Re: OpenCASCADE and applications depending on it (was: LinuxCNC RTAI kernel)

2014-02-14 Thread Richard Shaw
Ok, the smesh from sourceforge doesn't appear to be maintained anymore but I have been patching it to keep it working with freecad but checking freecad master they've continued to modify it such that I'm not sure my version will work for much longer. Now the question is what to do about that... I m

Re: Out of virtual memory on ARM builder

2014-02-14 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 04:00:09PM -0600, Mátyás Selmeci wrote: > This may be a stupid question, but can you solve this by putting > more swap on those builders? It depends. If the system is sufficiently resource constrained that malloc() is actually telling you that you're not going to the moon

Re: Out of virtual memory on ARM builder

2014-02-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:00:09 -0600 Mátyás Selmeci wrote: > This may be a stupid question, but can you solve this by putting more > swap on those builders? Possibly so yeah. Currently they have 4GB mem and 4GB swap. Ideally it would be good to fix in the package or tools though, so people with

Re: Out of virtual memory on ARM builder

2014-02-14 Thread Mátyás Selmeci
On 02/14/2014 02:53 PM, Dmitry Butskoy wrote: Dennis Gilmore wrote: The arm builders all have 4gb of ram. how much ram should the tests need? BTW, some "big" application -- seamonkey (former mozilla/netscape suite) -- fails to build on arm due to the same reason -- not enough memory on the b

Re: advertisement in packaged software (e.g. Firefox)

2014-02-14 Thread Lars Seipel
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 09:01:15PM +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: > > The fact that the package is calling home (whether or not the location > > of the IP is checked), is a form of tracking. Particularly since firefox > > updates are being handled by Fedora and there is no need for our version > >

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-02-14 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 02/14/2014 01:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 13:02 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On 01/28/2014 03:12 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 28 January 2014 18:43, Przemek Klosowski wrote: There are two separate issues here: 'abandonment', and 'GUIness'. As to the latter, I th

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-02-14 Thread Andreas Tunek
2014-02-14 19:41 GMT+01:00 Adam Williamson : > Do you actually want to use a tool like Software to install gcc? > > I just can't see why you would. You know gcc is what you want. You don't > need a shiny description and some screenshots and user reviews on a 1-5 > star scale. 'yum install gcc' see

EPEL Fedora 6 updates-testing report

2014-02-14 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing: Age URL 663 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6 93 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-12079/bip-0.8.9-1.el6 16 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA

EPEL Fedora 5 updates-testing report

2014-02-14 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing: Age URL 663 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5 154 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11560/fail2ban-0.8.10-4.el5 118 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/

Re: Out of virtual memory on ARM builder

2014-02-14 Thread Dmitry Butskoy
Dennis Gilmore wrote: The arm builders all have 4gb of ram. how much ram should the tests need? BTW, some "big" application -- seamonkey (former mozilla/netscape suite) -- fails to build on arm due to the same reason -- not enough memory on the build host. ~buc -- devel mailing list devel

Re: The F20 Network Bridge is Failing down!

2014-02-14 Thread Ken Dreyer
What version of libnl3 do you have installed? I was having bridge problems too this week. I downgraded libnl3 from 3.2.24-1.fc20 to 3.2.21-2.fc20 and restarted the NetworkManager service, and then my bridge worked. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1063290 - Ken On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Jo

Re: The F20 Network Bridge is Failing down!

2014-02-14 Thread Jon
I've also noticed a regression in my network bridge setup. Use bridging for both virt-manager, and development work with aarch64 bringup (emulated ARMv8). Have seen this happen on two recently updated f20 systems. I'm using traditional network-scripts, and what happens is the physical interface ap

Re: ModemManager update

2014-02-14 Thread poma
On 13.02.2014 19:56, Dan Williams wrote: > On Sat, 2014-02-01 at 15:03 +0100, poma wrote: >> With a companion libraries. ;) >> >> ↗ libmbim-1.6.0 >> ↗ libqmi-1.8.0 >> ↗ ModemManager-1.2.0 >> >> >> poma >> >> >> Oh Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling >> From glen to glen, and down the mounta

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-02-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 13:02 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: >> On 01/28/2014 03:12 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: >> >> > On 28 January 2014 18:43, Przemek Klosowski >> > wrote: >> > > There are two separate issues here: 'abandonment', and 'GU

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-02-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 13:02 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 01/28/2014 03:12 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > > > On 28 January 2014 18:43, Przemek Klosowski > > wrote: > > > There are two separate issues here: 'abandonment', and 'GUIness'. As to > > > the > > > latter, I think it's a mistake t

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-02-14 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 01/28/2014 03:12 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 28 January 2014 18:43, Przemek Klosowski wrote: There are two separate issues here: 'abandonment', and 'GUIness'. As to the latter, I think it's a mistake to have a primary application installation tool that only deals with GUI apps, because it r

Re: Proposal to WGs and rel-eng: Move 90-default.preset from systemd to fedora-release

2014-02-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 04:02:47PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > That seems reasonable, and in that case, something like "fedora-presets" > > and "fedora-workstation-presets", etc., seems appropriate, and the > > corresponding release package could pull them in. > What about my proposal to drop th

Re: [stable branch idea] Re: Branched iso

2014-02-14 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sex, 2014-02-14 at 14:36 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > Hi Sérgio, > > On 02/14/2014 02:28 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > sorry I don't have time to follow fedora.next tread / discussion , btw I > > also have a big idea for fedora.stable , pretty simple idea, to a fedora > > releases m

Re: libicu soname bump in rawhide

2014-02-14 Thread David Tardon
Hi, On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 01:40:26PM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:41:09PM +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: > > As pre-announced on devel@ I'm updating libicu to 52.1 > > Note, e.g. texlive hasn't been rebuilt yet in rawhide, it is broken for more > than 2 days now, which e.

Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-14 Thread David Tardon
Hi, On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 08:47:25AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 21:44:12 -0800 > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > icu requires quite a large number of rebuilds, including some tricky > > ones (I just did tracker, which has to be bootstrapped, and > > libreoffice is another...)

Re: Out of virtual memory on ARM builder

2014-02-14 Thread Florian Weimer
On 02/14/2014 05:30 PM, Jerry James wrote: But memory, now, that's an issue. All I know for sure is that the x86_64 and i686 builds succeeded, so those boxes had "enough" memory; the ARM build failed, so that box did not have "enough" memory. Based on the data presented so far, it could also

Re: Out of virtual memory on ARM builder

2014-02-14 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > It sounds rather ill-defined :-) What counts as large amounts of > memory or CPU? > Yes, I really don't know. CPU isn't so much the concern, anyway. Let those builder churn away for long periods of time. Bwahahahaha! But memory, no

Re: Out of virtual memory on ARM builder

2014-02-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 09:10:23AM -0700, Jerry James wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Jerry James wrote: > > > There's no parallel make involved. Drat. Well, I'll figure out which > > test(s) are eating up the memory and disable it/them on ARM, I guess. > > Thanks for the replies, ev

Re: Proposal to WGs and rel-eng: Move 90-default.preset from systemd to fedora-release

2014-02-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 15:22:26 +, Colin Walters wrote: That would mean that if we wanted to enable a new service by default, admins wouldn't get it on upgrades. Which may be fine with the traditional rpm-on-client-side installs. I don't think that has to be the case. If the files i

[Base] Fedora Base Design Working Group (2014-02-14) meeting minutes and logs

2014-02-14 Thread Phil Knirsch
Covered a quick update on the cleanup work with some nice progress (first changes landing!). Moved over to a quick recap of DevConf. Excellent conf there with a panel of the Fedora WG representatives for Q&A. Last but not least requirements checkup, at the moment mainly focused on rel-eng, s

Re: Out of virtual memory on ARM builder

2014-02-14 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Jerry James wrote: > There's no parallel make involved. Drat. Well, I'll figure out which > test(s) are eating up the memory and disable it/them on ARM, I guess. > Thanks for the replies, everybody. > A little bit of digging into the sources shows that I just

Re: Out of virtual memory on ARM builder

2014-02-14 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Dan Horák wrote: > I think it was g++ (or the ld linker) what went out of memory, not > unexpected with 4GB memory plus some swap, 4 CPUs and parallel make. > Jerry, can you retry with parallel make disabled? > Actually, the failure occurred while running %check

Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 21:44:12 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > icu requires quite a large number of rebuilds, including some tricky > ones (I just did tracker, which has to be bootstrapped, and > libreoffice is another...), so I think it's reasonable to assume the > icu maintainer isn't going to be

Re: Proposal to WGs and rel-eng: Move 90-default.preset from systemd to fedora-release

2014-02-14 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Matthew Miller wrote: That seems reasonable, and in that case, something like "fedora-presets" and "fedora-workstation-presets", etc., seems appropriate, and the corresponding release package could pull them in. What about my proposal t

Re: ModemManager update

2014-02-14 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 19:00 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Qui, 2014-02-13 at 12:56 -0600, Dan Williams wrote: > > On Sat, 2014-02-01 at 15:03 +0100, poma wrote: > > > With a companion libraries. ;) > > > > > > ↗ libmbim-1.6.0 > > > ↗ libqmi-1.8.0 > > > ↗ ModemManager-1.2.0 > > > > > > > > > p

Re: Proposal to WGs and rel-eng: Move 90-default.preset from systemd to fedora-release

2014-02-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthew Miller wrote: > That seems reasonable, and in that case, something like "fedora-presets" > and "fedora-workstation-presets", etc., seems appropriate, and the > corresponding release package could pull them in. What about my proposal to drop the preset directly onto the file system (but in

Re: libicu soname bump in rawhide

2014-02-14 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 13:40 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:41:09PM +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: > > As pre-announced on devel@ I'm updating libicu to 52.1 > > When a shared library has so many dependencies and the SONAME has been > bumped already ~ 50 times Well, icu went s

Re: Proposal to WGs and rel-eng: Move 90-default.preset from systemd to fedora-release

2014-02-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 02:30:47AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > It really depends on how much it changes, I really do not like > > > updating fedora-release very much. > Its something that defines the release, which is done when the release > is out, we did need to make changes recently to su

Re: libicu soname bump in rawhide

2014-02-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:41:09PM +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: > As pre-announced on devel@ I'm updating libicu to 52.1 When a shared library has so many dependencies and the SONAME has been bumped already ~ 50 times, wouldn't it be appropriate time to talk to upstream to consider providing stable A

[Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 14. Feb 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2014-02-14 Thread Phil Knirsch
Agenda: - Cleanup status/report - DevConf meet up summary - Requirements/changes Base needs in Fedora (https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1178) As time permits: - FPC recommendation for future - Open Floor Thanks & regards, Phil -- Philipp Knirsch | Tel.: +49-711-96437-4

Re: advertisement in packaged software (e.g. Firefox)

2014-02-14 Thread Ian Malone
On 14 February 2014 06:08, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 02/13/2014 07:50 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> >> >> Le Jeu 13 février 2014 19:40, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >>> A party who is molesting me with ads and tries t

Self Introduction: Leon Weber

2014-02-14 Thread Leon Weber
Hi everyone, I’m a Fedora user for about 1.5 years, and I was missing some software that was available in Debian/Ubuntu but not in Fedora, because it uses historical technologies (shadow authentication instead of PAM, …), mainly my favourite screen locker. Hence, I decided to rewrite it for Fedor

Re: Out of virtual memory on ARM builder

2014-02-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 01:47:51PM -0700, Jerry James wrote: > What do I do about this? > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=6526911 > > [While building and running tests]: > > CC ../build/flintxx/test/t-traits > CC ../build/flintxx/test/t-fmpzxx > virtual memory ex

Re: advertisement in packaged software (e.g. Firefox)

2014-02-14 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > From the original post at [1]: > > "Directory Tiles will instead suggest pre-packaged content for > first-time users. Some of these tile placements will be from the > Mozilla ecosystem, some will be popular websites in a given geographic > location, and some will b

Re: Out of virtual memory on ARM builder

2014-02-14 Thread Dan Horák
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 02:51:36 -0600 Dennis Gilmore wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:47:51 -0700 > Jerry James wrote: > > > What do I do about this? > > > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=6526911 > > > > [While building and

Re: Out of virtual memory on ARM builder

2014-02-14 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:47:51 -0700 Jerry James wrote: > What do I do about this? > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=6526911 > > [While building and running tests]: > > CC ../build/flintxx/test/t-traits > CC ../build

Re: Proposal to WGs and rel-eng: Move 90-default.preset from systemd to fedora-release

2014-02-14 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:31:31 -0500 Adam Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 13:44 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:39:40 +0100 > > Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > > > Based on these arguments, I'd like to propose to move this fil