Re: Fwd: Rapid DHCP

2011-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
On Fri 29 July 2011 13:10:34 Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: > Interesting message in another list. > > for me fedora is very slow to get dhcp address. Reading the hackernews comments on it makes me wonder if this is a very good idea. It may work for people in certain usecases, but in the case of Fe

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-30 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 02:23 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > David: on the subject of your followup...my advice, by the way, is that > life is too short to continue to try to explain why GNOME Shell is > unusable for folks like you and I. I'd just switch to XFCE and be done > with it. My machines are a

Re: Fwd: Rapid DHCP

2011-07-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/30/2011 04:48 AM, Ryan Rix wrote: ... > Reading the hackernews comments on it makes me wonder if this is a very good > idea. It may work for people in certain usecases, but in the case of Fedora > probably not so much > > http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2756952 > http://news.ycombina

Re: Fwd: Rapid DHCP

2011-07-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 30.07.11 10:31, Genes MailLists (li...@sapience.com) wrote: > >> http://cafbit.com/entry/rapid_dhcp_or_how_do > > > > Hmm ... the complaint of changing IP does not seem to make sense - as I > read the article - the MAC simply remembers server info and instead of a > blind dhcp (which cau

Re: koji: kernel-2.6.40-3.fc15

2011-07-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.07.2011 04:16, schrieb Dave Jones: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 01:16:43AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > i have running 2.6.40-4.fc15.x86_64 #1 SMP in my testing-virtual-machine > since > > some minutes, boot looked fine, after a minute a got a btrfs-stack-trace > > > > hope this he

Re: Fwd: Rapid DHCP

2011-07-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/30/2011 10:37 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sat, 30.07.11 10:31, Genes MailLists (li...@sapience.com) wrote: > http://cafbit.com/entry/rapid_dhcp_or_how_do >>> > > IIRC connman (i.e. NM's competition) can do the ARP magic, too. > > Lennart > Seems like a pretty reasonable t

Re: koji: kernel-2.6.40-3.fc15

2011-07-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/30/2011 12:52 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 30.07.2011 04:29, schrieb Genes MailLists: >> wasn't there some kind of issue in vm's ? >> Maybe I'm not remembering correctly > > no - performance sucks if the VM is stored on a BTRFS formatted disk > this is a completly other problem and it

Fwd: Broken dependencies: pysdm

2011-07-30 Thread Richard Shaw
This is my first time to get a message like this. Do I need to do anything yet or is this a branching issue that will likely resolve itself? Thanks, RIchard -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:49 AM Subject: Broken dependencies: pysdm To: pysdm-ow...@fedo

Re: Fwd: Broken dependencies: pysdm

2011-07-30 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 16:11:34 GMT, Richard Shaw wrote: > This is my first time to get a message like this. Do I need to do > anything yet or is this a branching issue that will likely resolve > itself? I got notifications about broken dependencies on /usr/bin/pkg-config. I'd wait until tomorrow

Re: Fwd: Broken dependencies: pysdm

2011-07-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:11:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > This is my first time to get a message like this. Do I need to do > anything yet or is this a branching issue that will likely resolve > itself? I suspect it is something related to the first build of F16. I got warnings for most (or

Defining build options based on available compiler version

2011-07-30 Thread Jussi Lehtola
Hi, I tried using %global gccver %(gcc -dumpversion) %if %{gccver} >= 4.6.0 foo here %endif to conditionalize usage of quadruple precision support in a spec file that ships on multiple distros, but the comparison gives the error parseExpressionBoolean returns -1 Is there a way to check

Re: Defining build options based on available compiler version

2011-07-30 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > Hi, > > > I tried using >  %global gccver %(gcc -dumpversion) >  %if %{gccver} >= 4.6.0 >  foo here >  %endif > > to conditionalize usage of quadruple precision support in a spec file > that ships on multiple distros, but the comparison give

Re: Broken dependencies: pysdm

2011-07-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:03:05 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:11:34 -0500, > Richard Shaw wrote: > > This is my first time to get a message like this. Do I need to do > > anything yet or is this a branching issue that will likely resolve > > itself? > > I suspect it i

Re: Defining build options based on available compiler version

2011-07-30 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 07/30/2011 07:44 PM, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > Is there a way to check if the gcc version is sufficient with some rpm > macro? Do you actually need to have it as a macro? Often cases like this can be handled with plain shell code in %prep, %build, etc. Or by patching the build system to do the

Re: Defining build options based on available compiler version

2011-07-30 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:05:12 +0300 Ville Skyttä wrote: > On 07/30/2011 07:44 PM, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > > > Is there a way to check if the gcc version is sufficient with some > > rpm macro? > > Do you actually need to have it as a macro? Often cases like this can > be handled with plain shell

