Re: Fedora 18 Beta to slip by two weeks, Beta release date is now Nov 27

2012-11-20 Thread tim.laurid...@gmail.com
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > I was kinda hoping to just let that die a quiet death, but since this > thread has been thoroughly revived - I would've worded it differently if > I'd thought about it at all, and I'm sorry for that, it was a silly way > to put things. That

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2012-11-21)

2012-11-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC (1:00pm EDT, 19:00 CEST) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #973 "raising warning flag

[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!

2012-11-20 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 18 schedule [1], Fedora 18 Beta Release Candidate 1 (RC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including changes, can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5349#comment:31 . Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and te

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread drago01
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 21:31 +0100, drago01 wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> > The cycle is weekly by policy - we don't do one-day slips... >> >> That's just makes us less flexible for hardly any gain

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Bill Nottingham
Kaleb Keithley (kkeit...@redhat.com) said: > > Friday is a normal work day for most people (although some people will take > > it > > off to get a longer weekend :)) > > You know it's a Red Hat paid holiday, right? Sure, but even among those who may have the day off, I suspect they're more lik

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 09:31:09PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > > > > The cycle is weekly by policy - we don't do one-day slips... > > > > That's just makes us less flexible for hardly any gain if any. >

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:58:07PM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > My recollection (I believe that jkeating proposed this policy so he can > correct me if I'm misremembering anything) is that the days of the week that > we can release on is determined by what works best for mirrors. Tuesdays > and

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 09:31:09PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > The cycle is weekly by policy - we don't do one-day slips... > > That's just makes us less flexible for hardly any gain if any. > My recollection (I believe that jkeating prop

Re: raising warning flag on firewalld-default feature

2012-11-20 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 11/20/2012 01:39 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: " Interpreters do not preclude simple data: they just scale better, from simple linear declarative data to complex, Turing-cranking swamp. The problem is that, this design makes complex things possible but it doesn't do enough to keep simple things

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 21:31 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > The cycle is weekly by policy - we don't do one-day slips... > > That's just makes us less flexible for hardly any gain if any. It's not my policy, I just stated what it is. -- Ada

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread drago01
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > The cycle is weekly by policy - we don't do one-day slips... That's just makes us less flexible for hardly any gain if any. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 21:16 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 21:06 +0100, drago01 wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Adam Williamson > >> wrote: > >> > On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 11:15 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > >> >>

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Kaleb Keithley
From: "Ric Wheeler" > > Friday is a normal work day for most people (although some people will take > it > off to get a longer weekend :)) You know it's a Red Hat paid holiday, right? -- Kaleb -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listi

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread drago01
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 21:06 +0100, drago01 wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 11:15 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:14:08AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 11/20/2012 03:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 21:06 +0100, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 11:15 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:14:08AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Btw. Thanksgiving co

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 21:06 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 11:15 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:14:08AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > >> > Btw. Thanksgiving conflict is known, but we decided not

Re: Fedora 18 Beta to slip by two weeks, Beta release date is now Nov 27

2012-11-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 12:36 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 11/18/2012 04:19 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Oh by the way: > > > > Adam Williamson wrote: > >> Meanwhile, our trusty European punctuation-less shit-stirrer (sound > >> familiar, anyone?) is still saying we suck if we can't support mi

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread drago01
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 11:15 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:14:08AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> > Btw. Thanksgiving conflict is known, but we decided not to move >> > Go/No-Go to Wednesday because of limited tim

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/20/2012 11:15 AM, Peter Jones wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:14:08AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> Btw. Thanksgiving conflict is known, but we decided not to move Go/No-Go >> to Wednesday because of limited time for testing, let me know i

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 11:15 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:14:08AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > Btw. Thanksgiving conflict is known, but we decided not to move > > Go/No-Go to Wednesday because of limited time for testing, let me > > know in case of (strong) objections.

Re: raising warning flag on firewalld-default feature

2012-11-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi " Interpreters do not preclude simple data: they just scale better, from simple linear declarative data to complex, Turing-cranking swamp. The only argument against it is runtime overhead, which isn't a problem in many, if not most, cases." The problem is that, this design makes complex things

Re: Heads up: rpm 4.11 alpha coming soon to rawhide near you

2012-11-20 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 11/20/2012 07:45 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Panu Matilainen >> > > >> wrote: >> >> >> Now that FESCo accepted >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**__Fea

[perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables/f17] New upstream

2012-11-20 Thread Rüdiger Landmann
commit f2d981c00b39ac11a4e5e6d0dfec728f944fef5e Author: Ruediger Landmann Date: Wed Nov 21 04:23:00 2012 +1000 New upstream .gitignore|1 + RT-74392.patch| 21 + col_0_fix.patch

File HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables-0.02.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by rlandmann

2012-11-20 Thread Rüdiger Landmann
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables: 804146aa9e49a5b1af4f63fecd9b0c28 HTML-FormatText-WithLinks-AndTables-0.02.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedor

Re: Heads up: rpm 4.11 alpha coming soon to rawhide near you

2012-11-20 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/20/2012 07:45 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Panu Matilainen mailto:pmati...@laiskiainen.org>> wrote: Now that FESCo accepted http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/__Features/RPM4.11 for F19... (in what mig

Re: raising warning flag on firewalld-default feature

2012-11-20 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 11/17/2012 12:26 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Przemek Klosowski wrote: Remember also that data is code: any config files could be seen as tiny specialized interpreted languages, so it's not like you can avoid interpretation anyway. That's a bad view of things, it leads to WTFs like PolicyKit usi

[perl-local-lib] Fix dependencies and modernize the spec

2012-11-20 Thread Petr Šabata
commit d667476d99785af5f4959a6b77af6cb19f1d35ba Author: Petr Šabata Date: Tue Nov 20 18:50:40 2012 +0100 Fix dependencies and modernize the spec perl-local-lib.spec | 38 -- 1 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-loca

Re: Heads up: rpm 4.11 alpha coming soon to rawhide near you

2012-11-20 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > Now that FESCo accepted > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**Features/RPM4.11for > F19... (in what might well be a record time - less than a minute in the > meeting from proposal to acceptanc

[perl-Mozilla-LDAP] Corrected upstream source URLs

2012-11-20 Thread Nathan Kinder
commit f463f99b22ca0ba0823f18602fc508d477c226b5 Author: Nathan Kinder Date: Tue Nov 20 09:39:26 2012 -0800 Corrected upstream source URLs perl-Mozilla-LDAP.spec |9 ++--- 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Mozilla-LDAP.spec b/perl-Mozilla-LDAP.s

Re: Fedora 18 Beta to slip by two weeks, Beta release date is now Nov 27

2012-11-20 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 11/18/2012 04:19 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Oh by the way: Adam Williamson wrote: Meanwhile, our trusty European punctuation-less shit-stirrer (sound familiar, anyone?) is still saying we suck if we can't support minimal memory installs, and we should be better than 'winbloze': https://lists.f

[perl-Locale-Codes] Bump release

2012-11-20 Thread Petr Šabata
commit 1935a0d2d89ebde58290f092ff9d9af1aaa373ed Author: Petr Šabata Date: Tue Nov 20 17:37:48 2012 +0100 Bump release perl-Locale-Codes.spec |4 ++-- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Locale-Codes.spec b/perl-Locale-Codes.spec index bf393bf..d8c023

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:14:08AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > Btw. Thanksgiving conflict is known, but we decided not to move > > Go/No-Go to Wednesday because of limited time for testing, let me > > know in case of (strong) objections. > > I really think havi

[perl-Locale-Codes] Add missing deps

2012-11-20 Thread Petr Šabata
commit 69d51ebb4d78eb472839ccdaf7437b55c4e42dcf Author: Petr Šabata Date: Tue Nov 20 17:16:20 2012 +0100 Add missing deps perl-Locale-Codes.spec | 21 + 1 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Locale-Codes.spec b/perl-Locale-Codes.spec

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Peter Jones
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:14:08AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Btw. Thanksgiving conflict is known, but we decided not to move > Go/No-Go to Wednesday because of limited time for testing, let me > know in case of (strong) objections. I really think having this meeting during the second largest

[Bug 877951] Upgrade to new upstream version

2012-11-20 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora EPEL https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877951 Massimo Paladin changed: What|Removed |Added CC||massimo.pala...@gm

F-18 Branched report: 20121120 changes

2012-11-20 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Nov 20 09:15:33 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [dhcp-forwarder] dhcp-forwarder-upstart-0.10-1801.fc18.noarch requires /sbin/initctl [dragonegg] dragonegg-3.1-8.fc18.x86_64 requires gcc = 0:4.7.2-3.fc

[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-20 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for this important meeting, wherein we shall determine the readiness of the Fedora 18 Beta. Thursday, November 22, 2012 @20:00 UTC (15:00 EST/12:00 PST/21:00 CET) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine