Hi all,
I've just updated the jnr-* package stack (dependencies of JRuby and Gradle)
and there were some license changes:
jnr-constants - previously MIT, now ASL 2.0
jnr-ffi - previously ASL 2.0 or LGPLv3+, now ASL 2.0
jnr-netdb - previously LGPLv3, now ASL 2.0
jnr-x86asm - previously LGPLv3, now
On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:53:20 -0800
Adam Williamson wrote:
> You're a new Linux user, you go to our download page, and instead of a
> simple big green Download button, it starts asking you questions about
> what 'desktop environment' you want? What the hell is this crap?
Well, than with the current
On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 09:42 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:
> First impression does a lot and gnome shell isn't especially good with
> *first* impressions.
In my experience, it is actually brilliant for first impressions.
I recently upgraded my parents' computer from Fedora 16 with GNOME
Fallback to
On 02/05/2013 07:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2013-02-05 at 17:17 +, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 05/02/13 16:58, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
What's worse is that it's harder than it used to be to change the
desktop---desktop style is no longer a login-time selection. In fact, I
am not sure
On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 10:01 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 02/05/2013 07:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-02-05 at 17:17 +, Tom Hughes wrote:
> >> On 05/02/13 16:58, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> >>
> >>> What's worse is that it's harder than it used to be to change the
> >>> desk
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:58:22 +0800
Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> But your statement was even less backed by data. ;)
>
I was assuming the case of newcomers doing the switch "by themselves",
coming from Windows (supposedly pre Win8), in rare cases from Mac OS X.
My data is generally known -- just look o
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 06:55:13 +0100, Johannes Lips wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was trying to build stuff for fedora 17 and it failed due to
> dependency problems:
> http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/2017/4932017/root.log
>
> What's happening and why is this happenening in a stable release?
>
On Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:57:51 David Malcolm wrote:
> Interesting. I had thought that git purely stored compressed files and
> eschewed the idea of deltas, but it does indeed store deltas sometimes:
> http://git-scm.com/book/ch9-4.html
The delta compression is used e.g. anytime you transf
Daiki Ueno wrote, at 02/06/2013 09:50 AM +9:00:
Daiki Ueno writes:
Thanks for testing. Well, when I drafted the feature page, I didn't
plan to change the default without hearing the opinions from actual
users of sentence-based Japanese input. But it might be good to start
with a wider scope
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-02-05 at 17:20 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:51:49PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> > This feature adds a simple configuration setting for firewalld to be able
>> > to
>> > lock down configuration
On 02/06/2013 02:36 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
About the "soffice" alias, it still breaks parallel installation in F18
(just tried, the desktop integration from OpenOffice conflicts with
libreoffice-core). It seems that the upstream LibreOffice packages no
longer use the "soffice" alias (at least
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 02:22:21PM +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote:
> Normally I try not to do this, but: what he said.
Vincent Untz asked for a show of hands of people who used GNOME 2, GNOME
3, switched, etc. Recommend seeing the FOSDEM video. Loads of people
indicated that they use GNOME 3, though less
On 05/02/2013 James Hogarth wrote:
Let's take a look at a similar (although of course not identical)
situation [...] the MariaDB packaging review request.
There are some critical differences here. Especially, if I understood
correctly the discussion we had at FOSDEM, the fact that OpenOffice i
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Nick Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Nick Jones wrote:
>>> As a quick summary: I would suggest, in addition to addressing
>>> the outstanding bugs and issues covered by the Fedora feature,
>
On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 09:28:16PM -0800, Eric Bergen wrote:
> Success! I've switched over to Cinnamon. The start style menu is back
> and I am happy. I'm sure I could get used to gnome-shell but my first
> experience wasn't a good one.
To add:
- Cinnamon was forked from gnome-shell, so any slowne
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 08:06:51PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> what makes me rellay angry (as one who never used and will use
> GNOME and i knew GNOME 1.0 and KDE 1.0 as well where most users
> of today not heard about linux at all) is that the GNOME developers
> did NOT learn ANYTHING by the KDE
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 12:04:44AM +0100, Rave it wrote:
> Your look in a crystal ball is far away from reality like the topic
> himself.
