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On 11. 6. 2014 at 15:03:12, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
On 06/11/2014 11:20 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
The transition period is one reason why we want to keep the name dnf.
We'd
basically like to keep current yum around for users that have various
scripts and stuff depending on it so they have
On 11. 6. 2014 at 18:53:36, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
2014-06-11 15:02 GMT+02:00 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com:
I strongly agree with this for practical reasons. There is no good
rationale for moving away from yum as the name of the command
except some
of the command line changes which
On 11. 6. 2014 at 18:09:25, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le mercredi 11 juin 2014 à 11:37 -0400, Chuck Anderson a écrit :
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 05:21:30PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
On 11. 6. 2014 at 08:52:34, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 02:44:10PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik
On 11. 6. 2014 at 14:07:05, DJ Delorie wrote:
Forcing the users to type a different command name to get exactly the
same functionality only serves to annoy the user.
I'm sorry but at this point I feel I gotta ask: have you read my earlier
replies?
Nothing will change for you, the yum command
On 11. 6. 2014 at 18:55:37, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
2014-06-11 16:08 GMT+02:00 drago01 drag...@gmail.com:
That makes no sense. First of all if it obsoletes yum it will get
pulled in during upgrades and imo it *should*. We don't really want to
end up in a situation where half the users
are
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com wrote:
On 11. 6. 2014 at 18:55:37, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
2014-06-11 16:08 GMT+02:00 drago01 drag...@gmail.com:
That makes no sense. First of all if it obsoletes yum it will get
pulled in during upgrades and imo it *should*. We
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Omair Majid oma...@redhat.com wrote:
* Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com [2014-04-14 08:32]:
= Proposed System Wide Change: Fedora 21 Make 4.0 Update =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F21Make40
== Detailed Description ==
The purpose of this update is
On 06/11/2014 06:13 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
If the idea is interesting it does imply that each person having scripts
depending on yum has to:
* s/yum/yum-legacy/
- Deploy to prod and run as before
* s/yum-legacy/dnf/
- Test and ensure it has a consistent behavior w/ yum (that the
Am 12.06.2014 10:51, schrieb Miroslav Suchý:
b) you (the-sysadmin) are lazy and put it on back-burner
and do s/yum/yum-legacy/ and you have to do that work
from a) anyway one year later
stop people calling lazy because they are not
accepting replacements which are not drop-in
Fedora would
Recently I added the addon component type to AppStream[1] which is an
XML standard that is used by Fedora and lots of other distros to
create metadata for various software center applications such as GNOME
Software and KDE's Apper.
By creating a metainfo.xml for each plugin, these are then shown
* Tomasz Torcz [11/06/2014 23:20] :
So we won't get 5.20 in stable Fedora for a year?
More or less (we don't have a schedule for F22 yet).
Emmanuel
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the EMEA regional community decided yesterday to organize a small
sponsorship program for EMEA contributors who would like to attend Flock
2014 that is going to take place in Prague on Aug 6-9 and haven't
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The overall amount of money
On Qua, 2014-06-11 at 23:36 +0200, Simone Caronni wrote:
Hello,
On 11 June 2014 19:11, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
Hi, why not begin by a xserver rebase in copr ?
Personally, because I don't feel like doing the work twice.
But if
Of the ones I know about ...
avgtime
Written in the 'D' language which doesn't have support for ARM upstream.
grub2
ARM (32 bit) boots using u-boot. Aarch64 machines will boot using
grub2 (or is that grub2-efi? - you know better than I do :-)
hfsplus-tools
As discussed in this thread.
I pulled git and have the following for ExclusiveArch: %{arm}:
joystick-support
While ARM doesn't have traditional joystick ports there have been some
people hook them up via GPIO and the like, enabled.
mcollective-qpid-plugin
perl-qpid
These were both legacy hangover from before qpid-gcc
Hi,
On Qua, 2014-06-11 at 12:40 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 17:19 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
On Qua, 2014-06-11 at 12:09 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 17:56 +0200, drago01 wrote:
Oh and xserver really .. I am the one that gets complaints
We are open to ideas. I think in this situation there is no perfect way
how to satisfy everyone. We have thought about this for several months.
