Re: ImageMagick 6.8.8-10 in rawhide. Soname change.

On Qui, 2014-04-10 at 01:40 +0200, Tadej Janež wrote: > Hi! > > On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 18:30 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: > > Packages for rebuild: > > $ repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatrequires --alldeps ImageMagick\* | > > fgrep -v 'ImageMagick-' | sort -u > > As Michael Schwendt already point

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Mono 3.4

I've contacted the current mono maintainer since last autumn, he had been "working" on it for a while. And I think he is an expert on this rather than the current proposer. Plus it's my first time to see the proposal from an extraneous people outside. We ought not to bring in extraneous people in

Re: ImageMagick 6.8.8-10 in rawhide. Soname change.

Hi! On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 18:30 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: > Packages for rebuild: > $ repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatrequires --alldeps ImageMagick\* | > fgrep -v 'ImageMagick-' | sort -u As Michael Schwendt already pointed out, your query missed some packages that need rebuilding (BTW, I no

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

On 10/04/2014 7:50 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: +1 - What are 'server roles'? Are we just reinventing Ansible/Puppet/et al here? Yeah, why is someone spending time creating a new Fedora-specific configuration management system rather than just shipping an Ansible playbook or a Salt formula or whatev

New Copr release

Hi, I just deployed new version of Copr. https://copr.fedoraproject.org/ Changes: * a lot of small bugfixes * each src.rpm have separate task now - you can still submit bunch of src.rpm, but the list of src.rpm are split and each src.rpm is submitted to builders as one task. This means that Moni

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 10:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: no - if i type "man whatever" and that starts to pull 10 MB packages i stop and think 5 seconds if there is one of my ,ore than 30 machines which have it already That is you If I was concern with that I would have done the thinking ahead of time a

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

Am 10.04.2014 00:00, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > > On 04/09/2014 09:12 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 04/09/2014 10:05 PM, Billy Crook wrote: >>> I would like to see logic like this: >>> manpage files don't get installed unless/until: >>> 1) packagename-manpages is requested to be installe

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 09:12 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 04/09/2014 10:05 PM, Billy Crook wrote: I would like to see logic like this: manpage files don't get installed unless/until: 1) packagename-manpages is requested to be installed by the user. that package would require the 'man' package. OR 2) pa

Re: [CHANGE PROPOSAL] The securetty file is empty by default

On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 11:39:19PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > To clarify this: while I believe dropping securetty from the default PAM > config is the right thing to do, I am not vulunteering to do it. But I'd > love to see somebody to pick this up! I looked, and I think this is just a cha

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Rob Kearey wrote: >>This Change, as written, is *extremely* vague, moreso that most other >>changes that are filed for Fedora. Is it intended to be updated with more >>information when that becomes available? > > +1 - What are 'server roles'? Are we just reinventin

Re: [CHANGE PROPOSAL] The securetty file is empty by default

On Wed, 09.04.14 22:20, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: > This sounds entirely backwards, and I'd instead vote for removing > securetty from the PAM stacks we ship altogether. The concept is > outdated. It was useful in a time where the primary way to access a > server was via phy

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Mono 3.4

On 04/09/2014 12:42 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > So yes, FESCo should take it into consideration but I'd like to avoid > situation when this Change will be banned solely on "not a > maintainer". Yes -- I am hoping that someone who understands the Mono stack and has distro-wide commit access would

Re: [CHANGE PROPOSAL] The securetty file is empty by default

Once upon a time, Paul Wouters said: > On Wed, 9 Apr 2014, Chris Adams wrote: > >Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said: > >>On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 10:20:36PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >>[technical reasoning snipped] > >>>Hence: please let's just remove securetty entirely from the defaul

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

Am 09.04.2014 23:01, schrieb Billy Crook: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Reindl Harald > wrote: > > > Am 09.04.2014 22:05, schrieb Billy Crook: > > I would like to see logic like this: > > manpage files don't get installed unless/until: > > 1)

