Jan Zelený píše v St 30. 01. 2013 v 08:22 +0100:
> On 29. 1. 2013 at 19:18:32, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
> > > On 28. 1. 2013 at 14:28:06, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > >> Michael Scherer (m...@zarb.org) said:
> > >> > Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 15:
On 29. 1. 2013 at 19:18:32, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
> > On 28. 1. 2013 at 14:28:06, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >> Michael Scherer (m...@zarb.org) said:
> >> > Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 15:27 +0100, Jan Zelený a écrit :
> >> > > Currently we are wor
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:27 AM, drago01 wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Sandro Mani wrote:
>>
>> Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way that the
>> download button points to something similar to the current "More options"
>> page, maybe with a small descripti
> Firstly, some admins may be bound to mysql because of the certification
or similar reason, but it probably won't be a technical reason. It'd be
nice if admins work with providers in such cases and push them to add
mariadb into set of "supported" options. I believe there won't be technical
barrier
On Jan 29, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> I don't know, but I'm not sure how you have a UEFI install reading the
> grub.cfg in /boot/grub2?
*sigh* Yet Another Happy Day in UEFI and GRUB Land.
The Fedora prebaked grubx64.efi doesn't include all GRUB modules (e.g. lvm,
xnu) and it
On 01/29/2013 04:59 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> I don't disagree with the "more research and reason" part, but the
> current default desktop has only been "our default" for four releases,
> F15 through F18. I don't recall any serious "research and reason"
> having been involved in the switch that occu
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:58:30 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) said:
>> If I understand right, there is not guarantee
>> "em1" would become "eno1" in 100% of cases. Iptables saved config
>> would still need to be checked and verified.
>
> It won't, but having i
On Tue, 29.01.13 14:17, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:06 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > Am 29.01.2013 16:55, schrieb Bryn M. Reeves:
> > > Again, unless you have very different storage controllers this will not
> > > break.
> > >
> > > I really don't wan
How about doing a Cinnamon Spin at least for F19?
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On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 18:01 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > I've installed a few kernels with both grubby-8.20-1 and 8.22-1 and the
> > problem consistently occurs with both of them.
> >
> > Do I reopen the bug, or file a new one?
>
> OK I
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 06:57:29PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> >> that are built at kernel build time? the issue with building it at
>> >> build time was making sure we knew exactly what sourcs we needed to
>> >> ship to match all the binari
On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> I've installed a few kernels with both grubby-8.20-1 and 8.22-1 and the
> problem consistently occurs with both of them.
>
> Do I reopen the bug, or file a new one?
OK I see the problem, I think.
For grub.cfg in /boot/grub2/ then grubby u
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=895543
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On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 06:57:29PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> >> that are built at kernel build time? the issue with building it at
> >> build time was making sure we knew exactly what sourcs we needed to
> >> ship to match all the binaries in the initramfs. the initramfs's we
> >> build and ship a
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 05:22:00PM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:32:12 +
> Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 09:53:32AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > > as legal has said we cannot pregenerate initramfses i think this
> > > should be a non-starter.
>
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
>> > Realistically, it's new textual files, replacing old textual files, which
>> > are then compiled into a binary file. I'm not sure why there's the
>> > intermediate step of a second textual format, but
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:53:00 -0500
Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 05:22:00PM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > > We already ship several pre-generated initramfses.
> > that are built at kernel build time? the issue with building it at
> > build time was making sure we knew exactly
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 05:22:00PM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
>> > We already ship several pre-generated initramfses.
>> that are built at kernel build time? the issue with building it at
>> build time was making sure we knew exactly what
On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>> I'd go for grubby. This sounds vaguely familiar, though - try searching
>> bugzilla for 'initrdefi' first, to see if there's an existing report.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 05:22:00PM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > We already ship several pre-generated initramfses.
> that are built at kernel build time? the issue with building it at
> build time was making sure we knew exactly what sourcs we needed to
> ship to match all the binaries in the i
On Jan 29, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> I'd go for grubby. This sounds vaguely familiar, though - try searching
> bugzilla for 'initrdefi' first, to see if there's an existing report.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859285
Closed as fixed in 8.20-1.fc18.
At the time
Reading the topic about Cinnamon as Default Desktop.
For my view, Cinnamon is nothing more than a heavily tweaked Gnome Shell
based on reactive feeling. It only duplicated the effort already covered
by Gnome development.
