EPEL epel beta report: 20140124 changes

2014-01-24 Thread EPEL Beta Report
Compose started at Fri Jan 24 08:15:03 UTC 2014 Broken deps for x86_64 -- ansible-1.4.3-1.el7.noarch requires python-httplib2 bodhi-server-0.9.7-1.el7.noarch requires python-simplemediawiki

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-24 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 01:00:29AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 04:53:47PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:26:24 -0800 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: I think ideally any process around this should have at least two parts:

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-24 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/24/2014 05:50 AM, Christopher Meng wrote: But, never deem that 5k components is the best number, comparing to other Linux, we are far away behind. They can be used still at the moment, why do we burden ourselves by the insignificant numbers? Quantity vs quality 5k - 7k was the number we

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-24 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/24/2014 05:05 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Agreed. It is atleast a metric that can be tweaked as opposed to pretending that all packages with inactive upstreams is a deep resource drain on Fedora. It's not pretending anything if you question what I suggest you get input from the arm

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-24 Thread David Tardon
Hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 01:00:29AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 04:53:47PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:26:24 -0800 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: I think ideally any process around this should have at least two

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.01.2014 09:18, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 01/24/2014 05:50 AM, Christopher Meng wrote: But, never deem that 5k components is the best number, comparing to other Linux, we are far away behind. They can be used still at the moment, why do we burden ourselves by the insignificant

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-24 Thread David Tardon
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:18:16AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 01/24/2014 05:50 AM, Christopher Meng wrote: But, never deem that 5k components is the best number, comparing to other Linux, we are far away behind. They can be used still at the moment, why do we burden ourselves by

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.01.2014 09:27, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: I say we remove those unmaintained components and if and when interest comes back to maintain those components then they will just have to pass through package review again. i say you remove *nothing* before you have asked for every single

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-24 Thread Tom Hughes
On 23/01/14 18:48, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Even the formation of the working groups was odd - the original decision to form them, as I read it, was that they were to explore the idea of doing these three streams but within days it

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Sergio Pascual
2014/1/24 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de Certainly, downgrading installations which already upgraded to faulty packages would not work. Ralf The situation (a broken system that cannot be upgraded) could be mitigated a little bit by using yum + system snapshots. You can rollback to a

Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Hughes
Hi all, I'm after some advice / ideas. When you install Fedora 20/21 and then launch gnome-software it has to go and download some metadata before it can show anything. This is a pretty bad first experience, considering subsequent runs of gnome-software just open straight away. GNOME Software

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Mathieu Bridon
Hi, On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 10:01 +, Richard Hughes wrote: There are two ways to fix the jarring UX. We could either ship the fedora package metadata pre-prepared in PackageKit, maybe using something like %ghost so the new metadata is ignored. The other way is to start the metadata

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Hughes
On 24 January 2014 10:03, Mathieu Bridon boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Rather than during the initial setup thing, why not start it at first boot, much earlier? We need to wait until the user has setup a network connection. Another option would be to have it done as the last step of the

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-24 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Fenzi wrote: I mean, I'm a maintainer for the Fedora apg package. Last upstream release was 2003. I very rarely touch it. Yet, from time to time I still use it here, I suspect, but do not know that others install and use it. It has no bugs currently opened against it. It's not failed a

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Hughes
On 24 January 2014 10:32, Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se wrote: I'm not familiar with APG but from your description it sounds like a perfect example of stable and reliable software – the best kind there is. Right, so it belongs in Fedora; I don't think anyone is arguing against that.

