Re: [X-post]Join Fedora SIG

2012-06-15 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 17:54 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Steps: > 1. File ticket at infra to set up fedora-join mailing list > 2. Set up IRC channel #fedora-join > 3. File ticket with websites SIG to make tiny changes to join.fp.o > to list Fedora-Join IRC and mailing list channels.

Fedora 17 ARM Release Candidate VFAD results - Follow up VFAD on Monday June 18th

2012-06-15 Thread Paul Whalen
Good day all, Thanks to everyone who was able to participate in our VFAD this afternoon. Below is a summary of the results: The following RC1 images (http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/arm-nightlies/vault/to-mirrors/RC1/) worked as expected and all tests were successful: Pandaboard w/serial con

Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-18)

2012-06-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Monday at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic ticket 861 - Cleanup of maintainers with b

Re: Need some ocaml help: coq rebuild failing

2012-06-15 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Jerry James wrote: > I'm having a problem with building the coq package for the new OCaml > 4.00.0, and I'm at my wits' end.  There were some bad interactions > between the new OCaml, camlp5, and coq which I think I have > successfully worked around.  (It isn't pr

Re: Revelation password manager issue

2012-06-15 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jun 15, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >> They are using PBKDF2 with SHA-256, default 500 rounds up to 100,000 rounds. >> The database is locally encrypted. Offline access is possible. The free >> version supports Google Authenticator for TFA, other forms of TFA are >> available in the

Thoughts on Canonical's Quickly

2012-06-15 Thread Jef Spaleta
I poked a little bit and I got quickly up and running partially on an F16 system. I say partially because I can't use all the exposed commands in the ubuntu application template because some of the commands aimed at publication require a coherent debian system configuration to make a local .deb fi

Re: Revelation password manager issue

2012-06-15 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Well, not so much exit as shutdown. It seems to frequently throw an > exception of some kind on shutdown, which seems to block up the shutdown > process until you dismiss the error dialog. Maybe it's Just Me (TM) Successful rawhide sc

Re: Revelation password manager issue

2012-06-15 Thread Jef Spaleta
So yeah... revelation is back to being entirely noarch python again. Is bouncing a package from arch to noarch as an update going to cause problems? -jef On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 11:14 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1

Re: Revelation password manager issue

2012-06-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 11:14 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 10:56 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote: > >> It seems there is a new upstream for revelation as of March this year. > >> I'll poke at them a little bit to see what's

Re: Revelation password manager issue

2012-06-15 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Jef Spaleta wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 10:56 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote: >>> It seems there is a new upstream for revelation as of March this year. >>>  I'll poke at them a little bit to see what's goi

Re: Revelation password manager issue

2012-06-15 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 10:56 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote: >> It seems there is a new upstream for revelation as of March this year. >>  I'll poke at them a little bit to see what's going on.  It's been a >> while since there has been an active

Re: Revelation password manager issue

2012-06-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 10:56 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote: > It seems there is a new upstream for revelation as of March this year. > I'll poke at them a little bit to see what's going on. It's been a > while since there has been an active upstream for this codebase. Have they fixed the crash-on-exit

Re: Revelation password manager issue

2012-06-15 Thread Jef Spaleta
It seems there is a new upstream for revelation as of March this year. I'll poke at them a little bit to see what's going on. It's been a while since there has been an active upstream for this codebase. Here's a thought... what's Debian's policy concerning security issues is packages with a dead

Re: Revelation password manager issue

2012-06-15 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2012, at 3:09 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > >> FWIW, I'd recommend KeePassX as an impressive alternative to Revelation, >> with much more advanced & flexible functionality > > I've been using Lastpass for a few months and like t

Re: Revelation password manager issue

2012-06-15 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jun 15, 2012, at 3:09 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > FWIW, I'd recommend KeePassX as an impressive alternative to Revelation, > with much more advanced & flexible functionality I've been using Lastpass for a few months and like the automatic synchronization between computers and browsers re

Re: julia language

2012-06-15 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 06/14/2012 03:17 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: I spent some time today trying to package up julia. It's pretty messy and this is no where near complete (it still downloads packages and fails to build due to https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/issues/933), but thought I'd put it out there in case

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-15 Thread Alexey I. Froloff
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:36:15AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 06/15/2012 10:31 AM, Steve Clark wrote: > > +1 > > This really isn't adding anything to the discussion, just noise. Please > stop replying to large emails, quoting the entire thing, and just adding > a "+1". It's not helpful.