Re: Defining build options based on available compiler version

2011-07-30 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:50:51 -0500 Richard Shaw wrote: > I'm just guessing here, but I think because of the dots it's returning > a string instead of a number which makes the >= comparison invalid. Is > there another gcc option that will give you a "dotless" version > number? > > I would try some

Would like to claim deprecated package "brandy"

2011-07-30 Thread Chris Tyler
I just found out about the package "brandy" and was saddened to realize that I missed the orphan-deprecation announcement. I'd like to take this one. Oddly, I see that the dead.package file states that: This package was retired on 2011-07-25 due to it being unable to build this pa

Re: Defining build options based on available compiler version

2011-07-30 Thread Thomas Spura
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:44:41 +0300 Jussi Lehtola wrote: > Hi, > > > I tried using > %global gccver %(gcc -dumpversion) > %if %{gccver} >= 4.6.0 > foo here > %endif > > to conditionalize usage of quadruple precision support in a spec file > that ships on multiple distros, but the compariso

Re: koji: kernel-2.6.40-3.fc15

2011-07-30 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 13:53 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=256138 > > does this mean that F15 will get a rebased 2.6.40 sooner or > later in stable repos to avoid troubles with the new versioning > and will not stuck at 2.6.38 the whole life cycl

RPM's For ClipGrab

2011-07-30 Thread Manuel Escudero
Hi! Today I found Fedora Specific RPM packages for ClipGrab, a GUI tool for Downloading Youtube Videos. The thing is, the binary file that the original developers give away for general linux use didn't work for me and I wasn't able to compile it by source, so I went to RPMFind but didn't found any

Re: Broken dependencies: pysdm

2011-07-30 Thread Elder Marco
I got this message about broken dependencies too -- tesseract and recode. Well, I'd wait. -- Elder Marco GNU/Linux User: #471180 "Contra o positivismo, que pára perante os fenômenos e diz: 'Há apenas fatos', eu digo: 'Ao contrário, fatos é o que não há; há apenas interpretações'. "(Nietzsche)

Re: Intent to package GNOME Shell frippery

2011-07-30 Thread seth vidal
On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 02:23 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > So, just so I understand, the requirement/assumption is that all > machines will be online and pulling bits down directly from GNOME? That > won't map at all to enterprise or non-fully connected environments. It > needs to be possible to inst

Re: Defining build options based on available compiler version

2011-07-30 Thread Niels de Vos
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 09:38:29PM +0200, Thomas Spura wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:44:41 +0300 > Jussi Lehtola wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I tried using > > %global gccver %(gcc -dumpversion) > > %if %{gccver} >= 4.6.0 > > foo here > > %endif > > > > to conditionalize usage of quadru

Re: Defining build options based on available compiler version

2011-07-30 Thread Thomas Spura
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:39:24 +0100 Niels de Vos wrote: > Watch out, this is very dangerous! You are comparing strings, not > versions: > >>> print '4.6.2' >= '4.6.12' > True Thanks... I was testing with to low numbers... :( > The better way would be to use distutils.version: > >>> from distutils

Re: Fwd: Rapid DHCP

2011-07-30 Thread Dan Williams
On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 11:46 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 07/30/2011 10:37 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Sat, 30.07.11 10:31, Genes MailLists (li...@sapience.com) wrote: > > > http://cafbit.com/entry/rapid_dhcp_or_how_do > >>> > > > > > IIRC connman (i.e. NM's competition) can d

Re: Fwd: Rapid DHCP

2011-07-30 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
Dan, that works on wireless networks. On wired networks the ARP technique determines *which* of the valid leases you should attempt to restore. So on a wired network you: 1. ARP the known DHCP server IPs to discover the subnet. 2. ARP the IP from the valid lease on that subnet to avoid collision. 3

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: cvsgraph

2011-07-30 Thread Bojan Smojver
Bojan Smojver rexursive.com> writes: > I'm guessing these things take time to propagate: Bodhi still telling me I don't have commit access to cvsgraph... -- Bojan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fwd: Rapid DHCP

2011-07-30 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/30/2011 06:49 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > > NM already keeps DHCP information around based on the network you're > connecting to, so we don't need to ARP a bunch of servers just to > determine whether the DHCP server we wanted is still there. dhclient is Cool - so is NM already pretty opt

Re: Fwd: Rapid DHCP

2011-07-30 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:30:30PM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 07/30/2011 06:49 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > > What's unique about the method described there is that the Mac > > configures the interface with the same IP address it previously had if > > the lease is still valid, while NetworkMan