Issue like nautilus removal of some functionality could be resolved by
cre
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 16:29 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Is it the responsibility of grubby, or the kernel rpm, when writing
> out an updated grub.cfg, to include initrdefi? And are these commands
> applicable on all (U)EFI?
>
>
> After updating an EFI booting Mac to 3.7.4-204, I get a brief mess
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Is it the responsibility of grubby, or the kernel rpm, when writing out an
> updated grub.cfg, to include initrdefi? And are these commands applicable on
> all (U)EFI?
Grubby. All the kernel rpm does is call new-kernel-pkg (which is
provided
Is it the responsibility of grubby, or the kernel rpm, when writing out an
updated grub.cfg, to include initrdefi? And are these commands applicable on
all (U)EFI?
After updating an EFI booting Mac to 3.7.4-204, I get a brief message from GRUB
saying that the kernel must be loaded first, then a
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:32:12 +
Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 09:53:32AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > as legal has said we cannot pregenerate initramfses i think this
> > should be a non-starter.
>
> We already ship several pre-generated initramfses.
>
that are built
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 20:20 +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:07:55 -0500
> john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
>
> > > From: Martin Sivak
> > > the tool will be started using systemd unit file which can be
> > > disabled. It will have to be explicit (even minimal install needs
> > > u
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 23:52 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote:
> > And then we wonder why MATE and Cinnamon got the most press coverage
> > in Fedora 18 and why there has been a huge user spike in the last 30
> > days. It hasn't been because of systemd, Gnome 3.6, and Anaconda 18.
> > You are on seriou
Dear Dan,
Le mardi 29 janvier 2013 à 04:13 -0800, Dan Mashal a écrit :
> Now I know that we are both biased here, however what it really feels
> like here is REDHAT
If I may interrupt you, that's written in 2 words, Red Hat. Not wanting
to deviate from your discourse with my rambling about the
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> G.Wolfe Woodbury (redwo...@gmail.com) said:
>> > The kernel nowadays comes with built-in support for the vast majority of
>> > all common storage hardware anyway, because AHCI is pretty universally
>> > established. Outside of servers non-
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 15:47 -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
> So far I just skipped firstboot by using tricks, like telling it I was
> going to configure a network server and then just canceling. But it
> would be nicer if I could simply skip it.
Current firstboot does not run if you boot to anything be
Avesh Agarwal (avaga...@redhat.com) said:
> >Right now it is done using wpa_supplicant provided cli.
>
> Just to clarify a little bit further, wpa_supplicant provided cli
> takes care of authentication and tnc's end point assessment. Once it
> is done, NM or network scripts takes care of setting u
G.Wolfe Woodbury (redwo...@gmail.com) said:
> > The kernel nowadays comes with built-in support for the vast majority of
> > all common storage hardware anyway, because AHCI is pretty universally
> > established. Outside of servers non-AHCI controllers practically don't
> > exist anymore.
>
> Thi
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:06 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Am 29.01.2013 16:55, schrieb Bryn M. Reeves:
> > Again, unless you have very different storage controllers this will not
> > break.
> >
> > I really don't want or need every FC HBA kernel module, firmware bin file
> > or other junk in my l
On 01/28/2013 09:56 AM, inode0 wrote:
After four releases it isn't bad to step back and take a look at how
things are working out. I hope we can do that with an eye to where we
want to go in the future rather than looking to the past.
I couldn't have said it better. I'm much more concerned ab
On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> Much of the time is saved in the bootloader, since the initrd imager is
> now much shorter the boot loader will require muss less time to read it
> into memory. systemd-analyze won't show you this data (unless you run a
> git version and
Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
> > Realistically, it's new textual files, replacing old textual files, which
> > are then compiled into a binary file. I'm not sure why there's the
> > intermediate step of a second textual format, but there is.
>
> Because the original text file is a hack and a
On 01/29/2013 12:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 14:53 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
Feature owner(s): Eric Smith
Just some input on a few things that have been rai
On 01/28/2013 09:27 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
The gnome desktop certainly isn't perfect but I see a lot more users
using it than most of the rest of the other options.
That's selection bias. It's the default, so of course it's going to get
more users. That doesn't necessarily mean that they
On 01/29/2013 01:18 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> The kernel nowadays comes with built-in support for the vast majority of
> all common storage hardware anyway, because AHCI is pretty universally
> established. Outside of servers non-AHCI controllers practically don't
> exist anymore.