> Pls, give more to laugh.
> and stay close to facts instead of posting your personal
> perspective.
> This doesn't help us really.
Pot calling the kett
On 05/02/13 17:57, David Malcolm wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-02-05 at 13:02 +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote:
>> On Monday 04 February 2013 22:37:45 David Malcolm wrote:
>>> Content-addressed storage: they're named by SHA-1 sum of their contents,
>>> similar to how git does it, so if the bulk of the files don't
Hey Fedora Developers,
It would be nice to see MySQL 5.6 for Fedora 19.
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On 6 February 2013 12:33, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> On 02/06/2013 02:36 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
>> About the "soffice" alias, it still breaks parallel installation in F18
>> (just tried, the desktop integration from OpenOffice conflicts with
>> libreoffice-core). It seems that the upstream L
On 6 February 2013 13:15, Chris wrote:
> Hey Fedora Developers,
>
> It would be nice to see MySQL 5.6 for Fedora 19.
>
>
Rather than go through the same thing again I suggest you read this thread
about mariadb replacing mysql:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-January/176584.ht
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 09:58:25AM -0500, Paul Whalen wrote:
>
>
> The Fedora ARM team is pleased to announce that Fedora 18 for ARM is now
> available
> for download from:
>
> http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/18/Images/
>
> The Fedora 18 for ARM release includes pre-
On 02/05/2013 02:53 AM, Scott Schmit wrote:
Is there a program/script we can run that would tell us what the
interface names would be without biosdevname (without running the new
version of systemd on the box)?
If you have Fedora 18 with updates applied your systemd is new enough to
allow you
>
> There are some critical differences here. Especially, if I understood
> correctly the discussion we had at FOSDEM, the fact that OpenOffice is not
> going to be on install media or in the default package selection allows for
> some flexibility with respect to deadlines.
>
>
Except that the prop
I am orphaning xfig. Inkscape supports its file format and it's IMO much better
alternative for current machines. For some reason gstreamer{,1} buildrequires
it. Xfig has a 2 comaintainers, but I am not sure how much time they really have
currently. There are 2 bugs open.
I am ccing gstreamer owne
Hi,
On 02/06/2013 03:39 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:
I am orphaning xfig. Inkscape supports its file format and it's IMO much better
alternative for current machines. For some reason gstreamer{,1} buildrequires
it. Xfig has a 2 comaintainers, but I am not sure how much time they really have
c
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Pod-Usage:
c0262024e2949c0d27b3e8db65d3ad84 Pod-Usage-1.61.tar.gz
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commit 35f12b17460cb3b92440e4107d8cebd82206e9f9
Author: Petr Písař
Date: Wed Feb 6 16:27:18 2013 +0100
1.61 bump
.gitignore |1 +
perl-Pod-Usage.spec |9 +
sources |2 +-
3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
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diff --git a/.gitignore
James Hogarth writes:
> On 6 February 2013 13:15, Chris wrote:
>> It would be nice to see MySQL 5.6 for Fedora 19.
> Rather than go through the same thing again I suggest you read this thread
> about mariadb replacing mysql:
To clarify that a little bit: it might be reasonable to migrate to
mar
>
> To clarify that a little bit: it might be reasonable to migrate to
> mariadb 5.6.x in F20 or F21. I don't think we need the complications
> of doing both mysql->maria and 5.5.x->5.6.x at the same time.
>
> Also, keep in mind that 5.6.x was just declared GA yesterday. It's
> doubtless still pr
- Original Message -
> From: "Nick Jones"
> In the summary of this Fedora feature for fixing name resolution is
> this snippet: "Fedora could be seen as the leader in linux networking"
Yep. My intention to improve the overall networking features is not limited to
what is described in Fix
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 02:55:42PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Features/MoreMobileBroadband =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MoreMobileBroadband
>
> Feature owner(s): Dan Williams
>
> New mobile broadband devices supporting multiple technologies (eg,
> CDMA/EVDO/LTE and/or GSM
Am 05.02.2013 21:31, schrieb Ian Malone:
> On 5 February 2013 20:10, Alec Leamas wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't say Fedora "follows blindly" but rather chooses an upstream from
>> some alternatives (their ability to handle feedback from us beeing one ot
>> the criterias).
