Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2012 08:38 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > im talking purely about the wording of the license in that > paragraph. if someone sumbited a license that had something along > the lines of "software under this license can not be used on UEFI > sys

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-05 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Wed, 6 Jun 2012 03:58:14 +0100 Matthew Garrett escribió: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 09:43:03PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > We don't allow software in fedora that has a license that has a > > usage restriction that says it can not be used in

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 09:43:03PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > We don't allow software in fedora that has a license that has a usage > restriction that says it can not be used in a commercial environment > for instance. I do not see why we would allow software that says you can > use this as lo

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-05 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Tue, 05 Jun 2012 08:15:57 +0200 Tomas Mraz escribió: > On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 21:30 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > El Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:18:17 -0400 > > Orcan Ogetbil escribió: > > > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > >

Re: Releasing ownership of many audio packages (and a little more)

2012-06-05 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Anthony Green wrote: > Fedora developers, > > While I brought many of these into Fedora, I have not been an active > maintainer for these packages for a very long time.  Most of them have very > responsible and active co-maintainers already.  I am about to release

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-05 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 10:03:24AM +0200, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> * 3rd attempt: > >> Same as options as the 2nd attempt but this time I chose to enable > >> only the F17 remote repositories and I disabled the "Install repo" so > >> I p

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-05 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 09:48:37AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 10:37 +0200, Caterpillar wrote: > > > I am very disappointed with that, because preupgrade is the official > > supported way to upgrade Fedora versions > > Strictly, no. It's *a* supported way. > > Frankly,

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 16:28 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 10:32:37PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > You can write .iso image to USB key¹ and boot from it, you know. > > > > Even the installation DVD images? What I've heard is that that only works

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-05 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 10:32:37PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > You can write .iso image to USB key¹ and boot from it, you know. > > Even the installation DVD images? What I've heard is that that only works > with > the live CD images. You can dd all of the iso's to USB

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-05 Thread Sandro Mani
On 06/05/2012 03:52 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: Systemd includes libudev.so.1, while the old libudev.rpm provided libudev.so.0. Therefore, all packages using udev need to be rebuilt. Here is what's happening on my x86_64 rawhide install which has some i686 packages (in particular, mesa) installed

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-05 Thread Tadej Janež
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 13:55 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: > I'll plan unpush that update and work on patching ImageMagick to handle > these issues locally. But I'm not security expert and can't guarantee > something except mentioned patch apply (contrary leave it on upstream > authors, as I was w

Re: glusterfs rename

2012-06-05 Thread Robyn Bergeron
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY > wrote: >> On 05/30/2012 02:23 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> >>> Yes, for the Fedora side of things I think gluster 3.2 is the best >>> strategy with a fedorapeople repo of 3.3 if it's c

Re: Releasing ownership of many audio packages (and a little more)

2012-06-05 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > On Jun 5, 2012 12:58 PM, "Jon Ciesla" wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Anthony Green wrote: >> > Fedora developers, >> > >> > While I brought many of these into Fedora, I have not been an active >> > maintainer for these packa

koji servers and the caname

2012-06-05 Thread john maclean
Hi, When setting up a koji server, does one have to use a caname of koji? Surely one should be able to use a server's FDQN? Thanks - john -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-05 Thread drago01
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Tomas Mraz wrote: > On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 19:54 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Tomas Mraz wrote: >> > That's a total nonsense unless the restriction is by-license and not >> > just technical obstacle. If it is just a technical obstacle in the code, >> > you can remo

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-05 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 19:54 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Tomas Mraz wrote: > > That's a total nonsense unless the restriction is by-license and not > > just technical obstacle. If it is just a technical obstacle in the code, > > you can remove it and run the software on any crippled machine at you

Re: Releasing ownership of many audio packages (and a little more)

2012-06-05 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Jun 5, 2012 12:58 PM, "Jon Ciesla" wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Anthony Green wrote: > > Fedora developers, > > > > While I brought many of these into Fedora, I have not been an active maintainer for these packages for a very long time. Most of them have very responsible and ac

svn2cl orphaned

2012-06-05 Thread Ville Skyttä
Hello, I've released svn2cl's ownership in pkgdb as I don't use it any longer. There were no co-maintainers so it's orphaned now, go grab it if you use it. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Releasing ownership of many audio packages (and a little more)

2012-06-05 Thread Brendan Jones
On 06/05/2012 06:53 PM, Anthony Green wrote: > liblo -- Open Sound Control library > lv2core -- Audio Plugin Standard > mxml -- Miniature XML development library > phasex -- PHASEX -- Phase Harmonic Advanced Synthesis EXperiment > seq24 -- Real-time midi sequencer whysynth-dssi -- DSSI software s

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kamil Paral wrote: > Let's assume we have moved wine-Tahoma to wine-specific font directory: > 1. Wine users experience stays the same - all wine applications are still > rendered correctly 2. General users experience improves - web browser > doesn't display a lot of favorite web pages (like Facebo

