Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread P J P
   Hi, - Original Message - > From: P J P > Subject: Re: About F19 Firewall > >    Static? Oh my...! Firewalld allows Applications, daemons and the user can > request to enable a firewall feature over D-BUS. It does not seem like a good > idea at all. What happens if an application/dae

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 12:40:15AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > >> Anyone can broadcast an SSID. How does FirewallD authenticate the > >> network connection? > >FirewallD is not responsible for such authentication/AP validation. > >Firewall as such is not meant to assure you're connecting to where

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Björn Persson
Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >On 20.09.2013 22:23, Björn Persson wrote: >> Anyone can broadcast an SSID. How does FirewallD authenticate the >> network connection? > >FirewallD is not responsible for such authentication/AP validation. >Firewall as such is not meant to assure you're connecting to whe

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 04:17:21PM +0200, Thomas Woerner wrote: > If a static firewall configuration fits your needs, just disable > firewalld and use the ip*tables firewall services: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD?rd=FirewallD/#Using_static_firewall_rules_with_the_iptables_and_ip6ta

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 20.09.2013 22:23, Björn Persson wrote: > > Anyone can broadcast an SSID. How does FirewallD authenticate the > network connection? > FirewallD is not responsible for such authentication/AP validation. Firewall as such is not meant to assure you're connecting to where you want. Mateusz Marza

Re: F20 Alpha Impressions

2013-09-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 13:13 -0600, Erinn Looney-Triggs wrote: > Finally, and for some reason I can't figure out, F19 Alpha and F20 Alpha > seem to crash my wireless router. F19 Final didn't do this, but the > Alpha sure did and I don't have a clue as to why. My systems has an > Intel 6250 wireless

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:23:27PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > Thomas Woerner wrote: > >If for > >example you are using wifi connections at home, work, .. you can bind > >these to the (for you) appropriate zone. For example work for your > >work wi

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread P J P
  Hi, - Original Message - > From: Thomas Woerner > Subject: Re: About F19 Firewall > If a static firewall configuration fits your needs, just disable > firewalld and use the ip*tables firewall services:    Static? Oh my...! Firewalld allows Applications, daemons and the user can reques

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Björn Persson
Thomas Woerner wrote: >If for >example you are using wifi connections at home, work, .. you can bind >these to the (for you) appropriate zone. For example work for your >work wifi connection. It will be used only if you are connecting to >your work wifi connection (it is bound to the SSID). Anyone

F20 Alpha Impressions

2013-09-20 Thread Erinn Looney-Triggs
First off congrats, each release gets better and better especially with regards to the anaconda changes. Either I am getting better trained to deal with the rough spots or they just have been fixed, I figure it is the latter. So here are some of the issues I ran into, I will file bugs for these bu

Re: does mc really require perl*?

2013-09-20 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 08:37:50PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > well, some people would now say "i do" > the same i can say for sure to some other pakcages on a cloud server where > they would disagree and because everybody has different needs keep the > dependency chain as small as possible is al

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread P J P
   Hi, - Original Message - > From: Thomas Woerner > Subject: Re: About F19 Firewall > 1) Separate zones. > NM connections, interfaces and source addresses or ranges can be bound > to zones. The initial default zone is public and all connections will be > bound to this zone. The user o

Re: does mc really require perl*?

2013-09-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.09.2013 20:26, schrieb Bill Nottingham: > Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) said: >> Am 20.09.2013 17:18, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: >>> (IMHO, disk space is cheap enough that just using hard Requires: is >>> rarely wrong enough to worry about it.) >> >> no it is *not* >> >> in cloud inf

Re: does mc really require perl*?

2013-09-20 Thread Bill Nottingham
Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) said: > Am 20.09.2013 17:18, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: > > (IMHO, disk space is cheap enough that just using hard Requires: is > > rarely wrong enough to worry about it.) > > no it is *not* > > in cloud infrastructure where you have 100, 500, 1000 > instances

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 03:12:30PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Do you have list somewhere of python dependent code in the core/baseOS? Yes, I do. It's: firewalld yum (In the cloud image, we also have cloud-init, though..) -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ -

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 06:12:56PM +0200, Phil Knirsch wrote: > same for yum via dnf. That only leaves authconfig, which should be > doable as well (just needs someone actually doing it). There's really no need for authconfig in the minimal. It needs to be there for initial configuration, but in m

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 06:07:17PM +0200, Phil Knirsch wrote: > rpm -q --whatrequires "python(abi)" --qf "%{NAME}\n" | sort > gives me this list: [...] > authconfig Oops I forgot that one. [...] > So there's quite a bit of other stuff that still requires python as > well apart from firewalld. I

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 09/20/2013 05:12 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 09/20/2013 02:15 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:50:06PM +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: It's written in Python and so what? Interpreted languages like Perl and Bash are widely used in Linux world to implement man

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 04:30:05PM +0200, Thomas Woerner wrote: > We are already working towards a rewrite in C for firewalld and > firewall-cmd. Awesome -- I know you'd mentioned this but I'm glad to hear that it's in progress. I'd still _really_ like a way to have a non-long-running mode. > fi

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 09/20/2013 06:07 PM, Phil Knirsch wrote: On 09/20/2013 05:12 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 09/20/2013 02:15 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:50:06PM +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: It's written in Python and so what? Interpreted languages like Perl and Bash ar

[389-devel] please review: Ticket 47513 - tmpfiles.d references /var/lock when they should reference /run/lock

2013-09-20 Thread Mark Reynolds
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47513 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47513/init-diff -- Mark Reynolds 389 Development Team Red Hat, Inc mreyno...@redhat.com -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/20/2013 02:15 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:50:06PM +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: It's written in Python and so what? Interpreted languages like Perl and Bash are widely used in Linux world to implement many tools. I don't buy argumentation that if something is

Re: does mc really require perl*?

