Hello,
> I'm particularly "interested" in package halevt,
I have released the ownership of this one in pkgdb, in case that
helps you in short-time perspective.
Note I have not done anything but the clicks in pkgdb (sending mail
to fedora-devel?).
Have a nice day,
Stepan Kasal
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2011/9/14 Tom Lane :
> =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes:
>> 2011/9/14 Tom Lane :
>>> Certainly postgresql.init was never exactly lean-and-mean, so it
>>> seems like it ought to have been doing more work than the unit file
>>> requires. Are you sure you were comparing apples to apples a
2011/9/14 Adam Williamson :
> On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 20:37 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes:
>> > 2011/9/14 Tom Lane :
>> >> Certainly postgresql.init was never exactly lean-and-mean, so it
>> >> seems like it ought to have been doing more work than the unit fil
On 09/13/2011 11:03 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> Hi
>
> 2011/9/13 Tom Lane:
>> (This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0
>> for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd
>> files.)
> I used this service file on F15 and it starts slower
>4214ms postgresql
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 01:33:54AM +0300, Myroslav Opyr wrote:
>Hi,
Hello,
>Virtualization Test day is expected to be on September 15th this year
>([1]https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/232).
>
So that's tomorrow!
Luckily Xen Hackathon (@Munich) event is just happening,
so ho
perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables has broken dependencies in the F-16
tree:
On x86_64:
perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables-0.01-2.fc15.noarch requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.4)
On i386:
perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables-0.01-2.fc15.noarch requires
perl(:MOD
perl-NOCpulse-Gritch has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16.noarch requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
On i386:
perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16.noarch requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
Please resolve this as soon as possibl
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
On i386:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
Please resolve this as soon as po
On 09/14/2011 10:56 AM, Steve Clark wrote:
Thats right! Just wave your hands and say it is all ok that systemd
is slower now but it is doing
so much more and we will make it better in the future...!
I never said that what I said was it's irrelivent the startup time of a
service on a service
On 09/14/2011 01:42 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>> Honestly, if systemd updates has 5% of users failing on an update to
>> the software - we should dump the thing immediately and go back to
>> upstart. That is insanely high bug rate for core code which is (or
>> should be) pretty simple.
>
> R
On 09/14/2011 04:35 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 09/13/2011 11:03 PM, Micha? Piotrowski wrote:
Hi
2011/9/13 Tom Lane:
(This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0
for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd
files.)
I used this service file on F15
On 09/14/2011 05:13 PM, Genes MailLists wrote
> I realize, but that was indeed part of the point of my reply - lets
> avoid making up things (with or without hyperbole) - and best we can,
> stick to facts and real issues.
You are ignoring the real issue. Since you don't seem to understand my
poi
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:35:47 +
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> > 2011/9/13 Tom Lane:
>...
> > I used this service file on F15 and it starts slower
> >4214ms postgresql.service
> >
> > if we compare with an old SysVinit script
> >2469ms postgresql.service
>
>
> First of all you cant
On 09/14/2011 11:50 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 09/14/2011 05:13 PM, Genes MailLists wrote
>> I realize, but that was indeed part of the point of my reply - lets
>> avoid making up things (with or without hyperbole) - and best we can,
>> stick to facts and real issues.
> You are ignoring the r
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 01:03:04AM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> Hi
>
> 2011/9/13 Tom Lane :
> > (This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0
> > for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd
> > files.)
>
> I used this service file on F15 and it starts slo
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 01:03:04AM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> 2011/9/13 Tom Lane :
>> > (This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0
>> > for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd
2011/9/14 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> On 09/14/2011 10:56 AM, Steve Clark wrote:
> > This was a simple test to start postgresql - what else needs to be done!
>
> An simple test to measure this reliably is to strip down the legacy sysv
> init script to the start up command only and have a strip down
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:25:23AM -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 02:25:52PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 01:33:54AM +0300, Myroslav Opyr wrote:
> > >Hi,
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > >Virtualization Test day is expected to be on Septem
On 09/14/2011 02:22 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Is systemd boot actually any faster? There seems to be no
> noticable difference in boot times for me over whatever we
> were using in F14. ie. both methods still takes ages, far
> longer than should be necessary.
We arent optimising the defaul
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Miloslav_Trma=E8?= writes:
> 2011/9/14 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
>> An simple test to measure this reliably is to strip down the legacy sysv
>> init script to the start up command only and have a strip down unit file to
>> the startup command only.