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 10:05 PM, Billy Crook wrote: I would like to see logic like this: manpage files don't get installed unless/until: 1) packagename-manpages is requested to be installed by the user. that package would require the 'man' package. OR 2) package is installed AND man is installed. In ot

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 08:42 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Given the number of packages that ship localization, this seems like it > would have a pretty dramatic effect on metadata size. Is this a concern? Meta data is a concern. But the major part of the meta data is file data and change logs. Everything e

Re: [CHANGE PROPOSAL] The securetty file is empty by default

On Wed, 9 Apr 2014, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said: On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 10:20:36PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: [technical reasoning snipped] Hence: please let's just remove securetty entirely from the default PAM stacks. It's annoying, it creates a false sen

Re: [CHANGE PROPOSAL] The securetty file is empty by default

Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 10:20:36PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > [technical reasoning snipped] > > Hence: please let's just remove securetty entirely from the default PAM > > stacks. It's annoying, it creates a false sense of security, it's a > > relic

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 09.04.2014 22:05, schrieb Billy Crook: > > I would like to see logic like this: > > manpage files don't get installed unless/until: > > 1) packagename-manpages is requested to be installed by the user. that > package would require the 'm

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 10:54 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: > There are some limited use cases that aren't ideal now with > install_lang and exclude_docs. For example, installing missing docs or > langs -- for all or some packages. But that seems like it could be > solved by a script that drives rpm

Re: [CHANGE PROPOSAL] The securetty file is empty by default

On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 10:20:36PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: [technical reasoning snipped] > Hence: please let's just remove securetty entirely from the default PAM > stacks. It's annoying, it creates a false sense of security, it's a > relict of a different time and not compatible with mode

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

Am 09.04.2014 22:05, schrieb Billy Crook: > I would like to see logic like this: > manpage files don't get installed unless/until: > 1) packagename-manpages is requested to be installed by the user. that > package would require the 'man' package. > OR > 2) package is installed AND man is instal

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 03:57:27PM -0400, James Antill wrote: > For recent yum it's significantly better to do: > yum fs filter nodocs > Dito. to get rid of extra languages by: > yum fs filter langs en > ...then you can yum fs refilter / yum fs refilter-cleanup. So -- if the host is originally i

Re: [CHANGE PROPOSAL] The securetty file is empty by default

On Wed, 02.04.14 09:12, quickbooks office (quickbooks.off...@gmail.com) wrote: > [CHANGE PROPOSAL] The securetty file is empty by default > > All the info has been sitting here @ > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/securetty_file_is_empty_by_default > since March 20th. > > Did I mess someth

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

I would like to see logic like this: manpage files don't get installed unless/until: 1) packagename-manpages is requested to be installed by the user. that package would require the 'man' package. OR 2) package is installed AND man is installed. Don't wan't the manpages taking up disk space? rem

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/2014 05:54 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:48 PM, William Brown > wrote: > >> > == Detailed Description == A new D-Bus service will be > made available, exposing available se

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 12:37 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Marius A wrote: > > 1. remove /usr/share/docs > > Try this in /etc/rpm/macros.whatever: > %_excludedocs 1 For recent yum it's significantly better to do: yum fs filter nodocs > Try this in /etc/rpm/m

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-04-10 16:00 UTC)

On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 20:45 +0200, Antonio Trande wrote: > I don't see the topic about bundled files in Icecat ( > https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/391). > It's still pending. AFAIK it's not, if you look at the log from the last meeting: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > You need to install or reinstall grub2-efi and shim packages. Aha, a correct answer! Thanks! Based on this hint, I think I figured it out. I updated the wiki accordingly. Can you take a quick look at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-04-10 16:00 UTC)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/2014 08:04 PM, James Antill wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC > meeting Thursday at 2014-04-10 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on > irc.freenode.net. > > > = Followups = > > (approval and retirement

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

Florian Festi (ffe...@redhat.com) said: > 1) Normal weak dependencies. In a normal install all the docs (and all > other bells and whistles) get installed by default. You can > remove/deselect packages which are pulled in by weak dependencies. You > can even switch off all weak dependencies to onl

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-04-10 16:00 UTC)

James Antill (ja...@fedoraproject.org) said: > For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The > report of the agenda items can be found at: > > https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12 > > > If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to > this e-mail,

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-04-10 16:00 UTC)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-04-10 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-04-10 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2014-04-10 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2014-04-10 1

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 04:14 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: C'mon, we have packages whose install-sizes are measured in 10ths and 100s of MBs ... and we have other dirs which can easily grow beyond any limits. I was refering to it being in the eye of the beholder so to speak but as I see it we need t

[fedocal] The end of the fedora-meeting* calendars

Dear all, Today, Ralph and I braced ourselves and went onto the fedora-meeting, fedora-meeting-1 and fedora-meeting-2 calendars on fedocal and moved all the meetings in there into other calendars. With the introduction of the meeting location, having a dedicated calendar for the irc chans does no

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 04:49 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 04/09/2014 02:31 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: So, I'd question the usefulness of not installing man-page It's more about getting to the point of being able to remove them and or have the option not to install them. Well, rpm-wise, all

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 08:45 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 04/09/2014 06:02 AM, drago01 wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Stephen Gallagher > > wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 04/08/2014 07:22 AM, drago01 wrote: > >>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12

[Bug 1085905] New: perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema-0.61-1.fc21 FTBFS

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1085905 Bug ID: 1085905 Summary: perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema-0.61-1.fc21 FTBFS Product: Fedora Version: 20 Component: perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema Assignee: iarn...@gmail.com

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 05:23 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > This construct would be extremely valuable to the SSSD as well: > > %package -n client > Recommends: sssd-client.i686 if glibc.i686 That's not exactly by accident... > It's pretty easy to install a language at package-install time, but in > orde

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/09/2014 06:02 AM, drago01 wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Stephen Gallagher >> wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 04/08/2014 07:22 AM, dr

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/2014 08:42 AM, Florian Festi wrote: > On 04/09/2014 01:50 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> On 04/09/2014 07:23 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> >>> On 04/09/2014 07:33 AM, Marius A wrote: Are there any other disk space saving t

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 03:00:24PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Does not solve the problem of dependency like for example if we want > to get rid of man-db and it's dependency's so forth and so on. Well, it does solve the wasted disk space problem. > The only way we can move forward is

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 04:53 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > From the desktop/workstation perspective, here are a few things I would > like to see if we decide to work on this: > > Support for a new locale is more or less like a 'system extension' for > the OS. It would be good to define clear rules for what

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 02:59 PM, Alexey I. Froloff wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 02:49:56PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: So, I'd question the usefulness of not installing man-page It's more about getting to the point of being able to remove them and or have the option not to install them. Si

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 02:49:56PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >So, I'd question the usefulness of not installing man-page > It's more about getting to the point of being able to remove them and > or have the option not to install them. Since man pages are marked as %doc, you can use %_

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:49 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > It's more about getting to the point of being able to remove them and or > have the option not to install them. See my other email on this thread. Following on what I wrote there, instead of reworking all the packages across the di

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

may be easier to just rewrite the mandb for it rather than create extra confusion of two man pages Corey W Sheldon Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine 310.909.7672 www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:49 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 04/09/2014 02:31 PM, Ralf C

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > So, I'd question the usefulness of not installing man-pages, because their > sizes are comparatively small on today's disk-scales, e.g. on my primary > system: > # du -sh /usr/share/man > 89M /usr/share/man > > That's almost neglibile in

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 02:31 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: So, I'd question the usefulness of not installing man-page It's more about getting to the point of being able to remove them and or have the option not to install them. Whether they should or should not be installed by default depends on peopl

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 08:39 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 07:50:37AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > I would say in the long run we should be working towards creating > > > separated locale,doc,man packages > > Hmm, I wonder if RPM 4.12 would allow us to do this with

ImageMagick 6.8.8-10 in rawhide. Soname change.

Hello. New version landed in rawhide. Sorry for the late info - incidental soname change happened (fixed in spec now): /usr/lib64/libMagick++-6.Q16.so.1 /usr/lib64/libMagick++-6.Q16.so.1.0.0 /usr/lib64/libMagickCore-6.Q16.so.1 /usr/lib64/libMagickCore-6.Q16.so.1.0.0 /usr/lib64/libMagickWand-6.Q16.

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 03:53 PM, Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote: Having said that, I am all for saving space on a default install and/or making a more minimal install possible. I noticed just now that manpages are compressed, but with gz. I am sure this discussion has already happened, but maybe we can have

[perl-SQL-Abstract] Created tag perl-SQL-Abstract-1.77-1.fc21

The lightweight tag 'perl-SQL-Abstract-1.77-1.fc21' was created pointing to: 99236d5... Update to 1.77 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-deve

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 04:01 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 09:53:10AM -0400, Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote: I think I must fit into this 0.1% (and I am not disputing that that is the correct ratio, either) because I definitely use /usr/share/doc, but mostly because that holds more than ju

[perl-SQL-Abstract] Update to 1.77

commit 99236d52ff15dafb27b0e2b2541de0c65303481f Author: Paul Howarth Date: Wed Apr 9 15:15:25 2014 +0100 Update to 1.77 - Update to latest upstream version - This release by RIBASUSHI -> update source URL - BR: perl(Data::Dumper) and perl(Test::Deep) ≥ 0.101 - Don't nee

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 10:10:37AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> I think I must fit into this 0.1% (and I am not disputing that > >> that is the correct ratio, either) because I definitely use > >> /usr/share/doc, but mostly because that holds more than just > >> "documentation". For exampl

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/2014 10:01 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 09:53:10AM -0400, Basil Mohamed Gohar > wrote: >> I think I must fit into this 0.1% (and I am not disputing that >> that is the correct ratio, either) because I definitely use >> /

[Bug 1085579] perl-Moose compiled for perl API v5.16.0; fedora perl now at v5.18.0

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1085579 --- Comment #3 from simon.gal...@gmail.com --- I can confirm that the issue was local to one system -- our bad! Thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.re

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 09:53:10AM -0400, Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote: > I think I must fit into this 0.1% (and I am not disputing that that is > the correct ratio, either) because I definitely use /usr/share/doc, but > mostly because that holds more than just "documentation". For example, > avahi s

[Bug 1085336] perl-DBIx-Class-0.08250-2.fc21 FTBFS

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1085336 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED Fixed In Version|

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 03:33 AM, Marius A wrote: > > I think less than 0.1% of users ever look into /usr/share/doc, but I > don't have any data to back this up. I think I must fit into this 0.1% (and I am not disputing that that is the correct ratio, either) because I definitely use /usr/share/doc, but m

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 10:33:25AM +0300, Marius A wrote: > I've been struggling keeping a fedora 20 install on a "small" SSD, with 6gb > / partition (/home is separate). This part of conversation probably belongs on the user list rather than devel. But there are some development-related aspects (

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/2014 06:02 AM, drago01 wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Stephen Gallagher > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 04/08/2014 07:22 AM, drago01 wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik >>

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 01:50 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 04/09/2014 07:23 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >> On 04/09/2014 07:33 AM, Marius A wrote: >>> >>> Are there any other disk space saving tips? > >> Users should not have to result doing disk saving tips. > >> I would say in the long run

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 07:50:37AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > I would say in the long run we should be working towards creating > > separated locale,doc,man packages > Hmm, I wonder if RPM 4.12 would allow us to do this with weak > dependencies? > Perhaps something like having a metapacka

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 11:50 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/2014 07:23 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 04/09/2014 07:33 AM, Marius A wrote: Are there any other disk space saving tips? Users should not have to result doing disk saving tips. I

Re: Packager on RHEL5/CentOS5?