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tomas Mraz wrote: > That's a total nonsense unless the restriction is by-license and not > just technical obstacle. If it is just a technical obstacle in the code, > you can remove it and run the software on any crippled machine at your > will. So no, making your software not to work on particular

Re: Releasing ownership of many audio packages (and a little more)

2012-06-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
I wrote: > Anthony Green wrote: >> raptor -- Raptor RDF Parser Toolkit for Redland > > I picked up this one (Fedora only, it's still up for grabs in EPEL 5). I > was already a comaintainer. It's part of the Redland stack, which is > required by Soprano, which is required by the Nepomuk stack, whi

Re: Releasing ownership of many audio packages (and a little more)

2012-06-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Anthony Green wrote: > raptor -- Raptor RDF Parser Toolkit for Redland I picked up this one (Fedora only, it's still up for grabs in EPEL 5). I was already a comaintainer. It's part of the Redland stack, which is required by Soprano, which is required by the Nepomuk stack, which is required by t

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-05 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On 6/4/12 9:52 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: >> >> We merged the upstream udev repository entirely into the systemd >> repository. There is no standalone upstream udev project anymore. >> >> The version of systemd which includes udev has landed in ra

Re: Releasing ownership of many audio packages (and a little more)

2012-06-05 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Anthony Green wrote: > Fedora developers, > > While I brought many of these into Fedora, I have not been an active > maintainer for these packages for a very long time.  Most of them have very > responsible and active co-maintainers already.  I am about to releas

Releasing ownership of many audio packages (and a little more)

2012-06-05 Thread Anthony Green
Fedora developers, While I brought many of these into Fedora, I have not been an active maintainer for these packages for a very long time. Most of them have very responsible and active co-maintainers already. I am about to release ownership of the following packages: ardour -- Multichannel

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On 6/5/12 10:33 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: Here's a list of owners with packages that currently require libudev.so.0 in Rawhide. # repoquery --whatrequires libudev.so.0 --qf '%{sourcerpm}' | rev | cut -f3- -d- | rev | sort | uniq | fedoradev-pkgowners | sort | column -t ajax libdrm bskeggs xorg

rawhide report: 20120605 changes

2012-06-05 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Jun 5 08:15:03 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [389-admin] 389-admin-1.1.28-1.fc18.i686 requires libicuuc.so.48 389-admin-1.1.28-1.fc18.i686 requires libicui18n.so.48 389-admin-1.1.28-1.fc18.

[perl-SQL-Library] 0.0.4 bump and some cleanup

2012-06-05 Thread Petr Šabata
commit 721bdcf49db6c40c40dda0357c545848fd39ca2b Author: Petr Šabata Date: Tue Jun 5 17:35:46 2012 +0200 0.0.4 bump and some cleanup .gitignore|1 + perl-SQL-Library.spec | 25 ++--- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 1

File SQL-Library-0.0.4.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2012-06-05 Thread Petr Šabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-SQL-Library: e77199d4d71eac25cc82b2a86711052c SQL-Library-0.0.4.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On 6/4/12 9:52 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: We merged the upstream udev repository entirely into the systemd repository. There is no standalone upstream udev project anymore. The version of systemd which includes udev has landed in rawhide a couple of days ago. Fedora 18 will not have a udev.rpm, no l

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-05 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 06/02/2012 06:27 PM, drago01 wrote: No one is preventing anyone from providing instructions on how to disable secure boot. We should definitely do that. But those are not mutually exclusive ... i.e we can have both documentation *and* an OS that just works. Everyone, including Microsoft, ag

Notice: samba 4.0 beta1 and what will be available in Fedora

2012-06-05 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
Hi! Samba team has released Samba 4.0 beta 1 today. This is important milestone in a more than 8 years of Samba 4 development. This mail attempts to explain what will be and will not be available in Fedora (Rawhide first, http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4128906, we are consid

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-05 Thread Andreas Bierfert
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 11:49 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le Mar 5 juin 2012 10:59, Kamil Paral a écrit : > > > If you are afraid there might be people out there who want wine-Tahoma as a > > system font, it is important to realize that those people are probably just > > a > > tiny fraction of

Re: rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-05 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 06/05/2012 03:52 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: Systemd includes libudev.so.1, while the old libudev.rpm provided libudev.so.0. Therefore, all packages using udev need to be rebuilt. Here's a list of owners with packages that currently require libudev.so.0 in Rawhide. # repoquery --whatrequires l

Re: Notice: Retiring vbetool in F18

2012-06-05 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2012-06-05, Adam Jackson wrote: > On 6/5/12 4:05 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: > >> How can I reset the graphics card using KMS (vbetool post)? > > You've needed to? > It's long time when I used the tool. After getting my nvidia card into undefined state (X server crash, relicts after playing with vide

Re: How to proceed with MiniDebugInfo

2012-06-05 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Alexander Larsson wrote: > On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 21:49 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> The right way is probably to write a feature page for F18 for it, and >> then get it through Fedora 18 feature process. With FESCO accepting the >> feature you should have al

