Re: rfc: EFI System partition, FAT32, repair and non-persistent mount

2014-03-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 20:52 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > Exactly. What needs it to automount and why? Kernel updates. > Isn't Chris's main > point that Fedora shouldn't neet to mount the ESP in the first place? In a perfect world, yes, but right now, the grub config file is on it. If yo

fail2ban + firewalld suggestions needed

2014-03-18 Thread Orion Poplawski
fail2ban doesn't work out of the box with firewalld. However, we can drop a config file at /etc/fail2ban/jail.d/fedora-firewalld.conf to enable it. I'm wondering: - Do we do this by default, because firewalld is the default firewall in Fedora? I would not want to require firewalld though becaus

Re: rfc: EFI System partition, FAT32, repair and non-persistent mount

2014-03-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 18, 2014, at 10:31 PM, William Brown wrote: > On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 21:39 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Fedora takes a different approach though, and will mount an explicit > boot partition to /boot and the ESP to /boot/efi, and do so > unconditionally without involving auto

Re: rfc: EFI System partition, FAT32, repair and non-persistent mount

2014-03-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 18, 2014, at 6:27 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: >> On Tue, 18.03.14 15:07, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: >> Fedora takes a different approach though, and will mount an explicit boot partition to /boo

Re: rfc: EFI System partition, FAT32, repair and non-persistent mount

2014-03-18 Thread William Brown
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 21:39 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >>> Fedora takes a different approach though, and will mount an explicit > >>> boot partition to /boot and the ESP to /boot/efi, and do so > >>> unconditionally without involving autofs. Fedora could add > >>> "x-systemd-automount" to the m

Re: rfc: EFI System partition, FAT32, repair and non-persistent mount

2014-03-18 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 17:27 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Lennart Poettering >> wrote: >> > On Tue, 18.03.14 15:07, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: >> > >> >> > Fedora takes a different a

Re: rfc: EFI System partition, FAT32, repair and non-persistent mount

2014-03-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 18, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 18.03.14 15:07, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > >>> Fedora takes a different approach though, and will mount an explicit >>> boot partition to /boot and the ESP to /boot/efi, and do so >>> unconditionally without i

Self Introduction: Justin Brown

2014-03-18 Thread Justin Brown
Hello, I've been a user of Fedora for a number of years and have been involved in packaging RPMs for just as long. I'm looking to get involved with the Fedora Project and am seeking sponsorship to get package maintainer status. I'm mostly focused on updating packages for Rawhide to keep them

Re: Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-03-18)

2014-03-18 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Reposting from , for those of you who > prefer email to the web. :) Perhaps these should be syndicated to Planet Fedora, for those of us who don't mind the web? Actually, I swear I've seen Fedora Magazine

Re: Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-03-18)

2014-03-18 Thread Mukundan Ragavan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Bonus mailing list questions! > > Is it helpful to post this here? If so, is full text important, or > is posting a link to the web site fine? Would it be helpful to > post it to other lists as well or instead? What about repurposing > the defun

Re: Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-03-18)

2014-03-18 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 16:50 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > Is it helpful to post this here? If so, is full text important, or is > posting a link to the web site fine? Would it be helpful to post it to > other > lists as well or instead? What about repurposing the defunct "news" > mailing > list fo

Re: Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-03-18)

2014-03-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 16:50 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > Flock 2014 registration and talk proposals open > --- > > In case you missed the article in Fedora Magazine a few days ago… don’t miss > it. The website at , and the t

Re: rfc: EFI System partition, FAT32, repair and non-persistent mount

2014-03-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 17:27 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > On Tue, 18.03.14 15:07, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > >> > Fedora takes a different approach though, and will mount an explicit > >> > boot partition

Re: rfc: EFI System partition, FAT32, repair and non-persistent mount

2014-03-18 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 18.03.14 15:07, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > >> > Fedora takes a different approach though, and will mount an explicit >> > boot partition to /boot and the ESP to /boot/efi, and do so >> > unconditionally witho

Re: rfc: EFI System partition, FAT32, repair and non-persistent mount

2014-03-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 18.03.14 15:07, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > Fedora takes a different approach though, and will mount an explicit > > boot partition to /boot and the ESP to /boot/efi, and do so > > unconditionally without involving autofs. Fedora could add > > "x-systemd-automount" t

bodhi 0.9.9 deployed

2014-03-18 Thread Luke Macken
Hi all, A new version of bodhi has just hit production. This release contains a few karma-related changes that packagers should be aware of. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates Summary of changes -- * Reset the karma to 0 when new builds are added to an existing update (M

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Security Policy In The Installer

2014-03-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 10:57 -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 02:52:43PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > "Well, I guess I'd better go read the docs." > > > > "That was a clear, short and cogent explanation! I learned something, an > > now I can continue!" > > I clearly

Re: rfc: EFI System partition, FAT32, repair and non-persistent mount

2014-03-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 18, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 17.03.14 23:02, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > >> 1. EFI System partition is being mounted persistently at /boot/efi, >> and I'd like to put an end to that because there's no good reason to >> do it. None of the

Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-03-18)

2014-03-18 Thread Matthew Miller
Reposting from , for those of you who prefer email to the web. :) Fedora is big project, and it’s hard to follow it all. This new Fedora Magazine feature will highlight interesting happenings in five different areas every week. It won’t be comprehensive news cove

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-19)

2014-03-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2014-03-19 18:00 UTC' Links to all tickets below

Re: over-riding an autodep for a sharedlib?

2014-03-18 Thread Josh Stone
On 03/18/2014 08:30 AM, Kaleb KEITHLEY wrote: > > the samba.spec has: > >%package vfs-glusterfs >.. >Requires: glusterfs-api >= 3.4.0.16 >Requires: glusterfs >= 3.4.0.16 >.. > > The samba-vfs-glusterfs has these Requires (rpm -q --requires > samba-vfs-gluster) >glusterfs

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Optional Javadocs

2014-03-18 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2014-03-18 15:31 GMT+01:00 Jaroslav Reznik : > = Proposed System Wide Change: Optional Javadocs = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OptionalJavadocs I suppose shipping API documentation for end-user applications really doesn't make sense. Any reasonably-widely-used library should contain o

Re: rfc: EFI System partition, FAT32, repair and non-persistent mount

2014-03-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 17.03.14 23:02, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > 1. EFI System partition is being mounted persistently at /boot/efi, > and I'd like to put an end to that because there's no good reason to > do it. None of the binaries on it are regularly being updated, and if > they are, the

over-riding an autodep for a sharedlib?

2014-03-18 Thread Kaleb KEITHLEY
the samba.spec has: %package vfs-glusterfs .. Requires: glusterfs-api >= 3.4.0.16 Requires: glusterfs >= 3.4.0.16 .. The samba-vfs-glusterfs has these Requires (rpm -q --requires samba-vfs-gluster) glusterfs-api >= 3.4.0.16 glusterfs >= 3.4.0.16 ... libgfapi.so.0()(64bit)

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Optional Javadocs

2014-03-18 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 04:07:40 PM CET Omair Majid wrote: > * Jaroslav Reznik [2014-03-18 10:38]: >> Initial testing showed 80% build failure rate due to OpenJDK 8 >> update. > > This is caused by a change in the default doclint settings used by > OpenJDK 8. Think '-Wall -Werror' for those more fami

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Optional Javadocs

2014-03-18 Thread Omair Majid
* Jaroslav Reznik [2014-03-18 10:38]: > Initial testing showed 80% build failure rate due to OpenJDK 8 > update. This is caused by a change in the default doclint settings used by OpenJDK 8. Think '-Wall -Werror' for those more familiar with gcc. We can patch OpenJDK 8 in Fedora to change the d

[Owner-change] Fedora packages ownership change

2014-03-18 Thread nobody
Change in ownership over the last 168 hours === 3 packages were orphaned python-crypto2.6 [devel] was orphaned by toshio Cryptography library for python https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/python-crypto2.6 spice

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Security Policy In The Installer

2014-03-18 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 02:52:43PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > "Well, I guess I'd better go read the docs." > > "That was a clear, short and cogent explanation! I learned something, an > now I can continue!" I clearly didn't write that explaina

Re: qadevel seems to be down

2014-03-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 00:35:20 -0600 Tim Flink wrote: > As a heads up, qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org (and our phabricator > instance, which is hosted on that machine) seems to be down right now. > > I'm not sure what exactly is going on, but most of the fedora cloud > seems to be affected. I can

Re: F20: what connects the lid switch to triggering suspend?

2014-03-18 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 02:21 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 17.03.14 17:18, Dan Williams (d...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > systemd-inhibit --list > > > > Thanks... > > > > *drum roll* > > > > The offending package was telepathy-mission-control. Not really sure > > why it cared abou

F21 System Wide Change: Optional Javadocs

2014-03-18 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Optional Javadocs = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OptionalJavadocs Change owner(s): Stanislav Ochotnicky Make javadoc subpackages of Java packages optional in guidelines and communicate this change to users. == Detailed Description == With introduction

F21 System Wide Change: Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud

2014-03-18 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Modular_Kernel_Packaging_for_Cloud Change owner(s): Cloud SIG / Sandro Mathys , Kernel Team / Josh Boyer Kernel modules that are not necessary in virtualized environments become optionall

Meeting minutes Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-03-18)

2014-03-18 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
#fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2014-03-18) Meeting started by mmaslano at 13:00:34 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-18/env-and-stacks.2014-03-18-

Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Django-1.6

2014-03-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/18/2014 08:11 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: > Hey there, > > now that we can have python-django15 in f21, I'll upgrade > python-django to Django-1.6 in a week. Woohoo! > > Any interest, to have this on F20, too? > Yes, absolutely. With Django

[HEADS UP] Update to Django-1.6

2014-03-18 Thread Matthias Runge
Hey there, now that we can have python-django15 in f21, I'll upgrade python-django to Django-1.6 in a week. Any interest, to have this on F20, too? python-django15 is installable in parallel, no penguin will be harmed, but the upgrade to Django-1.6 might hurt one or the other. Matthias -- Mat

[Bug 1077592] New: perl-Log-Log4perl-1.43 is available

2014-03-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1077592 Bug ID: 1077592 Summary: perl-Log-Log4perl-1.43 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Log-Log4perl Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Assignee: jples.

F21 System Wide Change: Ruby on Rails 4.1

2014-03-18 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby on Rails 4.1 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby_on_Rails_4.1 Change owner(s): Vít Ondruch , Josef Stříbný , ruby-...@lists.fedoraproject.org Ruby on Rails 4.1 is the latest version of well know web framework written in Ruby. == Detailed Descript

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Security Policy In The Installer

2014-03-18 Thread Vratislav Podzimek
On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 14:52 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 13:10 +0100, Vratislav Podzimek wrote: > > > And to sum it up a bit -- I think this feature doesn't complicate things > > for users who want to ignore it or who don't understand it. If you think > > it does, please t

Re: rfc: EFI System partition, FAT32, repair and non-persistent mount

2014-03-18 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 18 March 2014 07:02, Chris Murphy wrote: > > 1. EFI System partition is being mounted persistently at /boot/efi, and > I'd like to put an end to that because there's no good reason to do it. > None of the binaries on it are regularly being updated, and if they are, > the volume should be mou