2013-09-20 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 11.9.2013 21:54, Bill Nottingham napsal(a): The problem with soft dependencies has always been the semantics and the workflow, not the implementation. So do we have the implementation? I am afraid not, since this "problem" is always used as an excuse why not implement it. But discussing w

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Thomas Woerner
On 09/20/2013 04:15 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:50:06PM +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: It's written in Python and so what? Interpreted languages like Perl and Bash are widely used in Linux world to implement many tools. I don't buy argumentation that if something is

Re: does mc really require perl*?

2013-09-20 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 11.9.2013 21:54, Bill Nottingham napsal(a): > >> The problem with soft dependencies has always been the semantics and the >> workflow, not the implementation. > > > So do we have the implementation? I am afraid not, since this "problem" is

Re: [Maria-developers] Prep for MariaDB 5.5.33a

2013-09-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.09.2013 03:32, schrieb Daniel Bartholomew: > I've begun the prep for the special 5.5.33a release. > > Draft changelog and release notes are here: > > https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-5533a-changelog/ > https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-5533a-release-notes/ > > As always, fixes, additions

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.09.2013 15:59, schrieb Thomas Woerner: >> Multicast >> DNS is allowed in the internal network(chain IN_internal_allow). I >> guess IN_internal_allow is meant for some closed group internal >> network, not sure. >> >> ACCEPT udp -- 0.0.0.0/0224.0.0.251 udp

Re: does mc really require perl*?

2013-09-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.09.2013 17:18, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: > (IMHO, disk space is cheap enough that just using hard Requires: is > rarely wrong enough to worry about it.) no it is *not* in cloud infrastructure where you have 100, 500, 1000 instances and need to reserve 50 or 150 MB more for the base OS because

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Thomas Woerner
On 09/18/2013 08:16 AM, P J P wrote: Hello, - Original Message - From: Mateusz Marzantowicz Subject: Re: About F19 Firewall Maybe, true but I doubt that simpler set of rules, that never get audited, written by inexperienced users are more secure than "complex" rules in FirewallD w

Actually retired: wimax, wimax-tools (was Re: Intent to retire: wimax, wimax-tools)

2013-09-20 Thread Bill Nottingham
Florian Weimer (fwei...@redhat.com) said: > On 09/20/2013 02:41 AM, Dave Jones wrote: > >On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 04:26:08PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > Because it's pretty much dead upstream, getting towards dead in > > real-world > > > deployments, and never really worked well anyway i

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Thomas Woerner
On 09/17/2013 07:21 AM, P J P wrote: - Original Message - From: P J P Subject: About F19 Firewall It doesn't have to be so complicated that even if one tries to understand it, he/she can not. :( This small script seems to work good. === #!/bin/sh # # fw.sh: a basic drop unless

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 04:50:06PM +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > It's written in Python and so what? Interpreted languages like Perl and > Bash are widely used in Linux world to implement many tools. I don't buy > argumentation that if something is not implemented in C it sucks. It's not th

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Thomas Woerner
Hello, On 09/16/2013 07:55 AM, P J P wrote: Hello Tomasz, - Original Message - From: Tomasz Torcz Subject: Re: About F19 Firewall You seem to have missed this Fedora *18* feature: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/firewalld-default firewall-cmd is supposed to isolate u

Re: About F19 Firewall

2013-09-20 Thread Thomas Woerner
On 09/15/2013 08:52 PM, P J P wrote: Hi, I upgraded to F19 recently. And I happened to look at the output of iptables(8) today. $ iptables -nL It's baffling! It's crazy 4 pages long listing!! Why are there so many chains? Most are empty. Those which have rules, jump from one chai

Re: abrt Bugzilla summary

2013-09-20 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 16 septembre 2013 à 08:51 -0600, Kevin Fenzi a écrit : > On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:36:41 +0200 > Karel Zak wrote: > > > Please, fix/improve your email client UI. All bugzilla emails > > contain all necessary information in email header: > > ...snip... > > > For example if you use mutt the

Re: Review swaps: perl-Parse-DebControl, devscripts, debian-keyring, ubuntu-keyring, jetring + question: where to install keyrings?

2013-09-20 Thread Sandro Mani
On 20.09.2013 13:33, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, In the hope to continue the effort of getting pbuilder (and hence an easy way to build deb packages from fedora) into the repos (review here: [1]), I've packaged devscripts, debian-keyring, u

Re: Review swaps: perl-Parse-DebControl, devscripts, debian-keyring, ubuntu-keyring, jetring + question: where to install keyrings?

2013-09-20 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Sandro Mani wrote: > Hi, > > In the hope to continue the effort of getting pbuilder (and hence an easy > way to build deb packages from fedora) into the repos (review here: [1]), > I've packaged devscripts, debian-keyring, ubuntu-keyring and jetring. > Reviews are

Re: SSSD 1.11 and AD homeDirectory

2013-09-20 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 05:32:29PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Wed, 2013-09-11 at 15:26 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > > > > > > Almost certainly you do not want a home directory backed by a cifs > > > filesystem, however if you really do I s