On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 12:23:03PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 02:13:32PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > My question is thus, is there anyone here that is using > > RHEL5/CentOS5 to do packaging for Fedora/EPEL? If so, and if you > > rely on fedpkg/pkgdb-cli fo

Re: Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-04-08)

On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 05:14:37PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > OTOH, how does the Cloud SIG want to use the SCL? If they want to create > things that are outside of the SCL that make use of it, that would seem to > be a point of coordination and thus would be Fedora Change worthy... On yet Ri

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/2014 07:23 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 04/09/2014 07:33 AM, Marius A wrote: >> >> Are there any other disk space saving tips? > > Users should not have to result doing disk saving tips. > > I would say in the long run we shou

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 07:33 AM, Marius A wrote: Are there any other disk space saving tips? Users should not have to result doing disk saving tips. I would say in the long run we should be working towards creating separated locale,doc,man packages JBG -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On 04/09/2014 09:33 AM, Marius A wrote: > 3. cleanup /var/log/journal, which seems it's not automatically rotated It's supposed to be automatic. How big did it become on your system? If the default size limits do not suit you, you can change them in /etc/systemd/journald.conf. Michal -- devel m

Re: Packager on RHEL5/CentOS5?

On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 02:13:32PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > My question is thus, is there anyone here that is using > RHEL5/CentOS5 to do packaging for Fedora/EPEL? If so, and if you > rely on fedpkg/pkgdb-cli for it, please say so :) (here or on [2]). OK I think I read this backwards i

Re: Packager on RHEL5/CentOS5?

On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 02:13:32PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Hi everyone, > > As you may know I am working on updating our package database > (pkgdb) to a new version named pkgdb2. In this process, pkgdb-cli > has got re-writen and now ships a pkgdb2.py python module that can > be used as

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Mono 3.4

- Original Message - > On 04/08/2014 01:44 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > = Proposed System Wide Change: Mono 3.4 = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Mono_3.4 > > > > Change owner(s): Claudio Rodrigo Pereyra Diaz > > > > > > Update the Mono stack in Fedora from 2.10 to 3.4 > >

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Mono 3.4

On 04/08/2014 01:44 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Mono 3.4 = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Mono_3.4 > > Change owner(s): Claudio Rodrigo Pereyra Diaz > > Update the Mono stack in Fedora from 2.10 to 3.4 > > == Detailed Description == > Support for Mono

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/08/2014 07:22 AM, drago01 wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Jaroslav Reznik >> wrote: >>> = Proposed System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role >>> Deployment = >>> ht

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

> On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:48 PM, William Brown wrote: > > == Detailed Description == A new D-Bus service will be made available, exposing available server roles, making it possible to deploy, configure and manage them. Appropriate functionality will also be exposed as a comman

Schedule for Wednesday's (today's) FESCo Meeting (2014-04-09)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '-MM-DD 18:00 UTC' Links to all tickets below

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Marius A wrote: > 1. remove /usr/share/docs Try this in /etc/rpm/macros.whatever: %_excludedocs 1 But that'll exclude _all_ files marked as docs in packages such as man pages, it's not limited to /usr/share/doc. You might also/instead want to try this: %_

Re: Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-04-08)

On 8 April 2014 23:01, Corey Sheldon wrote: > I'm glad to supply a mirror site for initial seeding for such actions as > needed (GMT-4 (US ES/DT) > Also great mailing list but curious do you plan on creating a blog or > podcast with such info for those not always near email client ..been > for

trimming down Fedora installed size

Hi there, I've been struggling keeping a fedora 20 install on a "small" SSD, with 6gb / partition (/home is separate). Besides removing packages, I also found this useful: 1. remove /usr/share/docs 2. remove /usr/share/locale/* (all except en and en_US) 3. cleanup /var/log/journal, which seems i

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Playground repository

To chime in here, we have been doing something like this in GStreamer for a long while. There is 'plugins-base' and 'plugins-good' plugins which is comparable to the current core Fedora repository. Any plugin going into base or good need to conform to certain coding standards, licensing standards