>>
>> Then time the startup of ei
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Michal's numbers look pretty damning, and I find it remarkable that the
> systemd advocates seem to have managed not to read them, let alone admit
> that they suggest something's seriously wrong.
>
>
Michal's numbers look intriguing.
I look forw
On 09/14/2011 04:31 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 01:03:04AM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> 2011/9/13 Tom Lane:
(This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0
for F16 was the sam
Am 13.09.2011 23:58, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> On 09/14/2011 02:59 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
>> So Fedora guys what you are waiting for ? update systemd please , should
>> I open a report in bugzilla ?
>
> I can explain each of your examples but since systemd upstream developer
> is also the Fedo
Am 14.09.2011 06:52, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> It is a small number of people repeating bringing up high risk and
> frankly silly ideas like updating to a major new version of a core
> component in a update without sufficient justification for taking that
> risk
if fedora has a problem with updat
Am 14.09.2011 14:16, schrieb "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson":
> And FYI to all those that gloriously want to upgrade and claim that it's
> bug free or "they" ( all of what two people ) not encountered any issues
> inetd-style socket activation is borked in .35 ( users need to downgrade
> to .34 or add
On 09/14/2011 03:37 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> "better position to judge" is relative
Not really. Noone is in a better position to judge the impact of
updates more than the upstream developers who also maintain the
component in Fedora.
> yes, updates may introduce new bugs / problems
>
> but nob
2011/9/14 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> On 09/14/2011 02:22 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> Is systemd boot actually any faster? There seems to be no
>> noticable difference in boot times for me over whatever we
>> were using in F14. ie. both methods still takes ages, far
>> longer than should be
Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> Ok, I made four series of tests:
> - start/stop an old init script
> - start/stop an old init script with dropping caches - should simulate
> system booting
> - start/stop service file
> - start/stop service file with dropping caches
Just to be clear.
This is done on a
On 09/14/2011 11:28 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Miloslav_Trma=E8?= writes:
2011/9/14 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson":
An simple test to measure this reliably is to strip down the legacy sysv
init script to the start up command only and have a strip down unit file to
the startup command only.
T
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:38:39 +0200
Remi Collet wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm following
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers
>
> It seems gouldwp is non-responsive.
>
> User: gouldwp,
> Name: None,
> email: w...@gouldfamily.org,
> Creation: 2008-01-19,
> Status: a
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:58:11 +0200
Stepan Kasal wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> > Therefore I'd like to ask FESCo to mass-orphan all packages owned
> > by him. Should I open a ticket?
>
> yes, it is true that I'm not able to find any time to do my duties as
> a package maintainer. I agree that mass or
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 09/14/2011 04:31 PM, drago01 wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Richard W.M. Jones
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 01:03:04AM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi
2011/9/13 Tom Lane:
> (This isn't new with
2011/9/14 Jef Spaleta :
> Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>> Ok, I made four series of tests:
>> - start/stop an old init script
>> - start/stop an old init script with dropping caches - should simulate
>> system booting
>> - start/stop service file
>> - start/stop service file with dropping caches
>
>
>
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 07:43 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
> Also, I'd be curious if LP felt the risk was high or negligible - since
> his thoughts should carry more weight on this topic.
> I assume he would not think 5% of users would have un-bootable systems.
No developer ever thinks their chan
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 15:22 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 01:03:04AM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > 2011/9/13 Tom Lane :
> > > (This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0
> > > for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native s
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 11:28 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Michal's numbers look pretty damning, and I find it remarkable that the
> systemd advocates seem to have managed not to read them, let alone admit
> that they suggest something's seriously wrong.
Tests of a single service on a single system in
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 18:23 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> What kind of disk is that? For a mechanical drive any gain from
> parallel startup would get killed by disk seeks.
There is no real 'gain' from parallel startup when switching from
upstart to systemd, especially in the F15 case where almost all
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 17:47 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> 2011/9/14 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> > On 09/14/2011 02:22 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >> Is systemd boot actually any faster? There seems to be no
> >> noticable difference in boot times for me over whatever we
> >> were using in
2011/9/14 Michał Piotrowski
> Exactly. F15, PostgreSQL 9.0 and just service file from PostgreSQL
> 9.1. Root filesystem and database are on SSD and Ext4.
>
>
Okay... brace yourself.