Renaming dnf back to yum might seem like the best option at first (it was
our original plan too) but when you carefully and deeply think about
Dne 11.6.2014 20:18, Felix Miata napsal(a):
On 2014-06-11 14:07 (GMT-0400) DJ Delorie composed:
Forcing the users to type a different command name to get exactly the
same functionality only serves to annoy the user.
And in this particular case, the change is from a nice single finger
word
python-gudev orphan, aledvink, sochotni
Taken.
Anyone who did miss the opportunity and still want it? Just let me know.
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Dne 11.6.2014 17:20, Jan Zelený napsal(a):
On 11. 6. 2014 at 09:02:29, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
This is kind of sentimental, and I think possibly Seth would not have
liked
to have a big deal made of it, but... I guess I'm going to
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:58:55 +0100,
Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
I pulled git and have the following for ExclusiveArch: %{arm}:
joystick-support
While ARM doesn't have traditional joystick ports there have been some
people hook them up via GPIO and the like, enabled.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 02:10:22PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
We are open to ideas. I think in this situation there is no perfect way
how to satisfy everyone. We have thought about this for several months.
Renaming dnf back to yum might seem like the best option at first (it was
our
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Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
Of the ones I know about ...
avgtime
Written in the 'D' language which doesn't have support for ARM
upstream.
grub2
ARM (32 bit) boots using u-boot.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:01:22AM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
On 11. 6. 2014 at 14:07:05, DJ Delorie wrote:
Forcing the users to type a different command name to get exactly the
same functionality only serves to annoy the user.
I'm sorry but at this point I feel I gotta ask: have you read my
On Čt, 2014-06-12 at 10:09 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 02:10:22PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
We are open to ideas. I think in this situation there is no perfect way
how to satisfy everyone. We have thought about this for several months.
Renaming dnf back to yum
On 12. 6. 2014 at 10:11:40, Chuck Anderson wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:01:22AM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
On 11. 6. 2014 at 14:07:05, DJ Delorie wrote:
Forcing the users to type a different command name to get exactly the
same functionality only serves to annoy the user.
I'm
On 12. 6. 2014 at 10:09:13, Chuck Anderson wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 02:10:22PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
We are open to ideas. I think in this situation there is no perfect
way
how to satisfy everyone. We have thought about this for several
months.
Renaming dnf back to
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On 06/11/2014 07:07 PM, Sandro Mani wrote:
Hi,
For the ongoing effort to package salome/code-aster, I need these
two dependencies:
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108395 -
netgen-mesher - Somewhat complexish, autotools, mpi
Am 12.06.2014 16:28, schrieb Jan Zelený:
On 12. 6. 2014 at 10:11:40, Chuck Anderson wrote:
At least systemctl is generic unlike dnf. And systemctl is much
more of a change from the way service works that it warranted a
change of name. yum and dnf both work pretty much the same way
from the
Nothing will change for you, the yum command will still exist for a
few more Fedora releases,
Which only postpones the problem.
just as the `service` command that was superseded by systemctl like
5 releases of Fedora ago exists.
Which is currently annoying me, for the same reason.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
We are on the same page, thanks for your input.
I don't think so. You are clearly arguing for a temporary compatibility
wrapper but eventually forcing everyone to use dnf as the command. The
other side is wanting yum to continue to
On 12.06.2014 16:29, Mukundan Ragavan wrote:
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Hi,
For the ongoing effort to package salome/code-aster, I need these
two dependencies:
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1108395 -
2014-06-12 17:03 GMT+02:00 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
We are on the same page, thanks for your input.
I don't think so. You are clearly arguing for a temporary compatibility
wrapper but eventually forcing everyone to use dnf as
I am +1 for keeping the 'yum' name for the new manager, if only for the
connotation.
Telling users/consumers/customers that yum is upgraded and awesome is much
easier than telling them that yum has been replaced and that the new tool is
awesome.