This is
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:15 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> * Add new firstboot-type questions to the second hub (dependent on the
> firstboot work, which is another feature).
Per my questions on the 'new firstboot' feature, this is one that hits
my radar screen. The key function of firstboo
On 01/29/2013 05:25 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
Lets have a poll. A very public one.
On the main website. Not somebody's blog. And let's let the users
decide what they want.
I'll tell you what, last time I checked #1 spin is KDE.
I like that idea. It's ultimately up to FESCo to decide, but a po
On 01/28/2013 08:47 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
I think switching the desktop that has been our default for over 10
years and 18 releases requires just a bit more research and reason
than that. ~m
I don't disagree with the "more research and reason" part, but the
current default desktop has only
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 11:02 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > GLIBC 2.17 was released at the end of 2012; we have been closely tracking
> > the
> > GLIBC 2.17 development code in Fedora Rawhide and addressing any issues as
> > they arise.
>
> The __secure_getenv to secure_getenv renaming need to
On Tue, 29.01.13 14:06, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote:
> Am 29.01.2013 16:55, schrieb Bryn M. Reeves:
> > Again, unless you have very different storage controllers this will not
> > break.
> >
> > I really don't want or need every FC HBA kernel module, firmware bin file
> > or ot
Am 29.01.2013 20:47, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>
> On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Am 29.01.2013 20:30, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
grub2 in fedora is simply broken in this case
https://bugzilla.redh
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:13 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 01/29/2013 01:38 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > On 01/27/2013 03:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> >> = Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
> >>
> >> Featu
Am 29.01.2013 16:55, schrieb Bryn M. Reeves:
> Again, unless you have very different storage controllers this will not break.
>
> I really don't want or need every FC HBA kernel module, firmware bin file or
> other junk in my laptop initramfs
> "just in case" I happen to swap the disk to a laptop
On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Eberhard Schruefer
wrote:
> I'm seeing kworker using up around 80% CPU time constantly and the laptop is
> running hot.
>
This is in cases when you expect the system to be idle? i.e. no disk access, no
active processes running, or network activity? Or is there s
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
>> The hwdb is drop-in directory based, which means:
>> - additionally installed data overwrites shipped data
>> - stuff with the same file name in /etc/ disables stuff in /usr/lib/
>>
>> Users can just
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:28 -0500, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
> Stijn Hoop wrote on 01/29/2013 14:20:50:
>
> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:07:55 -0500
> > john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
> >
> > > > From: Martin Sivak
> > > > the tool will be started using systemd unit file which can be
> > > > disa
On 01/29/2013 12:31 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Alec Leamas
wrote:
Please don't top-post [1]
[1]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#If_You_Are_Replying_to_a_Message
It's amusing that it doesn't explain why. It just says don't do it.
Top posti
On 01/29/2013 03:16 PM, Avesh Agarwal wrote:
On 01/29/2013 03:11 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Avesh Agarwal (avaga...@redhat.com) said:
Is this intended to be integrated into NetworkManager?
There is no such plan with this feature as right now the focus is to
get the functionality right, but thi
>> > = Features/ High Availability Container Resources =
>> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/High_Availability_Container_Resources
>> >
>> > Feature owner(s): David Vossel
>> >
>> > The Container Resources feature allows the HA stack (Pacemaker +
>> > Corosync)
>> > residing on a host mac
On 01/29/2013 03:11 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Avesh Agarwal (avaga...@redhat.com) said:
Is this intended to be integrated into NetworkManager?
There is no such plan with this feature as right now the focus is to
get the functionality right, but this is something that may be done
in future fedo
Avesh Agarwal (avaga...@redhat.com) said:
> >Is this intended to be integrated into NetworkManager?
>
> There is no such plan with this feature as right now the focus is to
> get the functionality right, but this is something that may be done
> in future fedora releases.
Given that NM is the netw
On 01/29/2013 03:01 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said:
= Features/Trusted Network Connect (TNC) =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Trusted_Network_Connect_%28TNC%29
Feature owner(s): Avesh Agarwal
This feature provides Trusted Network Connect(TNC) fra
On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>
> Is this actually useful if anaconda doesn't set up the system to use the
> thinp pool to begin with? (Because it doesn't.)