I just ran this test on my non-SSD ext4 based F15 system and I get the
opposite result on start...repeatably. On
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=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes:
> Ok, I made four series of tests:
> - start/stop an old init script
> - start/stop an old init script with dropping caches - should simulate
> system booting
> - start/stop service file
> - start/stop service file with dropping caches
> In each series
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 18:23 +0200, drago01 wrote:
>
>> What kind of disk is that? For a mechanical drive any gain from
>> parallel startup would get killed by disk seeks.
>
> There is no real 'gain' from parallel startup when switching fro
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 19:43 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 18:23 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> >
> >> What kind of disk is that? For a mechanical drive any gain from
> >> parallel startup would get killed by disk seeks.
> >
> >
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Here's what I did:
...
> 4. Note the time from the first "date" output to the "database system is
> ready to accept connections" message getting logged
Tom,
your methodology is sound. You're too kind to say but given the
"completion criteria" of
On 09/14/2011 12:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 07:43 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
>
>> Also, I'd be curious if LP felt the risk was high or negligible - since
>> his thoughts should carry more weight on this topic.
>> I assume he would not think 5% of users would have un-
Alle mercoledì 14 settembre 2011, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto:
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:58:11 +0200
>
> Stepan Kasal wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > > Therefore I'd like to ask FESCo to mass-orphan all packages owned
> > > by him. Should I open a ticket?
> >
> > yes, it is true that I'm not able to fi
Hi Fedora people.
I have just installed F16 on my Asus 522 (a netbook) and everything
works regarding hw. Good work everybody!
However, compared to F15 everything feels really slow. Typing this has a
delay of about .5 seconds for every character in Evolution, and logging
into Gnome Shell takes a
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> Hi Fedora people.
>
> I have just installed F16 on my Asus 522 (a netbook) and everything
> works regarding hw. Good work everybody!
>
> However, compared to F15 everything feels really slow. Typing this has a
> delay of about .5 seconds for
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 22:02 +0200, Andreas Tunek wrote:
> Hi Fedora people.
>
> I have just installed F16 on my Asus 522 (a netbook) and everything
> works regarding hw. Good work everybody!
>
> However, compared to F15 everything feels really slow. Typing this has a
> delay of about .5 seconds f
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 16:03:38 -0400,
Josh Boyer wrote:
> Try the 3.1-rc6 kernel sitting in bodhi waiting to be pushed to f16 stable.
While I don't have hard numbers running that kernel seems to help. My rawhide
system was so slow that I rebuilt that kernel (though probably I could have
just
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 19:50:53 +0200
Hans de Goede wrote:
> Jonathan, can you give bluez-4.96-3.fc17 a spin? It should fix your
> mouse + keyboard issue.
OK, I finally got a chance to install this. Mouse and keyboard work
great, thanks.
Thanks,
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On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 15:01 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 16:03:38 -0400,
> Josh Boyer wrote:
> > Try the 3.1-rc6 kernel sitting in bodhi waiting to be pushed to f16 stable.
>
> While I don't have hard numbers running that kernel seems to help. My rawhide
> system was
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 13:46:40 -0700,
Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> They weren't; see my numbers in the related bug
> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735268 ). The debug
> overhead appears to have gotten much heavier in 3.1.
I added myself to that bug, though I wasn't really seeing
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 13:28, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 13:46:40 -0700,
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> > They weren't; see my numbers in the related bug
> > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735268 ). The debug
> > overhead appears to have gotten much heavier
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 14:00 -0700, darrell pfeifer wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 13:28, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 13:46:40 -0700,
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> > They weren't; see my numbers in the related bug
> > (https://
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 14:16:16 -0700,
Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> The 'fix' for the F16 kernel is simply that, with the rc6 build,
> debugging has been disabled. debugging is never disabled in Rawhide
> kernels, so if debugging overhead is your problem, no Rawhide kernel is
> going to cure it.
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 03:59:02PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> I think the degree of slow down now, compared with the past, makes this
> issue a bug. If things are like they are now, I won't be running debug
> kernels on my rawhide systems. It costs me too much time. It would be
> nice to
On 09/14/2011 12:35 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 14.09.2011 14:16, schrieb "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson":
>> And FYI to all those that gloriously want to upgrade and claim that it's
>> bug free or "they" ( all of what two people ) not encountered any issues
>> inetd-style socket activation is borked i
Hello, all.
