Re: VOB

2013-11-27 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Thu, 2013-11-28 at 07:59 +0100, Johannes Lips wrote: > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Richard Vickery > wrote: > Being on the test kernel - or, more likely, using a more > stable one from the list that is compiled - is probably the > answer to the issue: how am I to

Re: VOB

2013-11-27 Thread Johannes Lips
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Richard Vickery < richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Being on the test kernel - or, more likely, using a more stable one from > the list that is compiled - is probably the answer to the issue: how am I > to watch a VOB file? > This has nothing to do with the ke

Re: Fedora 20 Final blocker bug status report (ACTIONS REQUIRED: karma from QA, fixes from devs)

2013-11-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-11-28 at 06:17 +0100, poma wrote: > On 28.11.2013 03:25, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864198 "grubby fatal error > > updating grub.cfg when /boot is btrfs" - grubby - the problem here is > > clearly defined. We are waiting on pjones to dec

Re: Fedora 20 Final blocker bug status report (ACTIONS REQUIRED: karma from QA, fixes from devs)

2013-11-27 Thread poma
On 28.11.2013 03:25, Adam Williamson wrote: > * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864198 "grubby fatal error > updating grub.cfg when /boot is btrfs" - grubby - the problem here is > clearly defined. We are waiting on pjones to decide how to move forward > with this. Gene Czarcinski has

Fedora 20 Final blocker bug status report (ACTIONS REQUIRED: karma from QA, fixes from devs)

2013-11-27 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi, folks. We have just over one week to the Fedora 20 Go/No-Go meeting, and a big happy pile of blocker bugs - everyone's having fun! In order to be able to complete testing in time for the go/no-go meeting comprehensively and comfortably, we would need a build with all these bugs addressed by the

Re: TLS libraries and licenses

2013-11-27 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 11/27/2013 10:46 AM, Dan Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2013-11-27 at 09:27 -0700, Jerry James wrote: >> The second option is gnutls, which is various flavors of GPL and LGPL, >> and so is fine for us. We did have one developer wonder why gnutls is >> preferred over openssl, though. Can anyone answ

Re: Self Introduction

2013-11-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 16:28 +, Simon Farnsworth wrote: > Hello all, > > My employer, ONELAN, have been using Fedora as a baseline Linux system for > our > products for a while now, and I've just hit a situation where no-one's > packaging gstreamer1-python, but we're going to start depending

Re: SDDMinsteadOfKDM Change pushed back to f21

2013-11-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2013-11-26 at 10:30 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > At the KDE SIG meeting today, we made the hard decision to push > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SDDMinsteadOfKDM > change/feature back to f21. There were simply too many sddm-related > blocker issues that would not be safely resolvabl

Re: Best practice for multiple version/OS boot?

2013-11-27 Thread poma
On 25.11.2013 17:35, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 25 November 2013 06:58, Adam Williamson wrote: >> Personally, I use VMs. > > I think the majority of developers do this. I have f19, f20, and > rawhide VMs with multiple versions of the images I use nearly every > day. For rawhide, it's a huge win t

VOB

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Vickery
Being on the test kernel - or, more likely, using a more stable one from the list that is compiled - is probably the answer to the issue: how am I to watch a VOB file? Linux 3.11.9-300.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Nov 20 22:23:25 UTC 2013 x86_64 Thanks -- Richard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedo

Re: RFC: Simply the retirement procedure - trigger on dead.package

2013-11-27 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 04:01:07PM -0500, Al Dunsmuir wrote: > What about un-retirement? It is critical that administrators be able > to handle this side of the packaging process, even after a release has > been branched. This is out-of-scope for my proposal, except that no packages should be r

Re: TLS libraries and licenses

2013-11-27 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Jerry James wrote: > >> The third option is OpenSSL, whose license is GPL-incompatible, and so >> not an option for us. > > at least in fedora, openssl is considered a "system library" (for gpl > purposes). > > Probably a good idea to consult f

Re: TLS libraries and licenses

2013-11-27 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Dan Williams wrote: > You answered that just below; because OpenSSL is GPL incompatible. > Since gnutls is LGPL, it can be used in most places openssl can be used, > *plus* it can be used with GPL software. Obviously, consult your > lawyers for the specifics of yo

Re: Reopening: Q: webfonts:

2013-11-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mer 27 novembre 2013 15:39, Petr Vobornik a écrit : > Hi, > > I would like to reopen the discussion about packaging web fonts since > its conclusion(below) is not very usable. > > The issue I'm dealing with is that we want FreeIPA Web UI to use Open > Sans and Font Awesome(FA) font. FA is being

Fedora 20 TC3 AMIs

2013-11-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Final TC3 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at ami-c17858a8 : us-east-1 image for i386 ami-6578580c : us-east-1 image for x86_64 additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files in the release tree ht

Re: RFC: Simply the retirement procedure - trigger on dead.package

2013-11-27 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 2:30:23 PM, Ralph Bean wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 07:46:28PM +0100, Till Maas wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:35:13PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 19:21:53 +0100, >> > Till Maas wrote: >> > > >> > >What are your opinions a

2013-11-27 @ **17:00 UTC** - F20 Final Blocker Bug Review #3 Minutes

2013-11-27 Thread Mike Ruckman
Below are the minutes from today's Blocker Review Meeting. We made it through all the listed blocker (10) and freeze exception (14) proposals. The next meeting will be 2013-12-04 at 17:00 UTC. == #fedora-blocker-review: F20-blocker-review =

