Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

Dne 23.4.2014 20:23, Miloslav Trmač napsal(a): > Hello, > 2014-04-11 13:18 GMT+02:00 Jaroslav Reznik : > >> = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 >> > > At the FESCo meeting, we were unclear what happens to packages that don't > get u

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 21 Changes - weeks 13/14

On 2014-04-24, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: >> What about D-Bus? D-Bus uses AF_UNIX currently. But as you can know, >> there is an aim to move D-Bus to a new protocol family. Is it possible that >> all the daemons with a D-Bus control interface will stop

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

Well my point is I spoke to Red Hat legal before I even posted the original proposal to open up to more 3rd party repositories some Months ago. There are a lot of repositories that it is perfectly fine for Fedora to include from a legal perspective. But they will need to be reviewed by legal on

Copr and Playground plugin part of dnf-plugins-core?

In https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1090516 Jiri asked for removing Copr (and Playground) DNF plugin out of dnf-plugins-core. Since this is not technical but merely political question I would like to ask wider audience: Put your voice here please: http://www.easypolls.net/poll.htm

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

On 4/24/14, Christian Schaller wrote: > So decisions need to be general to allow us to look for a variety of options > to fulfill them. Lets say Fedora decided we want to make it > easier for our users to get more multimedia codecs. We would not get the > go ahead from legal to include a reposito

Re: When a yum update sets up an MTA ...

On 04/24/2014 01:57 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: On 04/21/2014 03:44 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: Would it make sense to audit all spec files to look for instances of 'systemctl.*enable'? I'm attaching the hits for that pattern on the

Self Introduction : Marianne Lombard

Hi, I'm writing today because I have submitted my first package for review : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1090933 I'm a sysadmin since a few years in a public research center and we are using (a lot) of free and open-source software. So I will probably work on sysadmin / scien

Re: Self Introduction : Marianne Lombard

Heya ! Welcome here and I'm glad that you finally jumped onboard :) Feel free to ping me if you're looking for a sponsor. best regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/c

Re: Self Introduction : Marianne Lombard

Hi, All this time I thought you were already maintaining packages :) Cheers, Dridi On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Marianne Lombard wrote: > Hi, > > I'm writing today because I have submitted my first package for review : > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1090933 > > I'm a sysadmin

Orphaning most of my packages

I am doing spring cleanup and getting rid of most of my packages. The full list is a bit too long (mizdebsk agreed to take over all of my Maven related packages as primary maintainer). Here's the remaining bits that need a new home: * plotutils * python-gudev * python-icalendar * python-webda

Re: Orphaning most of my packages

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky < sochotni...@redhat.com> wrote: > > I am doing spring cleanup and getting rid of most of my packages. The > full list is a bit too long (mizdebsk agreed to take over all of my Maven > related packages as primary maintainer). Here's the remaini

Re: Orphaning most of my packages

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky < > sochotni...@redhat.com> wrote: > >> >> I am doing spring cleanup and getting rid of most of my packages. The >> full list is a bit too long (mizdebsk agreed to take over all of my

Re: Orphaning most of my packages

- Original Message - > From: "Johannes Lips" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:55:09 PM > Subject: Re: Orphaning most of my packages > > > > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Jon Ciesla < limburg...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > >

Re: Orphaning most of my packages

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/24/2014 02:46 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > > I am doing spring cleanup and getting rid of most of my packages. > The full list is a bit too long (mizdebsk agreed to take over all > of my Maven related packages as primary maintainer). Here's

Re: Orphaning most of my packages

On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 14:46 +0200, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > I am doing spring cleanup and getting rid of most of my packages. The > full list is a bit too long (mizdebsk agreed to take over all of my Maven > related packages as primary maintainer). Here's the remaining bits that > need a new h

Automatically generated configuration files

I'm working on advice on automated X.509 certificate generation during package installation. One aspect is that these files obviously have to be generated on the system during installation (or first service start) and cannot be shipped in the package. Some existing RPMs just drop files into

Re: Maybe it's time to get rid of tcpwrappers/tcpd?