And should it? Last time I looked thinp LVs were considered experimental, I
guess that was last May. Has this chan
Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
> The hwdb is drop-in directory based, which means:
> - additionally installed data overwrites shipped data
> - stuff with the same file name in /etc/ disables stuff in /usr/lib/
>
> Users can just install update packages, or add their own files, which
> will
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said:
> = Features/Trusted Network Connect (TNC) =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Trusted_Network_Connect_%28TNC%29
>
> Feature owner(s): Avesh Agarwal
>
> This feature provides Trusted Network Connect(TNC) framework that can be used
> to assess
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> = Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase =
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase
>>
>> Feature owner(s): Kay Sievers
>>
>> The udevd service has a long histo
Am 29.01.2013 20:30, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>
> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>> grub2 in fedora is simply broken in this case
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882721
>
> So you've built grub2 from recent gnu.org source (Bazaar), and password
> protection
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=905112
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Ah, I did not realize this was a part of the formatl packaging spec too. I'll
look at raising that for discussion first, so guess this BZ can wait until
that's resolved.
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On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:30 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> This is interesting, in that it's a feature that's occasionally requested
> by various users and administrators. However, this is rather limited in
> that only systemd stuff is using it now, and it's tied to the journal API.
Actually, we
On Tue, 29.01.13 14:30, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote:
> Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said:
> > = Features/SystemdMessageCatalog =
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdMessageCatalog
> >
> > Feature owner(s): Lennart Poettering
> >
> > Logging is essential fo
Am 29.01.2013 19:48, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>
> On Jan 29, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
>> (I'm not sure if the new installer
>> even has an option for password-protecting grub2, offhand.)
>
> It doesn't. And this seems to be an area of confusion on the two grub lists
> for users
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=905112
--- Comment #2 from Steven Roberts ---
now putting on my co-maintainer hat for cpanspec...
cpanspec aims to make spec files that follwot the fedora perl packaging
guidelines.
So, I think your best first stop would be with the PE
On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 29.01.2013 20:30, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>>
>>> grub2 in fedora is simply broken in this case
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882721
>>
>> So you've built gr
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=905112
--- Comment #1 from Steven Roberts ---
I might have picked a nicer quote if you are trying to win support, but eh,
that's besides the point :).
I hadn't heard of metacpan.org before this. doesn't show up in any google
search I h
- Original Message -
> From: "Lennart Poettering"
> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Cc: devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org, "David Vossel"
>
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 4:10:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Proposed F19 Feature: High Availability Container Resources
>
> On Sun, 27.01
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said:
> = Features/YumFsSnapshotThinpSupport =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumFsSnapshotThinpSupport
>
> Feature owner(s): Ondrej Kozina , Mike Snitzer
>
>
> For the purposes of system rollback: Provide the ability to create a snapshot
> of
Am 29.01.2013 16:55, schrieb Bryn M. Reeves:
> Again, unless you have very different storage controllers this will not break.
>
> I really don't want or need every FC HBA kernel module, firmware bin file or
> other junk in my laptop initramfs
> "just in case" I happen to swap the disk to a lapt
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said:
> = Features/EnterpriseTwoFactorAuthentication =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EnterpriseTwoFactorAuthentication
>
> Feature owner(s): Daniel Pocock
>
> Provide a flexible solution for two-factor authentication on a distributed
> basis, su
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said:
> = Features/DracutHostOnly =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DracutHostOnly
>
> Feature owner(s): Harald Hoyer
>
> Only create "host-only" initramfs images. A generic fallback image should be
> installed by anaconda on installation/update a
On 01/29/2013 01:05 PM, Phil Knirsch wrote:
On 01/29/2013 05:57 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Jaroslav Reznik mailto:jrez...@redhat.com>> wrote:
= Features/PreUpgrade Assistant =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PreUpgrade_Assistant
Feature
On Tue, 29.01.13 20:07, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > = Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase =
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase
> >
> > Feature owner(s): Kay Sievers
> >
> > The udevd service has
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said:
> = Features/SystemdMessageCatalog =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdMessageCatalog
>
> Feature owner(s): Lennart Poettering
>
> Logging is essential for finding and tracking down system problems. Just
> finding
> and tracking them d
On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> grub2 in fedora is simply broken in this case
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882721
So you've built grub2 from recent gnu.org source (Bazaar), and password
protection works? Just the Fedora version is broken?