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-24 Thread Björn Persson
Colin Walters wrote: People have been constantly confused by whether Fedora does DHCP by default over the years, because we've flipped it several times. When we introduced it for clients/workstations, I consider it to have been a *massive* win to be able to plug in an ethernet cable and have it

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: So, what happened: * We are enabling SELinux enabled (enforcing) by default, a tool designed to prevent anything it does not like from happening. (Reread this carefully: The ONLY thing that tool is designed to do at

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread David Sommerseth
On 23/01/14 21:19, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 14:17 -0600, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 20:04 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: On 23/01/14 19:58, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:53:19 +0100 [...snip...] Might even be a worse conflict for other users,

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread David Sommerseth
On 23/01/14 23:59, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 16:58 -0500, Brian J. Murrell wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 20:04 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: Nope, several packages depends on the bluez-5.13-1 package. Indeed. However I could probably live without gnome-bluetooth if blueman

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread Bastien Nocera
- Original Message - snip I actually think Cinnamon used blueman in F19 for Bluetooth management, iirc. Nope. Which is why it broke when I bumped the soname of the gnome-bluetooth libraries. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread David Sommerseth
On 23/01/14 23:16, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jan 23, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Brian J. Murrell br...@interlinx.bc.ca wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 19:53 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: As a side note, it also needs to be discussed how such a key feature of the bluetooth stack could go unnoticed through

Source string contextualization

2014-01-24 Thread Nilamdyuti Goswami
Hi all, While translating some of the fedora packages we often come across some source strings whose context or meaning is not clear. This results in wrong translations which is discovered later while using the actual application. This in turn effects the concerned application. To solve

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 24.1.2014 11:03, Mathieu Bridon napsal(a): Hi, On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 10:01 +, Richard Hughes wrote: There are two ways to fix the jarring UX. We could either ship the fedora package metadata pre-prepared in PackageKit, maybe using something like %ghost so the new metadata is ignored.

Re: Security update process without CVEs

2014-01-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Christopher Meng wrote: Which poor sod will be the victim in 7 days at least before pushing to stable? ;) Then comes another question, does security updates need to be treat as special? It's just an original update with a tag security alert, but users still need to wait 7 days unless they

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: I'm confused, are you talking about: https://fedorahosted.org/pkgdb2/ ? If this is now on Fedora Hosted, that's a good thing. :-) Thank you for that! So you don't have to feel targeted (anymore), you already did the right thing. Kevin Kofler -- devel

Re: Security update process without CVEs

2014-01-24 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: We need direct stable pushes back! No. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Right. But is it possible to ship a bluez4 package and rebuild the dependencies against that after the release? No, because the maintainers said the 2 versions are not parallel- installable. (The original plan was to make the packages Conflict, which is why we ended up

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: Even if we can do it on the mirrors, we have no way to 'recall' a package from systems where it's already been installed (of course in the current case that wouldn't have worked anyway, but we're discussing the generic case here). Crazy idea of the day: Maybe our update

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: TBH this has always been the one of Kevin's Big Book Of Update Policy Complaints I find the most baffling. If we know you managed to screw up your update once, why exactly would we just trust you to get it right the *second* time without any testing? * If the package is

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
drago01 wrote: The feature is called security. By your logic everyone should be root, For home user machines, that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing (but it would mean fixing the software that special-cases the root user improperly for no good reason). Alternatively, the kernel could be

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread David Sommerseth
On 24/01/14 08:31, Bastien Nocera wrote: FWIW, the HFP/HSP support is missing in PulseAudio, not in BlueZ for F20. Can you please shed some more light on this. From what I could grasp out of the freedesktop bug, it was a bluez bug. And PulseAudio says bluez4 is needed to get the handsfree

Re: .spec file Source0 magic for github release source tarballs?

2014-01-24 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/23/2014 05:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 11:09 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Miroslav Suchý msu...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/21/2014 06:01 PM, Kaleb KEITHLEY wrote: Take, for example,

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-24 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/24/2014 10:39 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 24 January 2014 10:32, Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se wrote: I'm not familiar with APG but from your description it sounds like a perfect example of stable and reliable software – the best kind there is. Right, so it belongs in

[Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 24. Jan 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2014-01-24 Thread Phil Knirsch
Agenda: - Discussion of WG PRDs and impact on Base https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_PRD https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Workstation_PRD https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server/Product_Requirements_Document

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Hughes
On 24 January 2014 13:18, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: So I get to the point I'm trying to see and understand what role do distribution play in that future for Gnome and why is Gnome contributors wasting so much time and energy in distribution politics and compatability as

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Hughes
On 24 January 2014 12:20, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: Not sure I like the idea. I install the system, eager to start using it, but in background will run some service downloading some data, which will make my system sluggish. That would be user experience far from ideal ... In this

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.01.2014 13:56, schrieb Kevin Kofler: Alternatively, the kernel could be patched to give admin users (either defined as members of the wheel group as now, or by some additional property that would be set for the same users by default) some strategic capabilities such as dac_override.

Re: Source string contextualization

2014-01-24 Thread Kévin Raymond
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Nilamdyuti Goswami ngosw...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all, While translating some of the fedora packages we often come across some source strings whose context or meaning is not clear. This results in wrong translations which is discovered later while using the

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 10:01 +, Richard Hughes wrote: Hi all, I'm after some advice / ideas. When you install Fedora 20/21 and then launch gnome-software it has to go and download some metadata before it can show anything. This is a pretty bad first experience, considering subsequent

[perl-Test-CheckManifest] Upstream update.

2014-01-24 Thread corsepiu
commit df410518ce626eb5032933ebe831a7c585336347 Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org Date: Fri Jan 24 15:12:19 2014 +0100 Upstream update. perl-Test-CheckManifest.spec |7 +-- 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git

[perl-Devel-LexAlias] Created tag perl-Devel-LexAlias-0.05-1.el7

2014-01-24 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Devel-LexAlias-0.05-1.el7' was created pointing to: 6499918... update to 0.05 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

File Test-CheckManifest-1.28.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by corsepiu

2014-01-24 Thread corsepiu
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Test-CheckManifest: 5d26d71cede4310f7c8463cac283f5c9 Test-CheckManifest-1.28.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Hughes
On 24 January 2014 14:10, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: Does it need all the data upfront ? That's a good question. Not much at all just to show the overview page. Maybe you can have a small place with initial metadata that contains a subset of the packages and is quick to download so you

[perl-Digest-BubbleBabble] Created tag perl-Digest-BubbleBabble-0.02-6.el7

2014-01-24 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Digest-BubbleBabble-0.02-6.el7' was created pointing to: 46f5bc3... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 14:40 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 24.01.2014 13:56, schrieb Kevin Kofler: Alternatively, the kernel could be patched to give admin users (either defined as members of the wheel group as now, or by some additional property that would be set for the same users by

[perl-Test-CheckManifest/f20] (2 commits) ...Upstream update.

2014-01-24 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes: df41051... Upstream update. (*) e790bea... Upstream update. (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: [389-devel] 389-ds-base: /bin/sh scripts should use . instead of source

2014-01-24 Thread Rich Megginson
On 01/24/2014 04:13 AM, Roberto Polli wrote: Hi @all, iirc /bin/sh scripts should use . instead of source (see http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/V3_chap02.html#dot ) To use source you should change the interpreter to be /bin/bash

[perl-Digest-MD2] Created tag perl-Digest-MD2-2.03-21.el7

2014-01-24 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Digest-MD2-2.03-21.el7' was created pointing to: 06fa598... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 24.1.2014 15:05, Richard Hughes napsal(a): On 24 January 2014 12:20, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: Not sure I like the idea. I install the system, eager to start using it, but in background will run some service downloading some data, which will make my system sluggish. That would

Re: Source string contextualization

2014-01-24 Thread Nilamdyuti Goswami
On 24-01-2014 07:37 অপৰাহ্ন, Kévin Raymond wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Nilamdyuti Goswami ngosw...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all, While translating some of the fedora packages we often come across some source strings whose context or meaning is not clear. This results in wrong

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/24/2014 01:39 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: Even if we can do it on the mirrors, we have no way to 'recall' a package from systems where it's already been installed (of course in the current case that wouldn't have worked anyway, but we're discussing the generic case

Re: [389-devel] 389-ds-base: /bin/sh scripts should use . instead of source

2014-01-24 Thread Rob Crittenden
Roberto Polli wrote: On Friday 24 January 2014 07:28:51 Rich Megginson wrote: https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47511 sorry for the double posting :( I just cloned the master repository and it's not fixed. This is just the tracking ticket for the work. Looks like a candidate patch has

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.01.2014 15:55, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: On 01/24/2014 01:39 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: Even if we can do it on the mirrors, we have no way to 'recall' a package from systems where it's already been installed (of course in the current case that wouldn't have worked

gitflow and branch naming conventions

2014-01-24 Thread Kamil Paral
So, we're going the gitflow way [1][2]. However, when I looked at our bitbucket repositories today, only the libtaskotron branch uses 'develop' branch, all other projects use only 'master' branch - even taskotron-trigger or task-rpmlint. Does it mean we use gitflow only for libtaskotron? Or is

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-24 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/24/2014 01:51 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 24 January 2014 13:18, Jóhann B. Guðmundssonjohan...@gmail.com wrote: So I get to the point I'm trying to see and understand what role do distribution play in that future for Gnome and why is Gnome contributors wasting so much time and energy

Re: [389-devel] 389-ds-base: /bin/sh scripts should use . instead of source

2014-01-24 Thread Roberto Polli
On Friday 24 January 2014 10:02:02 Rob Crittenden wrote: Roberto Polli wrote: On Friday 24 January 2014 07:28:51 Rich Megginson wrote: https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47511 This is just the tracking ticket for the work. Ok. Hope won't take too much (for now I'm fine as I've fixed my

I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I wrote a systemd unit file to enable it, and to allow a user to disable the feature if he wants. # cat /usr/lib/systemd/system/selinux-checkreqprot.service [Unit] Description=SELinux check actual protection flags applied by kernel, rather than

Re: I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 24.01.14 10:22, Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) wrote: Heya, Do we really need a service for this? Can't this be done instead via a tmpfiles snippet that uses f and the extra argument at the end? I mean I am not convinced it's worth involving shell here. Also the canonical way to

Re: I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-24 Thread Benjamin Lewis
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, Daniel J Walsh wrote: I wrote a systemd unit file to enable it, and to allow a user to disable the feature if he wants. # cat /usr/lib/systemd/system/selinux-checkreqprot.service [Unit] Description=SELinux check actual protection flags applied by kernel, rather than

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:01:09AM +, Richard Hughes wrote: The downside to shipping prepared metadata is that the package size is larger, and that the metadata would be *very* out of date after a year or so. I don't see the problem with stale metadata of this kind. It's not like a

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/24/2014 04:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 24.01.2014 15:55, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: On 01/24/2014 01:39 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: Even if we can do it on the mirrors, we have no way to 'recall' a package from systems where it's already been installed (of course in

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Hughes
On 24 January 2014 15:39, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: BTW. Reminded by this thread, I've added appdata files for the calibre package. In the appdata file I have a screenshot: screenshot type=default width=1200

Re: I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:22:56AM -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: ExecStart=/bin/sh -c '/bin/echo $CHECKREQPROT /sys/fs/selinux/checkreqprot' ExecStart=/bin/sh -c '/bin/echo ${CHECKREQPROT} /sys/fs/selinux/checkreqprot' I think we really need an echo command with sudo syntax. I keep a local

Re: I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-24 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/24/2014 03:44 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:22:56AM -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: ExecStart=/bin/sh -c '/bin/echo $CHECKREQPROT /sys/fs/selinux/checkreqprot' ExecStart=/bin/sh -c '/bin/echo ${CHECKREQPROT} /sys/fs/selinux/checkreqprot' I think we

Re: I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I wrote a systemd unit file to enable it, and to allow a user to disable the feature if he wants. ... why is this not a sysctl? Bill -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/24/2014 10:32 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Fri, 24.01.14 10:22, Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) wrote: Heya, Do we really need a service for this? Can't this be done instead via a tmpfiles snippet that uses f and the extra

