Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-17 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 01/17/2014 02:25 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 01/16/2014 01:38 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: The other thing -- getting unicode to include standard symbols -- is happening. That's why we have 💩 . Yay standards! Oh man. Change that to 144pt. Is

Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-17 Thread Martin Stransky
On 01/16/2014 08:19 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: On Qui, 2014-01-16 at 12:47 +0100, Martin Stransky wrote: New builds are available at copr [1]. Package firefox-gtk3-29.0-3 contains working NPAPI plugin support, so flash and other should work there. Please report any issue to bugzila (firefox compon

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-17 Thread Peter Oliver
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Petr Viktorin wrote: On 01/17/2014 02:25 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Assuming you're using Fedora to read your emails, what font do you have installed that has those glyphs? I can see them on my Android phone, but not on my Fedora laptop. You can use Symbola, yum install gdo

Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.01.2014 01:32, schrieb Michael Catanzaro: > On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 20:18 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> personally if a GTK user does not want GTK3 i want a pure >> QT firefox to get rid of GTK-dialogs >> >> i know that will not happen, but on the KDE desktop *any* GTK2 or GTK3 >> application

Latest selinux-policy and selinux-policy-targeted update breaks RPM scriptlets execution

2014-01-17 Thread Rubin
Hi Fedora, Just a quick note that the latest selinux-policy and selinux-policy-targeted breaks RPM scriptlet execution (pre, post, postun, etc). I've verified this on two separate systems (my laptop, a desktop at work). The versions causing this is: 0:3.12.1-116.fc20 (for both packages) This is

Re: NetworkManager Bridges in Fedora

2014-01-17 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 01/16/2014 08:09 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 13:53 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Has anybody had any luck with getting bridges >> consistently up in running in either F19 or F20? >> I know I have not... >> >> I go into setup/networks. Add a bridge which creates

Re: Latest selinux-policy and selinux-policy-targeted update breaks RPM scriptlets execution

2014-01-17 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Rubin wrote: > Hi Fedora, > > Just a quick note that the latest selinux-policy and > selinux-policy-targeted breaks RPM scriptlet execution (pre, post, > postun, etc). > > I've verified this on two separate systems (my laptop, a desktop at > work). The versions cau

[Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 17. Jan 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2014-01-17 Thread Phil Knirsch
Agenda: - Self hosting detailed review & discussion & next steps: http://www.harald-hoyer.de/2014/01/14/self-hosting-fedora-base/ - Inter WG coordination -> FOSDEM, DevConf? - Open floor -- Philipp Knirsch | Tel.: +49-711-96437-470 Manager Core Services| Fax.: +49-711-

Odd BTRFS COW behaviour

2014-01-17 Thread James Hogarth
Hi all, I've encountered something that seems a little weird and wondering if anyone has any ideas... My home server has an ext4 root with a btrfs pool mounted at /data (with a number of subvolumes in there). Within /data I am able to do cp --reflink=always between subvolumes and COW works as

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-01-15)

2014-01-17 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/16/2014 02:12 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 07:39 +0100, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: >> === #fedora-meeting: FESCO >> (2014-01-15) === >> >> >> Meeting started by

the_silver_searcher is looking for sponsor

2014-01-17 Thread Kenjiro NAKAYAMA
Hi, I would like to include the package of the_silver_searcher in Fedora, so can anyone please cooperate with me as a sponsor? the_silver_searcher is code searching tool which faster than ack. And as you may already know, it is widely used. Ubuntu, Debian, Gentoo, OS X, ArchLinux, FreeBSD and Ope

Re: Odd BTRFS COW behaviour

2014-01-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 17, 2014, at 6:06 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > So far as I understand it when in the same pool cross-subvolume COW should be > valid (as shown in /data on the server) - even if technically under separate > mounts. I haven't yet found anything newer than this: http://git.kernel.org/cgi

Re: NetworkManager Bridges in Fedora

2014-01-17 Thread Steve Dickson
On 17/01/14 07:30, Harald Hoyer wrote: >> journalctl -b _SYSTEMD_UNIT=NetworkManager.service > better use > > # journalctl -b -u NetworkManager > > "-u" has the advantage, that you can specify it multiple times with different > units and get a combined output. Good go know... thanks! steved. -

Re: Odd BTRFS COW behaviour

2014-01-17 Thread James Hogarth
On 17 January 2014 13:38, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2014, at 6:06 AM, James Hogarth > wrote: > > > So far as I understand it when in the same pool cross-subvolume COW should > be valid (as shown in /data on the server) - even if technically under > separate mounts. > > > I haven't yet f

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-01-15)

2014-01-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 08:08:29AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I feel like I tried several times to communicate this exact statement > and was pretty much ignored. For the record, I said it too. > I'd love to reopen this discussion, since I really do think the > %{dist} solution is the easi

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 01/17/2014 02:52 AM, Peter Oliver wrote: In summary, the emoji font used in Android Jelly Bean is currently in updates-testing; "yum install --enablerepo updates-testing google-android-emoji-fonts". https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/google-android-emoji-fonts Thank you for the info.

[perl-perlindex] Import

2014-01-17 Thread Petr Pisar
commit ea64a3168635cf097bf821f14d970446fcc19247 Author: Petr Písař Date: Fri Jan 17 16:32:52 2014 +0100 Import .gitignore |1 + perl-perlindex.spec| 62 ...ess-interpreter-declaration-from-T

[Base] Fedora Base Design Working Group (2014-01-17) meeting minutes and logs

2014-01-17 Thread Phil Knirsch
Meeting minutes. Main points are now to take action on the data Harald Hoyer produced and contact the 65 package maintainers of potential immediate cleanup candidates or if not generally fixable for a %bootstrap flagging. Inter WG coordination we think would be best tackled by a cross team co

Re: adam's grump of the day: icons in fonts (was Re: web-assets-httpd stuck in limbo?)

2014-01-17 Thread Matthew Miller
> Thank you for the info. They aren't coloured like on the phone, but > at least I have the symbols now. > Ah, I just read the mailing list post, so this isn't the colour one. > I did wonder how the font system would handle that. It's coming: https://lwn.net/Articles/564944/ -- Matthew Miller

Re: Odd BTRFS COW behaviour

2014-01-17 Thread James Hogarth
On 17 January 2014 14:10, James Hogarth wrote: > > > Thanks that commit does indeed match my behaviour ... even if it seems a > bit messed up all things considered ... > > I might use a Fedora Live instance and remove the /home mount point whilst > maintaining as a subvolume within root ... > > I

Re: Fedora 18 End of Life

2014-01-17 Thread David A. Wheeler
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 05:24:04PM +0100, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > > > gesture to at least keep the source RPMs around. > > The thing is those copr repos will likely depend on EOLed Fedora > > repos. Do we keep *those* around? I guess the answer will be different > > for each mirror. Some will

Re: Fedora 18 End of Life

2014-01-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:51:57 -0500 (EST) "David A. Wheeler" wrote: > Reproducing the exact build environment, when I tried to do it years > ago, turned out to be practically impossible and not just "difficult". There was a recent effort on this: https://github.com/kholia/ReproducibleBuilds > I

F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

2014-01-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
Puppet (the client side, at least) should be installable with relatively thin deps, so it can manage lightweight hosts... I am having trouble disentangling which deps to file a bug against; maybe virt-what ? [martin@tp-martin puppet-rlgold.git]$ sudo yum install puppet [sudo] password for martin:

Re: F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

2014-01-17 Thread Bill Nottingham
Martin Langhoff (martin.langh...@gmail.com) said: > Puppet (the client side, at least) should be installable with > relatively thin deps, so it can manage lightweight hosts... > > I am having trouble disentangling which deps to file a bug against; > maybe virt-what ? You need to make sure your t

Re: F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

2014-01-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Puppet (the client side, at least) should be installable with > relatively thin deps, so it can manage lightweight hosts... > > I am having trouble disentangling which deps to file a bug against; > maybe virt-what ? Alright, I think I know

Re: When to add a new package to comps?

2014-01-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:06:37 + (GMT) >> Do I first need to wait for the package to make it's way from >> updates-testing to updates, or can I go ahead and edit comps right >> away? > > You should wait until it's in stable for all stable releases, and the > next day after

Re: F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

2014-01-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > You need to make sure your transaction is pulling in classic ruby > rather than jruby. Well, ideally something in the dep data should indicate a preference, and the depsolver should handle that. What's happening however is that I am getti

Planned Outage: fedorapeople.org - 2014-01-21 22:00 UTC

2014-01-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Planned Outage: fedorapeople.org - 2014-01-21 22:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2014-01-21 22:00 UTC, which will last approximately 1 hour. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2014-01-21 22:00

Re: GIT development branches for packagers?