>
> Gnome has been the defaul
Am 05.02.2013 22:21, schrieb Luya Tshimbalanga:
> On 05/02/13 12:09 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>
>> In the Gnome2 days you had choices between functionally similar DEs.
>>
>> Times have changed ... Gnome has been forked multiply (Gnome3, MATE,
>> Cinammon), xfce/enlightenment are back.
>>
> Gnom
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:35:06PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Features/Trusted Network Connect (TNC) =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Trusted_Network_Connect_%28TNC%29
>
I note that this Feature lacks a contingency plan. Since it touches the
networking stack and brokenness there
- Original Message -
> From: "Reindl Harald"
> Am 05.02.2013 22:21, schrieb Luya Tshimbalanga:
> > On 05/02/13 12:09 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > Gnome 3 is still Gnome. Both MATE and Cinnamon which came years
> > after Gnome 3 via Gnome-Shell, are reactionary for
> > self-interest becaus
On 02/05/2013 12:00 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
What's worse is that it's harder than it used to be to change the
desktop---desktop style is no longer a login-time selection.
It certainly is. Every login manager offers that option
On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 07:52 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> In Scope I see "KDE's networking layers likely require an update to use the
> new API, as will any other direct client of ModemManager. However, the
> functionality that most networking applets require from ModemManager is
> fairly simple
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 08:07:50AM -0500, Alon Levy wrote:
> > So what is this feature good for? How can I benefit from it? May be
> > Plymouth will work in KVM while it did not work previously? I am not
> > sure.
>
> The main benefit is for the X & kernel graphics driver maintainers, who are
> t
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 11:13:48AM -0500, Pavel Simerda wrote:
> I wouldn't ask specific people to actually work on it. But it would be
> nice if the core developers provided more support, feature stability
> and API stability. To ask them to actively encourage alternative GUIs
> and allow them to
Hi Enrico,
Thanks very much for adding me as a co-maintainer. I guess that you
probably don't have much time for updating the Tor package, so I'm glad
to be on board and will be taking a very active role in maintaining the
package so that you can spend time on other things. I have some package
cle
05.02.2013 19:58, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 05.02.2013 16:49, schrieb Jochen Schmitt:
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 10:30:50AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
2) Modern Windows updates are safer than RPM, speaking broadly
jokingly?
show me a upgrade of production machines from F9 to F17
without end in
On 05/02/13 16:41, Tomas Bzatek wrote:
> FYI, the old-generation udisks package has been made orphan in rawhide,
> nothing should be really using it nowadays. There's udisks2 (with
> incompatible API) as a supported method for handling storage.
>
> Is anybody still using udisks, the first generati
On 06/02/2013 David Tardon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 02:36:36AM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
As Stephan wrote, soffice is the main problem (and I wonder if
unopkg is in the same situation or is not problematic).
unopkg is in the same situation, of course.
Thanks. I edited the proposal p
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:08:37 +
Jamie Nguyen wrote:
> bashmount is a script I wrote ages ago (back in my Arch Linux days
> when I was obsessed with being able to do everything via the
> command-line). I've not used it in a while, nor have I had the
> time/motivation to port to udisks2 (which h
Good day all,
This weeks Fedora ARM status meeting will take place today (Wednesday Feb 06th)
in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode.
Times in various time zones (please let us know if these do not work):
PDT: 1pm
MDT: 2pm
CDT: 3pm
EDT: 4pm
UTC: 9pm
BST: 9pm
CST: 10pm
Current items on the agenda:
0
On 02/06/2013 11:12 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:35:06PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Trusted Network Connect (TNC) =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Trusted_Network_Connect_%28TNC%29
I note that this Feature lacks a contingency plan. Since it touc
On 06/02/13 17:35, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
Thanks Kevin.
OK, package retired!
> Package bashmount in Fedora devel has been retired by jamielinux
>
> To make changes to this package see:
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 06:19:25PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> This is going towards getting political... Let's say that, at the
> very least, nobody will ever invoke "openoffice.org" if he wants to
> run "libreoffice", regardless of which software is the newcomer. So
> at least this source of
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808197
Phil Knirsch changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||pknir...@redhat.com
On Friday, February 01, 2013 04:39:17 PM Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Given FIPS paranoia about RNG sources, does this have knock-on effects in
> the FIPS compliance of guests depending on how it's fed in the host?
There is no FIPS problem here. Its more of a common criteria issue. But here
is a litt
On 02/06/2013 01:21 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 06:55:13 +0100, Johannes Lips wrote:
Hi,
I was trying to build stuff for fedora 17 and it failed due to
dependency problems:
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/2017/4932017/root.log
What's happening and why is this
On 02/06/2013 11:01 AM, Elio Maldonado wrote:
On 02/06/2013 01:21 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 06:55:13 +0100, Johannes Lips wrote:
Hi,
I was trying to build stuff for fedora 17 and it failed due to
dependency problems:
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/2017/493
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:01:33 -0800, Elio Maldonado wrote:
> The problem is that there are four packages, nspr, nss-util,
> nss-softokn, nss, and nspr expired sooner that the others as sometines
> nss takes me longer. we have two options: (1) expire all of them or (2)
> edit overrides to extend
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 01:42:00PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
> What the proposal is meant to ensure is that Fedora 19 users will be
> able to install OpenOffice 4 from the official Fedora repositories
> and without experiencing any conflicts with other packages. It seems
> clear from the cur
Matthew Garrett wrote:
Andrea Pescetti wrote:
nobody will ever invoke "openoffice.org" if he wants to
run "libreoffice" [...] by pure
common sense and not even taking trademarks into account.
My understanding is that trademarks don't protect functional interfaces,
so in the absence of legal adv
On 02/06/2013 11:48 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:01:33 -0800, Elio Maldonado wrote:
The problem is that there are four packages, nspr, nss-util,
nss-softokn, nss, and nspr expired sooner that the others as sometines
nss takes me longer. we have two options: (1) expire all
On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 15:04 -0500, David Malcolm wrote:
> I've been experimenting with some UI ideas for reporting static analysis
> results: I've linked to two different UI reports below.
[...snip...]
I've updated the reports somewhat so that they can now show analysis
failures were an analyzer f
I'm rebasing gnutls in rawhide to gnutls-3.1.7. This is much awaited
upgrade by many. However note that potentially patented ECC sources are
removed.
The rebase bumps soname to libgnutls.so.28. The other potentially
disrupting change is removal of libgnutls-extra.so. The only packages
that depend
Hello,
To match the change made in Design Suite Spin [1] for F19, I updated the
comps-f19.xml. Running xmllint did not generate error.
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Thanks to those who were able to join us for the weekly status meeting today.
For those that were unable, the minutes are posted below:
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-02-06/fedora-meeting-1.2013-02-06-21.00.html
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org
On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 21:59 +0100, Tomas Mraz wrote:
> I'm rebasing gnutls in rawhide to gnutls-3.1.7. This is much awaited
> upgrade by many. However note that potentially patented ECC sources are
> removed.
Yay! at last! Thanks.
Although RFC6090 *really* ought to have solved the nonsense about
On Tue, 05 Feb, 2013 at 18:43:40 GMT, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> After some tests I'm going pack with :
>
> if /sbin/udevadm control --reload-rules >/dev/null 2>&1
> then
>/sbin/udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=usb --action=add >/dev/null 2>&1
> || :
>/sbin/udevadm settle >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
On 2-6-13 14:33:42 Michal Schmidt wrote:
> If you have Fedora 18 with updates applied your systemd is new
> enough to allow you to see the udev-generated names using:
>
> udevadm info --export -p /sys/class/net/$IFACE | grep ID_NET
>
> Example output:
>
> E: ID_NET_NAME_MAC=enx000f53014229
> E:
I haven't chimed in on this thread yet, and as the original
biosdevname author, I suppose I should. Some points of consideration,
which I had shared with Lennart and Kay when they first showed me
their work.
A) I'm glad to see someone else recognize and want to tackle
this. Doing it in udev ma
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