On Thu, 20.03.14 18:34, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: > Heya! > > I wonder whether it wouldn't be time to say goodbye to tcpwrappers in > Fedora. There has been a request in systemd upstream to disable support > for it by default, but I am not sure I want to do that unless we c

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Re: Automatically generated configuration files

On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Florian Weimer wrote: I'm working on advice on automated X.509 certificate generation during package installation. I would strongly recommend doing it on first service start. I've lived through the FreeS/WAN times and my experience with it for 15+ years caused us (in libre

[RFC] plans for initscripts in F22

Hi, for the F22 I am planning some bigger changes regarding initscripts and I would like to ask for comments. Initscripts package was in the past a crucial part of the system. They basicaly set up whole system during the boot. Currently initscripts package contains "support" for initscripts (

Re: Automatically generated configuration files

On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 15:47 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > I'm working on advice on automated X.509 certificate generation during > package installation. > > One aspect is that these files obviously have to be generated on the > system during installation (or first service start) and cannot be

Re: Orphaning most of my packages

On 04/24/2014 02:57 PM, Michael Simacek wrote: - Original Message - From: "Johannes Lips" To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:55:09 PM Subject: Re: Orphaning most of my packages freemind would need some considerable amount of work, because

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:31:43 +0200 Jan Staněk wrote: > Well, in the current plan (make libdb5 "compat" package and updating > the libdb to v6), after the mass rebuild the packages would start > using v6. Yeah, which makes technical sense... but the concern is packagers who aren't paying attentio

Re: Automatically generated configuration files

Paul Wouters writes: > [...] > How many packages would actually perform any kind of "opportunistic > encryption"? I know the mail servers prefer a selfsigned cert over no > cert whatsoever, but what other applications have this issue of "better > unknown certificate than plaintext" ? Probably al

Re: Automatically generated configuration files

On 04/24/2014 04:20 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Florian Weimer wrote: I'm working on advice on automated X.509 certificate generation during package installation. I would strongly recommend doing it on first service start. I've lived through the FreeS/WAN times and my experie

Mass bug: packages should not auto-enable systemd units

Hi everyone- This is a notice in accordance with the mass bug filing procedure. A number of packages install systemd units and enable them automatically. They should not. Please update these packages to use the macroized scriptlet (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#Syst

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

On 24 April 2014 02:49, Christian Schaller wrote: > Well my point is I spoke to Red Hat legal before I even posted the > original proposal to open up to more 3rd party repositories some > Months ago. There are a lot of repositories that it is perfectly > fine for Fedora to include from a legal pe

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Yeah, which makes technical sense... but the concern is packagers who > aren't paying attention rebuild for some other reason and are not on v6 > when it's a licensing problem. ;( I need some advice on how to handle this for XEmacs, which is a

Re: Automatically generated configuration files

On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Florian Weimer wrote: I don't think "openssl genrsa 2048" has this issue on today's machines. (I know I saw it with GNUTLS.) I was sceptical, so I tried this on a freshly booted VM: root@bofh:~# virsh start north Domain north started root@bofh:~# ssh root@north Last logi

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-24 17:22 GMT+02:00 Jerry James : > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Yeah, which makes technical sense... but the concern is packagers who > > aren't paying attention rebuild for some other reason and are not on v6 > > when it's a licensing problem. ;( > > I need som

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > You'll have the option of moving to libdb5 , without a license change or > need to convert data. That should be easiest, at least in the medium term > while libdb5 is actively maintained. Sure, but long term I still have the same problem,

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/24/2014 11:01 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > On 24 April 2014 02:49, Christian Schaller > wrote: > > Well my point is I spoke to Red Hat legal before I even posted the > original proposal to open up to m

Re: [RFC] plans for initscripts in F22

Hello, 2014-04-24 16:38 GMT+02:00 Lukáš Nykrýn : > We must keep initscripts support, but I can imagine a setup where every > service uses a systemd unit, so this part does not have to be installed by > default, but could be pulled in as a dependency. > Are you sure? If you take an existing RPM t

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/24/2014 11:01 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> >> >> >> On 24 April 2014 02:49, Christian Schaller > > wrote: >> >> Well my point is I spoke to Red H

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> OK cool. What is the plan for when repositories change what they >> are carrying and add stuff that may be legal for them but not for >> others? Will there be periodic reviews to make sure that this >> hasn't happened or some way that we

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 10:04:41 -0600 Ken Dreyer wrote: > One practical difference is that there's no bug trackers for > individual COPRs. At least when a package is in Fedora, communication > can happen in a central place (Bugzilla), and there's an FE-LEGAL > blocker mechanism, etc. That tooling is

[Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 25. Apr 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

Agenda: - Status update on merge reviews, tech spec, securetty proposal - Open floor Thanks & regards, Phil -- Philipp Knirsch | Tel.: +49-711-96437-470 Manager Core Services| Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 Red Hat GmbH | Email: Phil Knirsch Wankelstrasse 5