2014-01-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > There's happily no danger of running out of integers. Well, isn't there some technical limit? Does rpmvercmp work on arbitrarily long integers or is it limited to something like 4294967295? And is there some character limit on the Release tag? :-) (Now, to be fair, I don't

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-01-15)

2014-01-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > So, in the discussion of this, the following was presented as an > obstacle: > > 18:31:13 Requires: foo > 1.0-1.%{release} > 18:31:22 1.0-1.fc20.copr *satisfies* that Oh joy, ye olde repotag debate is back! Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedor

Re: F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

2014-01-17 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
Bill Nottingham writes: > Martin Langhoff (martin.langh...@gmail.com) said: >> Puppet (the client side, at least) should be installable with >> relatively thin deps, so it can manage lightweight hosts... >> >> I am having trouble disentangling which deps to file a bug against; >> maybe virt-what

Re: Odd BTRFS COW behaviour

2014-01-17 Thread James Hogarth
On 17 January 2014 17:52, James Hogarth wrote: > > > Filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054903 to get the > anaconda point of view and a decision on default layout for a BTRFS based > Fedora system. > > So I moved my home from being alongside root in subvolid=0 to being under root

Re: F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

2014-01-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 05:25:22PM -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Alright, I think I know what's happening: yum resolves the dep on ruby > by installing jruby AND ruby-mri >If I do yum install ruby ; yum install puppet, then things make sense. See We had this before and there was a workaround. I'

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-01-15)

2014-01-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 09:47 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 08:08:29AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > I feel like I tried several times to communicate this exact statement > > and was pretty much ignored. > > For the record, I said it too. > > > I'd love to reopen this

Re: NetworkManager Bridges in Fedora

2014-01-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 08:57 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote: > > On 17/01/14 07:30, Harald Hoyer wrote: > >> journalctl -b _SYSTEMD_UNIT=NetworkManager.service > > better use > > > > # journalctl -b -u NetworkManager > > > > "-u" has the advantage, that you can specify it multiple times with > > dif

Re: Re: F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

2014-01-17 Thread Mo Morsi
On 01/17/2014 05:34 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> You need to make sure your transaction is pulling in classic ruby >> rather than jruby. > Well, ideally something in the dep data should indicate a preference, > and the depsolver should han

Re: Re: F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

2014-01-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Mo Morsi wrote: > Yes as others have mentioned puppet requires ruby(release) which is > satisfied by both ruby-mri and jruby > ... which is fine. However yum install puppet should be pulling in only one. Not both. I would say almost everybody would expect

Re: Fedora 18 End of Life

2014-01-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
If that could be made easier, that'd be awesome. Storage is cheap. There should be a stock reply to that statement somewhere. IT support staff seem to hear it a lot. Besides the stuff Kevin listed, enterprize drives with good seek times and transfer rates cost more than typical consumer dri

Review swap: the_silver_searcher

2014-01-17 Thread Kenjiro NAKAYAMA
Sorry! I should start by reviewing other packages. anyone willing to review of swap reviews? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1044580 Thanks, Kenjiro nakayamakenj...@gmail.com writes: > Hi, > > I would like to include the package of the_silver_searcher in Fedora, > so can anyo

Re: Review swap: the_silver_searcher

2014-01-17 Thread Nakayama Kenjiro
Sorry again! I made a mistake to link. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1008063 Kenjiro On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Kenjiro NAKAYAMA wrote: > Sorry! > > I should start by reviewing other packages. > > anyone willing to review of swap reviews? > > [1] https://bugzilla.

Re: Re: F20: Puppet depchain pulls in Java

2014-01-17 Thread Michael Stahnke
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Mo Morsi wrote: >> >> Yes as others have mentioned puppet requires ruby(release) which is >> satisfied by both ruby-mri and jruby So should it just require ruby-mri? The divergence from the way up

directfb, fusionsound packaged, review for submition and sdl2 bridge

2014-01-17 Thread Juan Manuel Borges Caño
Hi, first so everyone know the news, SDL2 support for framebuffer (it is, wihtout X!!!) displaying is becoming lacky. The more near implementation to work is DirectFB (tested, small trivial patch to go) So, on another news, DirectFB has been *orphaned* for some time, yes, astonishing to me too ;)