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 12:05 -0400, Jay Sulzberger wrote: > In the case of ARM devices Microsoft's statement of its position > is different: If the ARM device is shipped with a Microsoft OS, > then Fedora will never be installed on the device. No putting > one's own key in, no getting a special >

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-15 Thread Steve Clark
On 06/15/2012 12:05 PM, Jay Sulzberger wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2012, Mathieu Bridon wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 15:46 -0400, Jay Sulzberger wrote: Please forgive this top posting. I will not answer now your radical defense of Microsoft, except to say two things: 1. Your defense would apply a

Re: ARM is a dead end

2012-06-15 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 06/14/2012 07:57 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: So even smartphones are going x86 now. It looks like x86 is going to defeat ARM just like it defeated all the previous attempts at changing the instruction set, even Intel's own IA-64. The fastest x86 CPUs are still worlds faster than the fastest ARM C

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-15 Thread Jay Sulzberger
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 15:46 -0400, Jay Sulzberger wrote: > Please forgive this top posting. > > I will not answer now your radical defense of Microsoft, except to > say two things: > > 1. Your defense would apply also to the decades long fraud o

[Bug 480129] Error at calling service amavisd restart when SELinux is in enforce mode

2012-06-15 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=480129 Karel Srot changed: What|Removed |Added CC||ks...@redhat.com -- You are receiving this

Re: ARM is a dead end

2012-06-15 Thread Peter Jones
On 06/14/2012 07:57 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Hi, I've been pointed to a news item about a (apparently the first) x86 (Atom) based smartphone: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/14/orange-san-diego-review/ So even smartphones are going x86 now. It's probably best not to extrapolate the extent of a

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-15 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > Jesse Keating wrote: >> >> The point in which you find yourself arguing over the semantics of >> Goodwin's law is also a clear indication that the thread has lost any amount >> of usefulness. > > > Godwin's Meta-Law?  Or maybe Keating's Corollary

Re: redhat-rpm-config and rpm-build (fwd)

2012-06-15 Thread Marcela Maslanova
- Original Message - > From: "Jan Kratochvil" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 11:35:19 AM > Subject: Re: redhat-rpm-config and rpm-build (fwd) > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 05:03:59 +0200, Jens Petersen wrote: > > Well I tend to agree: it wo

Re: redhat-rpm-config and rpm-build (fwd)

2012-06-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/15/2012 05:03 AM, Jens Petersen wrote: yum install rpm-build should install an rpmbuild version that works as expected for fedora. Currently, it does not because it is missing the dependancy on redhat-rpm-config. Well I tend to agree: it would be the least surprising behaviour for most f

[perl-XML-Simple-DTDReader] Specify all dependencies

2012-06-15 Thread Petr Pisar
commit cab930586b939289877c09fab22fb5a780681ebb Author: Petr Písař Date: Fri Jun 15 11:35:57 2012 +0200 Specify all dependencies perl-XML-Simple-DTDReader.spec | 11 +++ 1 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-XML-Simple-DTDReader.spec b/perl-XML-

Re: redhat-rpm-config and rpm-build (fwd)

2012-06-15 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 05:03:59 +0200, Jens Petersen wrote: > Well I tend to agree: it would be the least surprising behaviour for most > fedora packagers. > Though I understand the point about keeping rpmbuild generic - > I don't see how pulling in redhat-rpm-config would break generic rpms? > Surel

Re: Escalation - better desktop printing policy (over two years old issue)

2012-06-15 Thread Tim Waugh
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 09:30 +0200, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > Fedora still has quite strict printing policies even if users choose > to be a part of Administrator group during installation still need to > input passwords while changing even the minor printer settings (like > unpausing

Re: Revelation password manager issue

2012-06-15 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:24:20AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 17:21 +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 07:40 -0500, Josh Bressers wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I suspect this is going to be a weird problem to figure out. > > > > > > Relevation pas

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-15 Thread Eric Smith
Jesse Keating wrote: The point in which you find yourself arguing over the semantics of Goodwin's law is also a clear indication that the thread has lost any amount of usefulness. Godwin's Meta-Law? Or maybe Keating's Corollary to Godwin's Law? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject

Re: ARM is a dead end

2012-06-15 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > Hi, > > I've been pointed to a news item about a (apparently the first) x86 > (Atom) > based smartphone: > http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/14/orange-san-diego-review/ > > So even smartphones are going x86 now. It looks like x86 is going to > defeat > ARM just like i

Re: ARM is a dead end

2012-06-15 Thread Simone Caronni
On 15 June 2012 01:57, Kevin Kofler wrote: > So I would urge Fedora not to waste our time on a low-end architecture > filling a temporary niche which will become obsolete as demand for > performance increases. We should rather support only one primary > architecture (x86, i.e.: x86_64, and legacy

Escalation - better desktop printing policy (over two years old issue)

2012-06-15 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Hi, Fedora still has quite strict printing policies even if users choose to be a part of Administrator group during installation still need to input passwords while changing even the minor printer settings (like unpausing). This is still an issue on Fedora 16 and 17, is has been in bugzilla for ove

Re: ARM is a dead end

2012-06-15 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 01:57:18AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> So I would urge Fedora not to waste our time on a low-end architecture >> filling a temporary niche which will become obsolete as demand for >> performance increases. We sho

Re: ARM is a dead end

2012-06-15 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Hi, > > I've been pointed to a news item about a (apparently the first) x86 (Atom) > based smartphone: > http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/14/orange-san-diego-review/ > > So even smartphones are going x86 now. It looks like x86 is going to defe

Re: ARM is a dead end

2012-06-15 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 6:42 AM, tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote: > > [...] > > Linux is about choices No it isn't: http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.html (I do disagree with Kevin though). -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedora