Re: BuildRequires for texlive stuff for F18 and beyond

2013-01-26 Thread Jindrich Novy
Hi Jonathan, On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:05:47PM +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > Dear All, > > I have various packages that use (La)TeX to generate documentation at > package build time. In the past, this was usually handled fine with a > BuildRequires: tex(latex) which would bring in enough of

Re: Making rygel build in rawhide

2013-01-26 Thread Krzesimir Nowak
2013/1/26 Nathaniel McCallum > Could someone apply this patch to rygel so at least we can get a > successful build? > http://git.gnome.org/browse/rygel/commit/?h=wip/new-gupnp-dlna&id=118af0f588879703e0dd7d01787897b5893032e0 > > That won't do. Gupnp-dlna 0.9.4 has to hit rawhide first. Then inste

Re: BuildRequires for texlive stuff for F18 and beyond

2013-01-26 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sex, 2013-01-25 at 12:56 -0800, Benjamin De Kosnik wrote: > > > [...] > > > With the more fine grained texlive packaging in F>18 where > > > tex(latex) is provided by texlive-collection-latex I am finding > > > that this is insufficient to build most documents. I see two > > > options in these

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-26 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 26 janvier 2013 à 06:21 +, Matthew Garrett a écrit : > On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 02:16:29AM +0100, Michael Scherer wrote: > > > Well, slightly bit longer is around 2 to 3h vs 2 to 3 minutes. And I > > already did version upgrade taking 6 to 8h due to slow internet or slow > > hard driv

Re: BuildRequires for texlive stuff for F18 and beyond

2013-01-26 Thread Paulo César Pereira de Andrade
2013/1/26 Sérgio Basto : > On Sex, 2013-01-25 at 12:56 -0800, Benjamin De Kosnik wrote: >> > > [...] >> > > With the more fine grained texlive packaging in F>18 where >> > > tex(latex) is provided by texlive-collection-latex I am finding >> > > that this is insufficient to build most documents. I s

Re: Shall we modify '-g' to '-g3' to have gcc save the macro info?

2013-01-26 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qua, 2013-01-16 at 15:36 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 02:26:00PM +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:12:29 +0100, xning wrote: > > > Shall we should modify '-g' to '-g3' to have gcc save the macro > > > info? So when we install *-debuginfo packages,

Re: Shall we modify '-g' to '-g3' to have gcc save the macro info?

2013-01-26 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sáb, 2013-01-26 at 13:13 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Qua, 2013-01-16 at 15:36 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 02:26:00PM +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:12:29 +0100, xning wrote: > > > > Shall we should modify '-g' to '-g3' to have gcc save

Re: rawhide report: 20130125 changes

2013-01-26 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Kevin Fenzi wrote, at 01/26/2013 02:34 PM +9:00: Another week, another broken stuff in rawhide... ... ... After harfbuzz is fixed, someone should go through and rebuild all those things blocked on it. ;) kevin I fixed harfbuzz build. harfbuzz-0.9.12-3.fc19 got built successfully, which sho

Re: rawhide report: 20130125 changes

2013-01-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 23:36:53 +0900, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: I fixed harfbuzz build. harfbuzz-0.9.12-3.fc19 got built successfully, which should appear on F-19 buildroot soon. Thanks. wfut has now been rebuilt. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.

Re: icu 50 soname bump

2013-01-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 03:35:58PM -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote: > FYI - Looks like icu 50 landed in rawhide today with the usual soname bump Also breaks boost in the buildroot: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=4904621&name=root.log Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group

Re: icu 50 soname bump

2013-01-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 03:35:58PM -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> FYI - Looks like icu 50 landed in rawhide today with the usual soname bump > > Also breaks boost in the buildroot: > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 24, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Well, that's the problem. Most of our users (including many of the > professional sysadmins) are *not* able to make a fully informed choice > about whether an online upgrade will ensure that they're no longer > running any code with kno

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:20 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > William Brown writes: > >> In the future, hopefully once btrfs is a bit more mature, perhaps it >> could be considered to make a new writable snapshot subvolume of the >> system, and the use yum prefix to update the new subvolume. When you >

Re: BuildRequires for texlive stuff for F18 and beyond

2013-01-26 Thread Jindrich Novy
Hi Jonathan, On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:05:47PM +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > Dear All, > > I have various packages that use (La)TeX to generate documentation at > package build time. In the past, this was usually handled fine with a > BuildRequires: tex(latex) which would bring in enough of

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-26 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 26 Jan 2013, at 12:11, Chris Murphy wrote: After 1/2 dozen fedup upgrades during testing, on average the downtime portion of the upgrade was between 25 and 40 minutes. On a five year old laptop, with 4GB of RAM, and WDC Scorpio Blue rust drive (the new computer with SSD did the fedup up

Re: icu 50 soname bump

2013-01-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 03:59:25PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 03:35:58PM -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote: > >> FYI - Looks like icu 50 landed in rawhide today with the usual soname bump > > > > Also breaks boos

Re: icu 50 soname bump

2013-01-26 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Orion Poplawski wrote, at 01/26/2013 07:35 AM +9:00: FYI - Looks like icu 50 landed in rawhide today with the usual soname bump Looks like several packages fails to build against new icu, with errors like: /builddir/build/BUILD/calligra-2.5.93/libs/db/drivers/sqlite/icu/icu.c:375: undefined r

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Mike Pinkerton wrote: > > If a fedup upgrade can go offline for a lengthy, but uncertain, amount of > time, then the lack of feedback is worrying. You can't hold your breath for > 25 minutes, you don't know when to conclude that you have a serious problem > that

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 26.01.2013 19:09, schrieb Chris Murphy: >> I just don't see how it's best practices to be doing updates on live >> processes. This seems sorta like a game to find out just how much one can >> cheat the upgrade process before the shi

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.01.2013 18:00, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot: > > Le Ven 25 janvier 2013 00:12, Lennart Poettering a écrit : >> Applications have deps on all kinds of >> data in /usr/lib, not just shared libraries. Such as locale data, icons, >> fonts, artwork, documentation. > > BTW Firefox seems to be the o

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.01.2013 18:57, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > Just to be clear, RHEL != Fedora. Red Hat policy for RHEL kernel is not > acceptable to Fedora and Fedora kernel > continues to have the patches split out. You cannot use that to defend MySQL > policies here. You can do whatever > you want to d

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.01.2013 19:20, schrieb Lennart Poettering: >> Nonsense, for a distribution upgrade you just recommend the admin to >> reboot the system when done. >> Everybody expects to reboot after a big distro-sync anyway as there is a >> new kernel and basically new-everything. > > Ah, so you have to

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.01.2013 21:17, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > On 01/25/2013 07:39 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> I use Fedora as a server system for my daily developer work. I use >> many services with different configurations. Actually updating it with >> preupgrade/fedup is sometimes hard. Reinstallin

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Reindl Harald > > if there is no way to have both, mysqld AND mariadb Fedora > should do itself a favour and keep mysqld, not for now - > forever or as long not most other software supports mariadb > explicitly which is not the case now > It is very much poss

stop service ; remove some files ; start service in RPM %postun ?

2013-01-26 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
I have an rpm package where I need to stop the running service, remove some files and start the service again depending on which package version was already installed. I assume I need to do this in %postun, where we normally do condrestart, but I don't know how to check the version of the previousl

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.01.2013 19:59, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Reindl Harald > if there is no way to have both, mysqld AND mariadb Fedora > should do itself a favour and keep mysqld, not for now - > forever or as long not most other software supports mariadb > exp

Re: stop service ; remove some files ; start service in RPM %postun ?

2013-01-26 Thread Paul Howarth
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:17:14 +0100 Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: > I have an rpm package where I need to stop the running service, remove > some files and start the service again depending on which package > version was already installed. Perhaps %triggerpostun? http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US

Re: rawhide report: 20130125 changes

2013-01-26 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On 1/25/13, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Hey node.js people. Can you please fix these up? This should be fixed early next week. Two of the missing deps are already under review, and if somebody wants to take the last one I can do a review in kind. >> [node-gyp] node-gyp-0.8.2-3.fc19.noarch requires npm

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi > a operating systemd / distribution should not built for it's > own with the attitude "what does us bother software outside our > repos"? > > this NIH syndrome is very very bad > Both MySQL and MariaDB is available and neither was invented here and either can be used as per your preference.

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-26 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 25 janvier 2013 à 19:05 +0100, Reindl Harald a écrit : > > Am 25.01.2013 18:57, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > > Just to be clear, RHEL != Fedora. Red Hat policy for RHEL kernel is not > > acceptable to Fedora and Fedora kernel > > continues to have the patches split out. You cannot use

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-26 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 26 Jan 2013, at 13:09, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Mike Pinkerton wrote: If a fedup upgrade can go offline for a lengthy, but uncertain, amount of time, then the lack of feedback is worrying. You can't hold your breath for 25 minutes, you don't know when to con

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 19:05 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 25.01.2013 18:57, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > > Just to be clear, RHEL != Fedora. Red Hat policy for RHEL kernel > is not acceptable to Fedora and Fedora kernel > > continues to have the patches split out. You cannot use that to > def

Re: Making rygel build in rawhide

2013-01-26 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
The attached patches upgrade gupnp-dlna to 0.9.4 and fix the rygel 0.17.7 build. Please apply to get people working again. I have also emailed the typo fix patch upstream. I've attached it here for convenience. It would be nice if upstream rygel didn't require us to strip rpath after the build.

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-26 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 26 janvier 2013 à 15:20 -0500, Mike Pinkerton a écrit : > On 26 Jan 2013, at 13:09, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Mike Pinkerton > > wrote: > >> > >> If you could SSH into fedup during its "offline" period and get > >> real time feedback about what it is do

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Sat, 2013-01-26 at 21:34 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 26.01.2013 21:24, schrieb Pierre-Yves Chibon: > >> but keep in mind that Fedora is the base for RHEL > >> applications may be certified for mysql > > > > And that is Fedora's problem how? > > and THAT is the problem with many pieces

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.01.2013 21:14, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > a operating systemd / distribution should not built for it's > own with the attitude "what does us bother software outside our > repos"? > > this NIH syndrome is very very bad > Both MySQL and MariaDB is available and neither was inv

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.01.2013 21:24, schrieb Pierre-Yves Chibon: >> but keep in mind that Fedora is the base for RHEL >> applications may be certified for mysql > > And that is Fedora's problem how? and THAT is the problem with many pieces of fedora-development the last few years - what do we care for the rea

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-26 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/26/2013 08:42 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Sat, 2013-01-26 at 21:34 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 26.01.2013 21:24, schrieb Pierre-Yves Chibon: but keep in mind that Fedora is the base for RHEL applications may be certified for mysql And that is Fedora's problem how? and THAT is th

Re: icu 50 soname bump

2013-01-26 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Mamoru, On Sunday, 2013-01-27 03:09:22 +0900, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: > >FYI - Looks like icu 50 landed in rawhide today with the usual soname bump > > Looks like several packages fails to build against new icu, with > errors like: > > /builddir/build/BUILD/calligra-2.5.93/libs/db/drivers/sqlit

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-26 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On Jan 25, 2013 3:45 PM, "Marcela Mašláňová" wrote: > > On 01/25/2013 12:17 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 23:03 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> >>> It's best to rip the bandage of this in one release. >>> >>> The churn from this should have been more or less cover

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-26 Thread Oron Peled
On Wednesday 23 January 2013 23:49:48 Kay Sievers wrote: > ... > We had no better idea really, than to copy the successful model we do > for disks (and other subsystems) with /dev/disk/by-*/ symlinks. It was > a well-known scheme, but it was certainly not know for network devices > so far. So we pi

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-26 Thread Pavel Alexeev
25.01.2013 22:27, Lennart Poettering пишет: On Fri, 25.01.13 13:02, Przemek Klosowski (przemek.klosow...@nist.gov) wrote: On 01/24/2013 06:12 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: If you restart any of those you bring down the entire machine basically, or bring down at least the bits you really want t

Re: rawhide report: 20130126 changes

2013-01-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Rebuilt by me: [389-adminutil] [389-ds-base] [R] [templates_parser] [aws] [dwdiff] [fcitx] [flush] [fmt-ptrn] [pion-net] [fatrat] [gridsite] [calibre] [webkitgtk] Failed (many icu flags thing: bug 856594) [389-admin] - http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4904943 [389-dsgw] - http:

Re: icu 50 soname bump

2013-01-26 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Eike Rathke wrote, at 01/27/2013 08:02 AM +9:00: Hi Mamoru, On Sunday, 2013-01-27 03:09:22 +0900, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: FYI - Looks like icu 50 landed in rawhide today with the usual soname bump Looks like several packages fails to build against new icu, with errors like: /builddir/build/BUI

Re: drop inheritance at f19 branch point?

2013-01-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 05:49:25 + (UTC) Ben Boeckel wrote: > Looking at this, how about a simple rule about what makes a fedpkg > build cascade up: While the next higher branch has the same version, > but older pre-dist release number, merge --ff-only and trigger a > build if one is not created

Re: icu 50 soname bump

2013-01-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:30:22 +0900 Mamoru TASAKA wrote: > Looks like patching against /usr/include/unicode/urename.h is more > appropriate. I wrote some comments on bug 856594. If that saves adding workarounds to a bunch of packages seems like the better solution. kevin signature.asc Descrip

Re: drop inheritance at f19 branch point?

2013-01-26 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 01/25/2013 10:49 PM, Ben Boeckel wrote: Looking at this, how about a simple rule about what makes a fedpkg build cascade up: While the next higher branch has the same version, but older pre-dist release number, merge --ff-only and trigger a build if one is not created within an hour of the cur

Re: drop inheritance at f19 branch point?

2013-01-26 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 19:48:25 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Seems complex. For the logic, the delay part, or a likely implementation? > Would it run on the client or on the server side? I was thinking server side at first, but maybe we could have fedpkg detect this and ask if it's wanted when t

Re: rawhide report: 20130126 changes

2013-01-26 Thread Rich Mattes
On 01/26/2013 08:51 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Failed (many icu flags thing: bug 856594) ... [fawkes] - http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=4905075 Graphviz's API changed, I'm working on a fix for Fawkes now. Then I had to leave and didn't get time to look at these: ... [player] lib

Re: BuildRequires for texlive stuff for F18 and beyond

2013-01-26 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:59 AM, Jindrich Novy wrote: > Example pdflatex error in log - style missing: > > ! LaTeX Error: File `upquote.sty' not found. > > Type X to quit or to proceed, > or enter new name. (Default extension: sty) > > > solution: > > # yum install 'tex(upquote.sty)