpm.  Watch

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Neal Becker
Jerry James wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com wrote: It isn't strip. If I run strip on the version of libmtcp.so left in the build dir and copy it over /usr/lib64/dmtcp/libmtcp.so, then it also works. But that version is different from the one

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:19:08 -0700, JK (Jesse) wrote: On 7/27/11 2:03 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: There is a big difference between a package going backwards in its EVR and staying there and a package getting untagged because it breaks koji buildroot and with the plan to go forward in EVR

Review swaps

2011-07-27 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello, Would any one like to swap reviews :)? These two are *very very* simple packages that need to be reviewed. They're holding up xmedcon[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714327 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714326 [1]

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-27 Thread drago01
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:19:08 -0700, JK (Jesse) wrote: On 7/27/11 2:03 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: There is a big difference between a package going backwards in its EVR and staying there and a package getting

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 20:46:25 +0200, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: The proper fix would have been to just use epoch. People can call them evil all they want they are perfectly suitable for that kind of problems. Or just rebuild the old version again. (Which should work unless

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
Marc Grimme (gri...@atix.de) said: I've done this but could not take over the ownership for Fedora-devel. It's still orphaned there. Correct, because the packages have already been blocked as stated in the mail. I also got reminders from rawhide that the dependent packages could not be

Re: Review swaps

2011-07-27 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Would any one like to swap reviews :)? These two are *very very* simple packages that need to be reviewed. They're holding up xmedcon[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714327

Re: Review swaps

2011-07-27 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 14:00 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: Sure, I can probably pick one up. I don't have any unassigned right now but I'll settle for finishing up OpenImageIO[1] :) Thanks, Richard [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720411 I'm just finishing up with it. 10

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi 2011/7/27 Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz: (And of course, the thing to standardize would not be bin, but a subdirectory structure as defined by the GNU standards for --prefix.) I agree, it is precisely what I would like to see in a standard, a home GNU prefix for installing projects locally

Re: howto not strip .so on install

2011-07-27 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like the best course of action is to just disable debugedit? 1. Would this be acceptable for a fedora package? 2. Is it possible to  disable debugedit? I don't think disabling debugedit is necessary. I think I see

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.07.2011 21:59, schrieb Marc-André Lureau: I don't understand the security risks. If something is allowed to write to ~/.local/bin (or ~/bin etc..), then surely it's able to read elsewhere or do something else nasty. Could someone detail it? Depends on the PATH-Order if something is

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-27 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 23:46 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 26.07.11 17:16, James Antill (ja...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: Perhaps it's because in %postun it has systemctl try-restart sshd.service where it used to have service sshd condrestart, and systemd kills all running

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Jesse Keating
On 7/27/11 1:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Depends on the PATH-Order if something is intended to be first in PATH and any attacker is able to write there his ls would win against /bin/ls So, the attacker can write a compromised ls into .local/bin/, but isn't able to modify your .bash_profile ?

[Test-Announce] 2011-07-29 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #3

2011-07-27 Thread Tim Flink
# F16 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #3 # Date: 2011-07-29 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net It's once again time for everyone's favorite activity - blocker bug review meeting time !! Fedora 16 has branched and the first

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/27/2011 05:00 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On 7/27/11 1:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Depends on the PATH-Order if something is intended to be first in PATH and any attacker is able to write there his ls would win against /bin/ls So, the attacker can write a compromised ls into

File HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables-0.01.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by rlandmann

2011-07-27 Thread Rüdiger Landmann
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables: 0f6132d17056f2b2c20d03f31ea0c533 HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables-0.01.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables] new package

2011-07-27 Thread Rüdiger Landmann
commit 915d96553441413c57128abe1919daf2d516af8c Author: Ruediger Landmann r.landm...@redhat.com Date: Thu Jul 28 07:25:01 2011 +1000 new package .gitignore|1 + perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables.spec | 66 + sources

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:14:22 -0400 Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote: On 07/27/2011 05:00 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On 7/27/11 1:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Depends on the PATH-Order if something is intended to be first in PATH and any attacker is able to write there his ls would

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.07.2011 23:00, schrieb Jesse Keating: On 7/27/11 1:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Depends on the PATH-Order if something is intended to be first in PATH and any attacker is able to write there his ls would win against /bin/ls So, the attacker can write a compromised ls into

Outage: Server reboots - 2011-08-01 14:00 UTC

2011-07-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Outage: Server reboots - 2011-08-01 14:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2011-08-01 14:00 UTC, which will last approximately 2 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2011-08-01 14:00 UTC' Reason

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 06:43 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: What specifically does systemd do that autofs does not do without it? I don't know if there is anything, but it's neat to get something like this 'free' with systemd, without having to add any other package. It is fine for really

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/27/2011 06:20 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 06:43 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: What specifically does systemd do that autofs does not do without it? I don't know if there is anything, but it's neat to get something like this 'free' with systemd, without having to add any

Re: Starting a SIG for package reviews

2011-07-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
So, that was pretty good response; only one reply here, but several names were added to the wiki page. There seem to be enough people interested to begin moving forward. I can't think of a better place for discussion than this list, so I'll just go ahead: Could someone volunteer to co-chair

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 20:39 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: Take off your pink glasses. Rawhide *is* a dumping ground. It breaks users' installations regularly because of package maintainers using it as exactly that, a dumping ground for potentially untested builds. And how would we stop that?

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: cvsgraph

2011-07-27 Thread Bojan Smojver
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 19:16 +1000, Bojan Smojver wrote: Hi folks, Anyone knows how to contact cvsgraph maintainer (Marek Mahut)? Bug is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709923 I already built the package for EL6, but don't have enough karma to put it in bodhi. It's a

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 09:11 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 00:01 -0400, Braden McDaniel a écrit : Can someone explain (or point to) the rationale appending these to PATH rather than prepending them? I would have expected user binaries to supersede system

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Alexander Boström
On ons, 2011-07-27 at 21:59 +0200, Marc-André Lureau wrote: I don't understand the security risks. If something is allowed to write to ~/.local/bin (or ~/bin etc..), then surely it's able to read elsewhere or do something else nasty. Could someone detail it? Also, consider that the attacker

Starting a SIG for package reviews

2011-07-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
For a while now I've wanted to get some sort of package review SIG going. The package review process hasn't really evolved much since it was instituted way back when, and now it (and the portion of the sponsorship process it overlaps) has become a major bottleneck in one of the main ways of

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 00:01 -0400, Braden McDaniel a écrit : Can someone explain (or point to) the rationale appending these to PATH rather than prepending them? I would have expected user binaries to supersede system ones. Security. You can do all kinds of mischief by overriding an

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 00:01 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote: On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 08:45 -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: On 07/26/2011 08:36 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 07/26/2011 08:03 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote: 26.07.2011, 18:34, Andrew Haleya...@redhat.com: On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Fabian Deutsch fabian.deut...@gmx.dewrote: Am Dienstag, den 26.07.2011, 11:28 -0400 schrieb Bill Nottingham: Fabian Deutsch (fabian.deut...@gmx.de) said: It seems as if my first mail (from 12 days ago) got lost: I can take Orphan link-grammar

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-27 Thread Fabian Deutsch
- Ursprüngliche Nachricht - Von: Peter Robinson Gesendet: 27.07.11 10:09 Uhr An: Development discussions related to Fedora Betreff: Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning) On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Fabian Deutsch fabian.deut...@gmx.dewrote: Am

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Karel Zak
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:34:04PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: I don't think it makes a lot of sense to have a visible directory for binaries. People will see that, and be annoyed. (I have a suggestion, what about to install by default the old good heroin kernel module? It was able to

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:42:09 -0700, TK (Toshio) wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:24:58PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On 7/26/11 1:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this list: Subject: rpm builds failing with Installed (but unpackaged) file(s)

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-27 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 11:03 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:42:09 -0700, TK (Toshio) wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:24:58PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On 7/26/11 1:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this list:

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-27 Thread Marc Grimme
- Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:56:36PM +0200, Marc Grimme wrote: - Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Orphan comoonics-base-py comaintained by: elcody02 I'm co maintaining this package and it is required for the packages

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:02:14PM -0700, Josh Stone wrote: On 07/26/2011 09:49 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:45:11AM -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: In /etc/skel/.bash_profile they are added to the end and I think that is ok PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi, Really, this discussion is pointless. It should be taken to whoever maintains the xdg directory layout specs nowadays (even the FHS editors gave up on normalizing /home layout and pushed the problem xdg-side) http://bugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788#c5

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 27/07/11 11:19, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Really, this discussion is pointless. It should be taken to whoever maintains the xdg directory layout specs nowadays (even the FHS editors gave up on normalizing /home layout and pushed the problem xdg-side) No, because this is not an xdg-mandated

Fedora 15 for IBM System z 64bit official release

2011-07-27 Thread Dan Horák
It's been a longer time since the Fedora 15 release for the primary architectures than we expected, but here we are. As today, the Fedora IBM System z (s390x) Secondary Arch team proudly presents the Fedora 15 for IBM System z 64bit official release! And without further ado, here the links to

XDG and default directories (Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH)

2011-07-27 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, aside from the merits of adding ~/.local/bin, I just wanted to point out: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:19:51 +0200 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: It's all been done to make nautilus happy with user-friendly localized names on the user desktop (aping the windows mess). And

Re: XDG and default directories (Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH)

2011-07-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 12:26 +0200, Stijn Hoop a écrit : Hi, aside from the merits of adding ~/.local/bin, I just wanted to point out: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:19:51 +0200 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: It's all been done to make nautilus happy with

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/27/2011 01:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 07:07 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: On 07/26/2011 02:15 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 07:24 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: should not be surprised that you see resistance (what new capability does NFS get from

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 11:23 +0100, Andrew Haley a écrit : On 27/07/11 11:19, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Really, this discussion is pointless. It should be taken to whoever maintains the xdg directory layout specs nowadays (even the FHS editors gave up on normalizing /home layout and

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/27/2011 01:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: What specifically does systemd do that autofs does not do without it? I don't know if there is anything, but it's neat to get something like this 'free' with systemd, without having to add any other package. Be a little wary. This is not

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/27/2011 11:45 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 11:23 +0100, Andrew Haley a écrit : On 27/07/11 11:19, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Really, this discussion is pointless. It should be taken to whoever maintains the xdg directory layout specs nowadays (even the FHS

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 12:54 +0100, Andrew Haley a écrit : On 07/27/2011 11:45 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 11:23 +0100, Andrew Haley a écrit : On 27/07/11 11:19, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Really, this discussion is pointless. It should be taken to whoever

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/27/2011 01:00 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 12:54 +0100, Andrew Haley a écrit : On 07/27/2011 11:45 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 à 11:23 +0100, Andrew Haley a écrit : On 27/07/11 11:19, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Really, this discussion

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 07/27/2011 11:43 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote: On 07/27/2011 01:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 07:07 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: We track autofs issues for fedora, upstream and RHEL and seems to work well in the field. What specifically does systemd do that autofs does not

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 01:11:24PM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: On 07/27/2011 11:43 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote: On 07/27/2011 01:23 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 07:07 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: We track autofs issues for fedora, upstream and RHEL and seems to work well in

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Robert Marcano
Can someone explain (or point to) the rationale appending these to PATH rather than prepending them? I would have expected user binaries to supersede system ones. Although there is probably only a small number of security vulnerabilities of user applications that would allow just creating

File POE-Test-Loops-1.312.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2011-07-27 Thread Petr Sabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-POE-Test-Loops: 8e352fe9c9592d642cdf8a4230af6ad2 POE-Test-Loops-1.312.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-POE-Test-Loops] 1.312 bump, dependencies and filters update, cleanup

2011-07-27 Thread Petr Sabata
commit a4d4b8e197e6d283fffe0a209558f5c28ebd7eb6 Author: Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com Date: Wed Jul 27 14:48:36 2011 +0200 1.312 bump, dependencies and filters update, cleanup .gitignore |1 + perl-POE-Test-Loops.spec | 42 +++---

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/27/2011 05:10 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: Be a little wary. This is not really fine - systemd should do one thing and do it well ... when it starts to bleed off and try do too many things (with little to zero rationale or benefit) then the chances of things going wrong increase.

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 06:43, Ric Wheeler (rwhee...@redhat.com) wrote: (try 'noauto,comment=systemd.automount' as mount parameters for an NFS share) We track autofs issues for fedora, upstream and RHEL and seems to work well in the field. What specifically does systemd do that autofs

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 13:11, Bryn M. Reeves (b...@redhat.com) wrote: It appears to use the kernel autofs support but replaces the userspace daemon (and replaces the traditional automounter map file format with system.automount unit files). I can appreciate a benefit for personal systems from

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 27.07.11 10:30, Karel Zak (k...@redhat.com) wrote: Note that there are a number of 3rd party projects making use of ~/.config/bin afaik, including jhbuild which installs its executable to that dir. It would be nice to clean up $HOME, radically reduce the number of the

[perl-threads-tbb] Verbose tests

2011-07-27 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 7b2c8f27e5376d6464bf03d142679967ce01c598 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Wed Jul 27 11:02:30 2011 +0200 Verbose tests perl-threads-tbb.spec |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-threads-tbb.spec b/perl-threads-tbb.spec index

[perl-threads-tbb/f16] Verbose tests

2011-07-27 Thread Petr Pisar
Summary of changes: 7b2c8f2... Verbose tests (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 726022] New: perl-POE-Component-IRC-6.68 is available

2011-07-27 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-POE-Component-IRC-6.68 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726022 Summary: perl-POE-Component-IRC-6.68 is available

[Bug 715559] perl-Mojolicious-1.66 is available

2011-07-27 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715559 Upstream Release Monitoring upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed

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