Re: RFC: Simply the retirement procedure - trigger on dead.package

2013-11-27 Thread Ralph Bean
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 07:46:28PM +0100, Till Maas wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:35:13PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 19:21:53 +0100, > > Till Maas wrote: > > > > > >What are your opinions about this? I already checked with Dennis > > >Gilmore, he is ok with t

Re: RFC: Simply the retirement procedure - trigger on dead.package

2013-11-27 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 07:21:53PM +0100, Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > while cleaning up retired packages (which I did not yet finish), I came > up with an idea to simplify the retirement procedure to avoid > inconsistencies. With the help of fedmsg I would like to make it enough > wrt to koji and p

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2013-11-27)

2013-11-27 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-11-27) === Meeting started by mmaslano at 18:00:39 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-11-27/fesco.2013-11-27-18.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: Introduction

2013-11-27 Thread Alek Paunov
Hi Tako, On 27.11.2013 15:01, Tako Schotanus wrote: Sorry for not responding to this before, but lots of other things to do and this packaging business obviously needs more than just an hour here or there of reading READMEs. NP, I just decided that you are in touch with the experienced pac

Re: RFC: Simply the retirement procedure - trigger on dead.package

2013-11-27 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:35:13PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 19:21:53 +0100, > Till Maas wrote: > > > >What are your opinions about this? I already checked with Dennis > >Gilmore, he is ok with this. > > Is there a fail against doing this in released versions? (Unl

Re: RFC: Simply the retirement procedure - trigger on dead.package

2013-11-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 19:21:53 +0100, Till Maas wrote: What are your opinions about this? I already checked with Dennis Gilmore, he is ok with this. Is there a fail against doing this in released versions? (Unless there is a legal reason to do the retirement, we wouldn't want to do that

RFC: Simply the retirement procedure - trigger on dead.package

2013-11-27 Thread Till Maas
Hi, while cleaning up retired packages (which I did not yet finish), I came up with an idea to simplify the retirement procedure to avoid inconsistencies. With the help of fedmsg I would like to make it enough wrt to koji and pkgdb to add a dead.package file to dist git to retire a package. When t

Re: TLS libraries and licenses

2013-11-27 Thread Rex Dieter
Jerry James wrote: > The third option is OpenSSL, whose license is GPL-incompatible, and so > not an option for us. at least in fedora, openssl is considered a "system library" (for gpl purposes). Probably a good idea to consult fedora legal list instead (you'll likely get a better answer ther

Re: TLS libraries and licenses

2013-11-27 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Dan Williams wrote: libgcrypt is actually just basic crypto, not TLS. gnutls is based on libgcrypt. So it's not an alternative to anything above for TLS stuff, but you'll get it anyway if you choose gnutls. I'd also like to add that GnuTLS 3.x (Fedora 19+) defaults to using nettle instead of

Re: TLS libraries and licenses

2013-11-27 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2013-11-27 at 09:27 -0700, Jerry James wrote: > For one package for which I am part of upstream, we are talking about > adding TLS support. The upstream project is GPLv3+. We're looking at > the preferred list of crypto implementations on > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraCryptoConsol

Re: rawhide report: 20131126 changes - papi auto builds

2013-11-27 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 11/26/2013 03:13 AM, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: Compose started at Tue Nov 26 05:15:08 UTC 2013 Broken deps for i386 -- [openmpi] openmpi-1.7.3-1.fc21.i686 requires libpapi.so.5.2.0.0 Broken deps for x86_64 -

TLS libraries and licenses

2013-11-27 Thread Jerry James
For one package for which I am part of upstream, we are talking about adding TLS support. The upstream project is GPLv3+. We're looking at the preferred list of crypto implementations on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraCryptoConsolidation and have a couple of questions. The most preferred op

Re: Introduction

2013-11-27 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Tako Schotanus wrote: > > Sorry for not responding to this before, but lots of other things to do and > this packaging business obviously needs more than just an hour here or there > of reading READMEs. > > I see you want to make things even more difficult for me

Python 3.4, ensurepip and wheels

2013-11-27 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
Hi all, so I started to work on packaging Python 3.4 beta 1 and I wanted to create ensurepip patch also acceptable for upstream - Toshio and Nick talked about that at [1]. I tried to analyze the situation and here is what I have. First some facts: - with ensurepip, Python 3.4 bundles setuptools

Reopening: Q: webfonts:

2013-11-27 Thread Petr Vobornik
Hi, I would like to reopen the discussion about packaging web fonts since its conclusion(below) is not very usable. The issue I'm dealing with is that we want FreeIPA Web UI to use Open Sans and Font Awesome(FA) font. FA is being packaged and I planned to package Open Sans (Apache license v2

Re: Introduction

2013-11-27 Thread Tako Schotanus
Sorry for not responding to this before, but lots of other things to do and this packaging business obviously needs more than just an hour here or there of reading READMEs. I see you want to make things even more difficult for me by giving me *several* options to choose from, are you *trying*

F-20 Branched report: 20131127 changes

2013-11-27 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Nov 27 07:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for armhfp -- [avro] avro-mapred-1.7.5-1.fc20.noarch requires hadoop-mapreduce avro-mapred-1.7.5-1.fc20.noarch requires hadoop-client [blueman] blueman-1.23-7

Re: Self Introduction

2013-11-27 Thread Simon Farnsworth
Hi Ales, I've put https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1034341 up for review - I've not had time yet to go and review other people's packages. Upstream know I'm doing this; they've taken a patch from me already that fell out of the review, to fix the FSF's address in their files. Simon

Re: Self Introduction

2013-11-27 Thread Ales Ledvinka
Hello, This might be the starting point: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers?rd=PackageMaintainers/Join - Original Message - From: "Simon Farnsworth" To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 5:28:21 PM Subject: Self Introduction