I have been trying to contact Andreas Osowski (CC-ed) about updating
Almanah to upstream 0.8.0 (bug 720544 [1]).
I have pinged him twice on this bug report (once on August 19 and again
on September 3). I also emailed him directly just over two days ago; but
have unfortunately received
Hello all,
sorry for this small hassle,
I was planning to answer Peter's last e-mail tomorrow as I was unable to do
so today.
@Peter: The update is the first thing on my todo list for tomorrow together
with a rebuild of mumble for F16 & rawhide.
- Andreas
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Peter
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said:
> > Well we never had "upstart" (it was just a renamed sysvinit i.e we
> > didn't use any of its parallel startup stuff).
>
> hum, I thought we were using its ability to parallel start things based
> on LSB deps. oh well. it's certainly *capable* of tha
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:48:48 +
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
...snip...
> When I had time to look at irc from $dayjob I noticed that I had been
> ping and what awaits me was this...
>
> " abadger1999: He's on what could only be usefully termed a crusade.
> It's actually somewhat damaging,
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 17:28:10 -0400,
Dave Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 03:59:02PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>
> > I think the degree of slow down now, compared with the past, makes this
> > issue a bug. If things are like they are now, I won't be running debug
> > kernels o
On 09/14/2011 02:57 PM, Andreas Osowski wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> sorry for this small hassle,
> I was planning to answer Peter's last e-mail tomorrow as I was unable to do
> so today.
>
> @Peter: The update is the first thing on my todo list for tomorrow together
> with a rebuild of mumble for F16
On 09/14/2011 10:32 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> I'd like to note that Toshio (abadger1999 on IRC) did in fact not say
> this. It was someone else answering them.
Oh no he would never in fact Toshio has been one of the more helpful
person to me always and he is one of the person I look for inspiratio
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 17:27 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 17:28:10 -0400,
> Dave Jones wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 03:59:02PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> >
> > > I think the degree of slow down now, compared with the past, makes this
> > > issue a bug. If
Greetings.
In some of the recent discussions of issues with the current updates
policy, one idea that was suggested was to try and get proventesters to
meet up say once a week. This would allow us to discuss and look at
pending critical path updates that need testing or security updates or
other
The context for this question can be found here:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/virt-maint/2011-March/002289.html
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679179
So the summary is that openbios needs to be compiled on PPC/SPARC and
then imported to the rest of the repos as noarch. Spo
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 09:05 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> and force
> a switch to systemd at the same time and then force the users to
> upgrade again to F16 as soon as possible to get systemd updated
> is simply the wrong way
I agree!
other piece of email :
> And FYI to all those that glorious
On 09/15/2011 12:19 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> In some of the recent discussions of issues with the current
> updates policy, one idea that was suggested was to try and get
> proventesters to meet up say once a week. This would allow us to
> discuss and look at pending critical path u
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Nathaniel McCallum
wrote:
> The context for this question can be found here:
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/virt-maint/2011-March/002289.html
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679179
> What I'm not fine with is that there seems to be no des
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Nathaniel McCallum
> wrote:
>> The context for this question can be found here:
>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/virt-maint/2011-March/002289.html
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679179
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Nathaniel McCallum
wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Nathaniel McCallum
>> wrote:
>>> The context for this question can be found here:
>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/virt-maint/2011-March
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Nathaniel McCallum
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Nathaniel McCallum
>>> wrote:
The context for this question can be found here:
h
On Wed, 14.09.11 01:03, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Hi
>
> 2011/9/13 Tom Lane :
> > (This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0
> > for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd
> > files.)
>
> I used this service file on F15 and it starts
So, I gather no one can shed some light on this? anyone? bueller?
The bug (point #2) doesn't really stop the plugin from working, but it is
annoying.
Any help would be much appreciated
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 01:03:24PM -0700, Jorge Gallegos wrote:
> (to both cloud@ and devel@)
>
> I was inter
On 09/14/2011 06:23 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> My netbook boots up F14 in ca. 60 secs, while F15 boots up in 62 secs.
>> I'd call this "below measurement accuracy".
>
> What kind of disk is that?
It's ca. 3 years old WD Scorpio Blue 160 GB ( WD
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 09/14/2011 06:23 PM, drago01 wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>
>>> My netbook boots up F14 in ca. 60 secs, while F15 boots up in 62 secs.
>>> I'd call this "below measurement accuracy".
>>
>> What kind of
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