Re: [RFC] plans for initscripts in F22

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 05:55:29PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > Hello, > 2014-04-24 16:38 GMT+02:00 Lukáš Nykrýn : > > > We must keep initscripts support, but I can imagine a setup where every > > service uses a systemd unit, so this part does not have to be installed by > > default, but could b

Re: [Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 25. Apr 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Phil Knirsch wrote: > Agenda: > - Status update on merge reviews, tech spec, securetty proposal The securetty proposal was settled at yesterday's FESCo meeting. I doubt there's much to discuss further on it. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: [RFC] plans for initscripts in F22

2014-04-24 18:13 GMT+02:00 Casey Dahlin : > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 05:55:29PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > Hello, > > 2014-04-24 16:38 GMT+02:00 Lukáš Nykrýn : > > > > > We must keep initscripts support, but I can imagine a setup where every > > > service uses a systemd unit, so this part doe

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 10:04:41 -0600 > Ken Dreyer wrote: > >> One practical difference is that there's no bug trackers for >> individual COPRs. At least when a package is in Fedora, communication >> can happen in a central place (Bugzilla), and

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

On 24 April 2014 09:56, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/24/2014 11:01 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > > > > > On 24 April 2014 02:49, Christian Schaller > > wrote: > > > > Well my point is I spoke to Red Hat

Re: Copr and Playground plugin part of dnf-plugins-core?

If you want people to vote for something, It would be a good idea to say why and what the pro/cons is for having copr as a separate package. Tim On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > In https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1090516 > Jiri asked for removing Copr (and

Re: Automatically generated configuration files

On 04/24/2014 05:39 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Florian Weimer wrote: I don't think "openssl genrsa 2048" has this issue on today's machines. (I know I saw it with GNUTLS.) I was sceptical, so I tried this on a freshly booted VM: root@bofh:~# virsh start north Domain north

Re: Copr and Playground plugin part of dnf-plugins-core?

On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 11:29:15 +0200 Miroslav Suchý wrote: > In https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1090516 > Jiri asked for removing Copr (and Playground) DNF plugin out of > dnf-plugins-core. > > Since this is not technical but merely political question I would > like to ask wider audien

Re: Self Introduction : Marianne Lombard

Hello Marianne, On Thursday, 24 April 2014 at 14:20, Marianne Lombard wrote: > Hi, > > I'm writing today because I have submitted my first package for > review : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1090933 Welcome on board! > I'm a sysadmin since a few years in a public research center

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

- Original Message - > From: "Stephen John Smoogen" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 6:46:03 PM > Subject: Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations > > > > > On 24 April 2014 09:56, Stephen Gallagher < sgall...@redhat.c

Re: The Forgotten "F": A Tale of Fedora's Foundations

On 24 April 2014 16:06, Christian Schaller wrote: > > > These were things that people were wondering when this came up in the > past. > > Once again this is becoming a debate about hypotheticals which rarely > leads anywhere > constructive. > > It actually isn't hypothetical. I have had to deal w

Re: Self Introduction : Marianne Lombard

On 04/24/2014 04:02 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Hello Marianne, On Thursday, 24 April 2014 at 14:20, Marianne Lombard wrote: Hi, I'm writing today because I have submitted my first package for review : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1090933 Welcome on board! I'm

Re: [RFC] plans for initscripts in F22

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 04:38:07PM +0200, Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > Hi, > for the F22 I am planning some bigger changes regarding initscripts > and I would like to ask for comments. > > Initscripts package was in the past a crucial part of the system. > They basicaly set up whole system during the boo

Self Introduction: Dennis Payne

I've been using Fedora since it started and have packaged up personal programs before as rpms. After doing a presentation on Bt Builder for a local linux user group, the only option I had for them to try the program was to compile from source. (Which isn't hard but not the user experience I would l

Re: Automatically generated configuration files

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 10:10:15AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 15:47 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > > I'm working on advice on automated X.509 certificate generation during > > package installation. > > > > One aspect is that these files obviously have to be generated on th

Re: Copr and Playground plugin part of dnf-plugins-core?

I have started a new dnf-utils project for commuty plugins/addons there is not maintain by the core dnf team https://github.com/timlau/dnf-utils copr / playground is welcome here is the core dnf developers, think its dont fit into dnf-plugins.core It is not submitted as a fedora package yet, but

Re: Automatically generated configuration files

On 04/24/2014 08:39 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2014, Florian Weimer wrote: I don't think "openssl genrsa 2048" has this issue on today's machines. (I know I saw it with GNUTLS.) I was sceptical, so I tried this on a freshly booted VM: root@bofh:~# virsh start north Domain north