Even something like 'yum4' would be preferable
* Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com [2014-06-12 04:25]:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Omair Majid oma...@redhat.com wrote:
* Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com [2014-04-14 08:32]:
= Proposed System Wide Change: Fedora 21 Make 4.0 Update =
On 12.6.2014 16:16, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
2014-06-12 9:30 GMT+02:00 Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com:
It boils down to this: someone is going to be inconvenienced. I argue
it's better to inconvenience the minority with special 'yum' needs by
making them use the 'yum-old' alias, rather than
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On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 17:13 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
2014-06-12 17:03 GMT+02:00 Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:
We are on the same page, thanks for your input.
I don't think so. You are clearly arguing for a temporary
Am 12.06.2014 17:41, schrieb Simo Sorce:
We can keep the yum symlink forever...
I am for a clear break with dnf having its own name.
Using yum as the name for dnf is just a lie to the user
it is not a lie
DNF is a fork of YUM and pretends to be compatible
and if it finally replaces YUM
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:39:00AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
grub2
ARM (32 bit) boots using u-boot. Aarch64 machines will boot using
grub2 (or is that grub2-efi? - you know better than I do :-)
This one's purely excluded from 32-bit ARM. The source package is grub2
regardless of
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 17:54 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 12.06.2014 17:41, schrieb Simo Sorce:
We can keep the yum symlink forever...
I am for a clear break with dnf having its own name.
Using yum as the name for dnf is just a lie to the user
it is not a lie
DNF is a fork of YUM
Actually it is. The pretty much part is exactly the reason why to
change the name. If we didn't, a ton of users who are not reading
this conversation would start filing regression bugs. If we set
their expectations right, warning them that yum is no more, they are
far less likely to do so.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:09:13AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
And if those arguments aren't convincing enough, the second best
option, if you MUST change the name of the command, is to change it
ONCE to something PERMANENT that never changes ever again. Something
generic like
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:37:15AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
Have puppet, chef, ansible, salt, etc. been taught how to use dnf to
install packages? I think it would be a shame to force all this
software to do s/yum/dnf/ or to have to conditionally code for these
differences based on OS
On 2014-06-07 07:49, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
I'm orphaning drgeo and drgeo-doc. I originally picked them up because
I thought our school would use drgeo, but we haven't, so I'm letting it go.
IMHO it would be nice if this could stay in, but I'm not a Fedora
packager (yet? :-).
drgeo did
Excuse me.
To whom, or to where, should I write to request that dnf has a tools
package like yum has. Yum-utils.
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On Tue, 2014-05-13 at 18:56 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote:
Hi,
apitrace 5.0 bundles libbacktrace, which looks like is living within the
gcc sources. libbacktrace is not build as a shared library from the gcc
sources, and not packaged.
Is it feasible to build libbacktrace as a shared library
Hi David,
Probably the best place to ask is on the dnf bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=dnfproduct=Fedora
Also, I've noted that there is an open bug about a specific yum-util (
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048541).
Fabio
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:11
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz yselk...@redhat.com
wrote:
IMHO it would be nice if this could stay in, but I'm not a Fedora packager
(yet? :-).
FWIW, I just posted a patch for the FTBFS:
I'll take over the 1.x pre-smalltalk package, incorporate your patch
(thanks for
On 6/12/2014 5:53 PM, Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote:
Hi David,
Probably the best place to ask is on the dnf
bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=dnfproduct=Fedora
Also, I've noted that there is an open bug about a specific yum-util
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On Qui, 2014-06-12 at 11:06 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
how is this jujuxiii ?
I mean who is this jujuxiii ?
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Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 02:00:13AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
That was overly critical of me and did nothing to actually further the
discussion. I apologise.
No need to apologize! It's just the truth: ARM is not ready to be a
primary
Kevin, I disagree. A positive
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 18:17:01 -0400,
David dgbo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/12/2014 5:53 PM, Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote:
That would be a 'RFE? I have never really understtod just how to enter
one of those.
Add the futurefeature keyword. That keeps the bug in rawhide after branches.
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Kevin, I disagree. A positive tone to discussion is important even when
speaking the truth.
There was no negative tone in Matthew Garrett's original message:
If the Fedora/ARM community don't care about
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