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.01.2014 16:40, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: On 01/24/2014 04:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: a) This would blow away all installed packages, which aren't available in permanently enabled repos that is not true, try it out Been there many times no, you did not and you did also not in your

Re: I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here is the request from upstream to enable this feature in Rawhide, with an explanation of what it does. Android is starting to apply execmem and friends to the non-Dalvik components (i.e. non-Java components, primarily the native system

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 03:44:07PM +, Richard Hughes wrote: On 24 January 2014 15:39, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: BTW. Reminded by this thread, I've added appdata files for the calibre package. In the appdata file I have a screenshot: screenshot type=default

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Hughes
On 24 January 2014 16:08, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: I was running the rawhide version... Before I had gnome-software-3.11.1-1.fc21.x86_64, and now I upgraded to 3.11.4-2.fc21.x86_64. Unfortunately 3.11.4-2.fc21.x86_64 crashes all the time for me. Yup, sorry about

[perl-Test-Warnings] Created tag perl-Test-Warnings-0.010-1.el7

2014-01-24 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-Warnings-0.010-1.el7' was created pointing to: 3c29020... Update to 0.010 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Source string contextualization

2014-01-24 Thread Kévin Raymond
It is *just* about improving the source code? It is about providing Translators' comment or precise context to the confusing source strings in the source code of the application so that the resultant pot/po files have that context and it becomes easy for the translators to translate the

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/24/2014 04:57 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 24.01.2014 16:40, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: On 01/24/2014 04:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: a) This would blow away all installed packages, which aren't available in permanently enabled repos that is not true, try it out Been there many times

[perl-YAML-LibYAML] Created tag perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.41-1.el7

2014-01-24 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.41-1.el7' was created pointing to: 0c4fe66... Update to 0.41 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.01.2014 17:12, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: On 01/24/2014 04:57 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 24.01.2014 16:40, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: On 01/24/2014 04:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: a) This would blow away all installed packages, which aren't available in permanently enabled repos that is

Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-24 Thread Lukas Zapletal
One note on that topic: I found myself giving karma to an update, while I tested different version (actually a completely different build). It would be good if giving karma would require to insert a hash or something generated from the package itself (rpm -q -qf something package), header or

[perl-Test-Unit-Lite] Created tag perl-Test-Unit-Lite-0.12-16.el7

2014-01-24 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-Unit-Lite-0.12-16.el7' was created pointing to: 6b5b806... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 1051598] Perl scripts misidentified as perl modules

2014-01-24 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1051598 Jeff Makey j...@makey.net changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||1057718 Referenced Bugs:

Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.01.2014 17:34, schrieb Lukas Zapletal: One note on that topic: I found myself giving karma to an update, while I tested different version (actually a completely different build). It would be good if giving karma would require to insert a hash or something generated from the package

Re: Source string contextualization

2014-01-24 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Kévin Raymond shai...@fedoraproject.orgwrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Nilamdyuti Goswami ngosw...@redhat.com wrote: To solve this issue, we have formed a Fedora SIG named Source String Contextualizing Group [1] aimed at providing concise yet

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: In this instance, when run with background attribues, PackageKit uses idle bandwidth and with a lower priority than if the transaction was a foreground task. Huh, we have a concept of idle bandwidth? Who/how manages

Re: .spec file Source0 magic for github release source tarballs?

2014-01-24 Thread Alec Leamas
Agreed. But the difference is that using full commits a history rewrite will always be detected. Using a tag is making it possible for upstream to bind the same tag to a different commit. And since it's possible, it will happen. It's a shame there is no way to block forced updates on github.

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 24, 2014, at 4:47 AM, David Sommerseth dav...@redhat.com wrote: On 23/01/14 23:16, Chris Murphy wrote: As far as I know there isn't an explicit test case or release criteria that covers this functionality, or it would have been discovered. Why it's not a test case is a valid

Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-24 Thread Lukas Zapletal
that could be easier solved by force anybody to use easy-karma instead the webinterface because that only asks for the current installed packages Oh, I did not know fedora-easy-karma. We should advertise with the update tickets on Bodhi perhaps. Actually this could improve things. -- Later,

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-24 Thread Eric Smith
On Jan 23, 2014 2:33 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:03:02 +0100 Thorsten Leemhuis fed...@leemhuis.info wrote: I'm still undecided if I overall like Fedora.next or fear it. But more and more I tend to the latter position and wonder if it might be wise to slow

[perl-Test-Distribution] Created tag perl-Test-Distribution-2.00-14.el7

2014-01-24 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-Distribution-2.00-14.el7' was created pointing to: 2f42a73... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: perl-Readonly in EL 7

2014-01-24 Thread Paul Howarth
Hi Ken, On 24/01/14 16:29, Ken Dreyer wrote: Hi folks, RHEL 7 does not ship perl-Readonly. This package is a dependency for perl-boolean, which is a dependency for perl-MongoDB, so I'd like to have it in EPEL 7. Would one of you mind branching and building it for EPEL 7? Both perl-Readonly

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.comwrote: On Jan 24, 2014, at 4:47 AM, David Sommerseth dav...@redhat.com wrote: On 23/01/14 23:16, Chris Murphy wrote: By all means, software does and needs to evolve, and it can break. I have full understanding for this.

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 05:50:02PM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: In this instance, when run with background attribues, PackageKit uses idle bandwidth and with a lower priority than if the transaction was a

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:18:16 +, \Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\ johan...@gmail.com wrote: We should be able to calculate the number of components we as in distribution actually can manage. We just need to agree on average contribute time which could be 2.5 hours a day 5 days of the week or

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 12:21 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: On 23/01/14 21:19, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 14:17 -0600, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 20:04 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: On 23/01/14 19:58, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:53:19 +0100

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:58:07 -0700 Eric Smith space...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 23, 2014 2:33 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: This is not practical. Lots of people are thinking about a fedora.next, qa folks are coding away, lots of people who normally would be working on the next

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 10:58 +0100, Sergio Pascual wrote: 2014/1/24 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de Certainly, downgrading installations which already upgraded to faulty packages would not work. Ralf The situation (a broken system

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 13:36 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: TBH this has always been the one of Kevin's Big Book Of Update Policy Complaints I find the most baffling. If we know you managed to screw up your update once, why exactly would we just trust you to get it right

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread David Sommerseth
On 24/01/14 18:30, Dan Williams wrote: On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 12:21 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: On 23/01/14 21:19, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 14:17 -0600, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 20:04 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: On 23/01/14 19:58, Frank Murphy wrote: On

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-24 Thread Eric Smith
On Jan 24, 2014 10:29 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: The things they are working on have been known for years, but our 6 month release cycle with no hope of being able to work on tooling hasn't allowed them to do so. Thanks for the clarification. I'm certainly on board with lengthening

Re: Announce: fedostree/rpm-ostree v2014.3

2014-01-24 Thread drago01
From the website: Although yum is installed, it will operate in read-only mode. Do not attempt to use it at the moment. See Seems like the part talking about it is somehow missing i.e see what? ;) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

2014-01-24 Thread Paolo Bonzini
Il 24/01/2014 14:05, David Sommerseth ha scritto: FWIW, the HFP/HSP support is missing in PulseAudio, not in BlueZ for F20. Can you please shed some more light on this. From what I could grasp out of the freedesktop bug, it was a bluez bug. And PulseAudio says bluez4 is needed to get the

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Fabian Deutsch
Am Freitag, den 24.01.2014, 00:55 +0100 schrieb Kevin Kofler: it is time to analyze the fallout from the following catastrophic Fedora 20 regression: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054350 rpm scriptlets are exiting with status 127 Hey, can't we add a default boot entry which

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Fabian Deutsch fabian.deut...@gmx.de wrote: Am Freitag, den 24.01.2014, 00:55 +0100 schrieb Kevin Kofler: it is time to analyze the fallout from the following catastrophic Fedora 20 regression: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054350 rpm

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