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-05 Thread Pavel Alexeev
05.06.2012 16:09, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:05:13 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: 04.06.2012 22:26, Michael Schwendt написал: On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:36:29 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: Additionally have worth I try read carefully all docs about provenpackager and such updates

Re: Notice: Retiring vbetool in F18

2012-06-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On 6/5/12 4:05 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: How can I reset the graphics card using KMS (vbetool post)? You've needed to? There's no direct equivalent to vbetool post. KMS drivers handle suspend/resume in the kernel. Some of them have lockup detection and have implemented GPU resets internally (

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-05 Thread inode0
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Tomas Mraz wrote: > On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 21:30 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> El Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:18:17 -0400 >> Orcan Ogetbil escribió: >> > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: >> > > >> > > The only Freedom you've lost is that now, in additi

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:05:13 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: > 04.06.2012 22:26, Michael Schwendt написал: > > On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:36:29 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: > > > >> Additionally have worth I try read carefully all docs about > >> provenpackager and such updates and have not found how deal

Re: F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-05 Thread Tom Hughes
On 05/06/12 11:15, Paul Howarth wrote: On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:01:15 -0400 Gerry Reno wrote: Look back several years and you'll find still unaddressed installation bugs for anaconda/preupgrade. For example /boot on RAID. Hmm, I did a fresh F17 install two days ago with /boot on (MD) RAID1 a

Re: F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-05 Thread Paul Howarth
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:01:15 -0400 Gerry Reno wrote: > On 06/04/2012 07:44 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:37:07 -0400 > > Gerry Reno wrote: > > > >>> Burned another DVD and booting it got some other errors (rpcbind?) > >>> but it runs the installer at least. > >>> > >>> I'm do

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:55:21 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: > Only one other think before I do that. Is it will be needed then > introduce epoch in Fedora 16 IM build to push less version in stable > branch? Could you explain _why_ you think you need to increase the Epoch? Last package in F-16 u

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-05 Thread Pavel Alexeev
04.06.2012 22:26, Michael Schwendt написал: On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:36:29 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: Additionally have worth I try read carefully all docs about provenpackager and such updates and have not found how deal with such versions. It's not provenpackager specific stuff, but found in

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-05 Thread Pavel Alexeev
04.06.2012 21:11, Pete Walter написал: Pavel Alexeev hubbitus.com.ru> writes: May be in next time? What disadvantages you are seen proceed with that update? Do you try test it? No, I did not test this. And here's a few reasons why I think this shouldn't be pushed: - You are forcing others

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-05 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 5 juin 2012 10:59, Kamil Paral a écrit : > If you are afraid there might be people out there who want wine-Tahoma as a > system font, it is important to realize that those people are probably just a > tiny fraction of the other side of the argument That's a dangerous argument, looks are s

octave-struct and octave-optim: license change from GPLv2+ to GPLv3+

2012-06-05 Thread Thomas Sailer
I'd like to push octave-struct v1.0.10 and octave-optim v1.1.0 to rawhide; octave-struct and octave-optim change, like the rest of the octave forge repository, the license from GPLv2+ to GPLv3+. The only package that depends on octave-struct in the repository that I am aware of is octave-optim,

Re: How to proceed with MiniDebugInfo

2012-06-05 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 21:49 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 24.05.12 09:28, Alexander Larsson (al...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > I'm at a loss to how to proceed with the MiniDebugInfo work. I have > > patches to rpmbuild that creates the compressed minidebuginfo putting > > them in the mai

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-05 Thread Kamil Paral
Andreas wrote: > Hi, > > first I would like to point out that I am totally open for a > discussion > about this. IMO bugzilla is just not the right place for it. Thanks, that's great. Chris wrote: > Well, no they don't. They are requesting the font Microsoft calls > Tahoma, not a Wine-provided

Re: supercat anybody working on it?

2012-06-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 20:16:49 -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On 6/2/2012 7:03 PM, Adrian Alves wrote: > > am not following what u mean? Please don't top-post, Adrian. Top-posting makes it much more difficult to understand what you refer to, especially since you've asked a question. > > On Sat,

Guacamole Java Web Application

2012-06-05 Thread Simone Caronni
Hello, sorry for double posting to devel and java-devel but the last seems not so crowded. On 24 May 2012 12:04, Simone Caronni wrote: > following the mail in fedora-devel, I'm posting here some progress in > packaging the Guacamole stack for Fedora. I hope to get some advice > from Fedora Java

Re: Notice: Retiring vbetool in F18

2012-06-05 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2012-06-04, Adam Jackson wrote: > > Historically the only thing requiring vbetool was pm-utils, but that's > not been true in a nice long time: > > * Fri Oct 08 2010 Adam Jackson 1.3.1-2 > - Drop the vbetool dependency, suspend is only supported on KMS drivers. > > That was F14 gold: > > % koj