Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On 06/17/2014 09:40 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > I am not away of any work to make mock use dnf. As part of GSoC Michael Simacek is working on improving mock. Among other features, DNF support is already implemented and working. More information can be found on his blog [1] (part of Fedora Planet

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 16:37:32 -0400 Peter Jones wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 02:40:45PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 08:52:34 -0400 > > Matthew Miller wrote: > >

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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On Tue, 2014-06-17 at 16:37 -0400, Peter Jones wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 02:40:45PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > I am not away of any work to make mock use dnf. dnf will > > need to be able to make mock chroots going all the way back to rhel5 > > since we use mock in the buildsystem and

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 02:40:45PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 08:52:34 -0400 > Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 02:44:10PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > * package 'dnf-yum-compat-command' is inst

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On 17 June 2014 19:11, David wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 6/17/2014 1:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 17.06.2014 19:26, schrieb David: >> >> before you call others "zealots" you should ask yourself if you >> are just only a ordinary user with his single mach

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

Am 17.06.2014 21:36, schrieb Stijn Hoop: > On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 08:03:20 -0600 > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:07:39 +0200 >> Jan Zelený wrote: >> >>> Any other suggestions then? Cause `pkg` would be my #1 choice. >> >> Personally, I think adding another name just adds another p

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 08:52:34 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 02:44:10PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > * package 'dnf-yum-compat-command' is installed by default. It > > obsoletes Yum and provides its own /usr/bin/yum, a > >

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 08:03:20 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:07:39 +0200 > Jan Zelený wrote: > > > Any other suggestions then? Cause `pkg` would be my #1 choice. > > Personally, I think adding another name just adds another problem. > > kevin > This, please do not invent

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On 6/17/2014 2:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, David wrote: > > > > > You completely missed my point. The Fedora Devs have been working on > this. The Fedora Devs want to do this. The Fedora Devs have said that > they are going to do this.

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

Am 17.06.2014 20:11, schrieb David: > On 6/17/2014 1:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Am 17.06.2014 19:26, schrieb David: > >> before you call others "zealots" you should ask yourself if you >> are just only a ordinary user with his single machine or have to >> manage *a lot* of machines, some

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

Hi On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, David wrote: > > > > You completely missed my point. The Fedora Devs have been working on > this. The Fedora Devs want to do this. The Fedora Devs have said that > they are going to do this. And when. Which means? You, and others, are > going to have to deal

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/17/2014 1:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 17.06.2014 19:26, schrieb David: > > before you call others "zealots" you should ask yourself if you > are just only a ordinary user with his single machine or have to > manage *a lot* of machines, so

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

Am 17.06.2014 19:26, schrieb David: > On 6/17/2014 12:50 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: >> On 06/11/2014 08:20 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: >>> The transition period is one reason why we want to keep the name dnf. >>> We'd basically like to keep current yum around for users that have >>> various scripts an

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

Once upon a time, David said: > Excuse me. By now I doubt anyone but the Yum zealots really care. Just > do it. Make the switch. The Yum zealots will find something else to > complain about later. Perhaps the size of the default font? :-) Please do not call people that like command consistency "

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On 6/17/2014 12:50 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > On 06/11/2014 08:20 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: >> The transition period is one reason why we want to keep the name dnf. >> We'd basically like to keep current yum around for users that have >> various scripts and stuff depending on it so they have some t

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On 06/11/2014 08:20 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: The transition period is one reason why we want to keep the name dnf. We'd basically like to keep current yum around for users that have various scripts and stuff depending on it so they have some time to migrate to dnf. Also presenting dnf as a separat

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

Am 17.06.2014 17:54, schrieb Jerry James: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:46 AM, poma wrote: >> fedora package manager aka fpm in EL8? :) >> So for a couple of years here we go again. >> BTW yum & "never finished one" are based on the actual package manager - >> rpm. >> man 8 yum >> "yum is an int

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:46 AM, poma wrote: > fedora package manager aka fpm in EL8? :) > So for a couple of years here we go again. > BTW yum & "never finished one" are based on the actual package manager - > rpm. > man 8 yum > "yum is an interactive, rpm based, package manager.". > > So in

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On 17.06.2014 09:13, Jon Kent wrote: fpm (fedora package manager). Flows nicely off the keyboard too 😊 fedora package manager aka fpm in EL8? :) So for a couple of years here we go again. BTW yum & "never finished one" are based on the actual package manager - rpm. man 8 yum "yum is an inte

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On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 12:00 +0400, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 21:37 +0400, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Thomas Haller wrote: > >> > On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 21:25 +0400, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > >

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:07:39 +0200 Jan Zelený wrote: > Any other suggestions then? Cause `pkg` would be my #1 choice. Personally, I think adding another name just adds another problem. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:/

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: > Any other suggestions then? Cause `pkg` would be my #1 choice. rum: {Redhat,RPM} Updater, Modified rup: {Redhat,RPM} UPdater packagectl Rich -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

- Original Message - > From: "Jan Zelený" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:07:39 AM > Subject: Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF > > On 16. 6. 2014 at 19:49:35, Peter Oliver wrote: > > On 16 June 2014 08:31, Jan Zelený wrote: > > > On 13

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On 17. 6. 2014 at 08:13:18, Jon Kent wrote: > fpm (fedora package manager). Flows nicely off the keyboard too 😊 Unfortunately this is not an option, the tool will also be in RHEL and all its derivatives. Thanks Jan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

On 2014-06-16, 15:06 GMT, drago01 wrote: >> yum-cron can actually apply updates [] > > That sounds dangerous ... updates are not really atomic (i.e not at > all) doing them silently in the background is a very bad idea. Yes, yum-cron has been hated by Seth for years, but there was still this

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

fpm (fedora package manager). Flows nicely off the keyboard too 😊 I'd agree that dnf is perhaps not the best name in the world, always makes me think 'did not finish' which isn't good really. Jon On 17 Jun 2014 08:07, "Jan Zelený" wrote: > On 16. 6. 2014 at 19:49:35, Peter Oliver wrote: > > On

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On 17. 6. 2014 at 07:27:23, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Zing wrote: > > Does yum have current developers/maintainers? If so, actually obsoleting > > yum seems kind of rude to me. If that's the case why not just leave yum > > as is? Those that want to use yum use yum

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

On 16. 6. 2014 at 19:49:35, Peter Oliver wrote: > On 16 June 2014 08:31, Jan Zelený wrote: > > On 13. 6. 2014 at 10:09:07, Chuck Anderson wrote: > >> So I propose we keep calling the project DNF and the package dnf, but > >> start the transition to a generic command name for "the tool that > >> in