Chris Murphy
-
Stijn Hoop wrote on 01/29/2013 14:20:50:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:07:55 -0500
> john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
>
> > > From: Martin Sivak
> > > the tool will be started using systemd unit file which can be
> > > disabled. It will have to be explicit (even minimal install needs
> > > users or ro
Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) said:
> Some years ago all hardware data was moved out of various separate
> packages into the "hwdata" package (even if it meant moving it out of
> the original upstream source). The feature page doesn't even mention
> the hwdata package. AFAICS this
>
> 1) Dupli
On Tue, 29.01.13 04:13, Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) wrote:
> There could be different "flavors" of Gnome. Now I know that we are both
> biased here, however what it really feels like here is REDHAT
> employees want Gnome 3 and they are giving a bunch of bullshit excuses on
You know, Red Hat
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:07:55 -0500
john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
> > From: Martin Sivak
> > the tool will be started using systemd unit file which can be
> > disabled. It will have to be explicit (even minimal install needs
> > users or root password), but we can figure something out.
>
> In my
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 09:53 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> as legal has said we cannot pregenerate initramfses
Really? Why?
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On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:46:29PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> It might be worth considering that we keep the one special case and
> change the 'eno' prefix in udev to 'em'... this will help some.
Yes! Very much!
Not only will this practically easy things, it shifts the perception from
"And w
> From: Martin Sivak
> the tool will be started using systemd unit file which can be
> disabled. It will have to be explicit (even minimal install needs
> users or root password), but we can figure something out.
In my experience, root password is handled by the installer and firstboot
is not
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase
>
> Feature owner(s): Kay Sievers
>
> The udevd service has a long history of managing kernel devices. Besides
> generating events when
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said:
> * Make system-config-kickstart work again. The removal of
> iw/GroupSelector.py from anaconda caused it to break. (#859928)
Is this via replacing s-c-ks with anaconda itself, pulling the package
selection spoke into s-c-ks, or...?
Bill
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On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 18:38 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:32:30PM -0600, Dan Williams wrote:
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> > Except then you run into phones or WWAN cards that show up as Ethernet
> > devices, but aren't really Ethernet but just IP-in-8023-frames because
> > that was easier to d
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/433
https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/433/0001-Ticket-433-multiple-bugs-in-start-dirsrv-stop-dirsrv.patch
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:48:01 -0700
Chris Murphy wrote:
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> On Jan 29, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
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> > (I'm not sure if the new installer
> > even has an option for password-protecting grub2, offhand.)
>
> It doesn't. And this seems to be an area of confusion on the two grub
>
Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) said:
> > It might be worth considering that we keep the one special case and
> > change the 'eno' prefix in udev to 'em'... this will help some.
>
> This could be dangerous. If I understand right, there is not guarantee
> "em1" would become "eno1" in 100% o
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 13:45 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
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> On 01/29/2013 01:34 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
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On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:46:29PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) said:
> > >> That's always the hope, and then we meet the cold reality, where someone
> > >> just patched 'em1' into everything and hoped that was good enough. But
> > >> sure, 'damn the torpedoes' is
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 06:29:35PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
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> What is "The ethernet device"? It's the device that speaks ethernet and
> which isn't wireless or a bridge. The correct way to identify it is to
> look for devices that speak ethernet and which aren't wireless or
> bridges.
I
On Jan 29, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> (I'm not sure if the new installer
> even has an option for password-protecting grub2, offhand.)
It doesn't. And this seems to be an area of confusion on the two grub lists for
users and distro developers alike, looking to implement it. So I
On 2013-01-29 19:35, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:39 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote something about learning to read like the rest of the world.
Indeed, I did learn, like most of the rest of the world today, to simply reply.
And I learned to occasionally establish context wit
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On 01/29/2013 01:34 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
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>> On 01/29/2013 11:20 AM, John Reiser wrote:
>> A generic fallback image should be installed
Hello,
I did send the following message to the users-list but did not get a reply.
Therefore I try
here again. Meanwhile I found that somebody else filed a bug on
bugzilla.kernel.org
(*Bug* 53071* *Problems with gpe13 interrupt storm) about it. Is there
something else I can
do?
Thanks.
Eb
On Jan 29, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> A generic fallback image should be
> installed by anaconda on installation/update and never ever be removed.
FYI, this will require change/supplementing grub2, possibly with a 4x_custom
file, or rescue specific, in /etc/grub.d. Without s
Hi
I have retired this package in devel branch and rel-eng has blocked it.
However EPEL branch is still active and I am not touching it. Someone
handling EPEL should look into that. It is dangerous to let it remain in
the repo IMO
Rahul
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote
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