Re: shutdown failure/delay (was: Note on 'systemd-216-9')

2014-11-04 Thread Felix Miata
Adam Williamson composed on 2014-11-04 23:22 (UTC-0800): > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1123170 , I never have time > to investigate it properly and provide details - sorry about that. But I > guess the same way of thinking would say the timer is a 'step in the > right direction' fo

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 04:52 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > It's not about Lennart. Afaik he usually sticks to git HEAD and/or > rawhide. There are multiple reports about systemd entering an infinite > loop and I *thought* that this is a step in the right > direction. Well, looking at

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 04:52 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > I'm very appreciative of the kernel promise of stability. But systemd > isn't at this stage yet, the codebase is much more in flux. Well, it's in flux, but it *is* the init system. It's kind of important. :) -- Adam Williams

Re: LLVM 3.5 rebase

2014-11-04 Thread Jens Petersen
llvm-3.5 seems to break Haskell programs compiled with ghc on ARM badly. > Perhaps I should just barge ahead with a compat-llvm34? Adam: this would be very welcome for ghc (ghc only needs llvm - not any clang bits). Otherwise currently we can't build any Haskell packages in Rawhide because compi

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 06:09:35PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 01:06 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 02:06:21PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 22:39 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > > > > > I

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 01:06 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 02:06:21PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 22:39 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > > > I understand that systemd git is not easy to follow, but I don't think > > >

Re: Porting initramfs-tools to dracut

2014-11-04 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Saurabh Kulkarni wrote: > Hi there, > > So I've been working on a project that requires me to have my own custom > initrd. The doc I'm following is specialized for ubuntu, so it makes use of > mkinitramfs to create initrd, and uses initramfs-tools/scripts and > init

Porting initramfs-tools to dracut

2014-11-04 Thread Saurabh Kulkarni
Hi there, So I've been working on a project that requires me to have my own custom initrd. The doc I'm following is specialized for ubuntu, so it makes use of mkinitramfs to create initrd, and uses initramfs-tools/scripts and initramfs-tools/hooks for serving its purpose. I tried using dracut to c

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-11-05)

2014-11-04 Thread Kalev Lember
== Meeting time change == Note, this week the meeting time is changed from 1700UTC to 1800UTC now that both Europe and the US have changed DST. Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC

[Test-Announce] 2014-11-05 @ 1600 UTC ** F21 Blocker Review

2014-11-04 Thread Mike Ruckman
# F21 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2014-11-05 # Time: 16:00 UTC (11:00 EST, 08:00 PST) # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net The first TC of Final is upon us! Along with that, we've changed up the release schedule a bit so we need to get to finding and knocking out these blocker

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 02:06:21PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 22:39 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > I understand that systemd git is not easy to follow, but I don't think > > this differes that much from other fast-changing projects. If you take > > a ran

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 21 Beta!

2014-11-04 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Tuesday, November 4, 2014, 6:01:35 PM, Robert Mayz wrote: >2014-11-04 23:55 GMT+01:00 Al Dunsmuir : >On Tuesday, November 4, 2014, 10:01:02 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> The Fedora 21 beta release is here, and - as usual - is packed >> with amazing improvements to Fedora, as well as fantastic fre

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 21 Beta!

2014-11-04 Thread Robert Mayr
2014-11-04 23:55 GMT+01:00 Al Dunsmuir : > . On Tuesday, November 4, 2014, 10:01:02 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > The Fedora 21 beta release is here, and - as usual - is packed > > with amazing improvements to Fedora, as well as fantastic free > > and open source software, gently harvested for you

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 21 Beta!

2014-11-04 Thread Al Dunsmuir
. On Tuesday, November 4, 2014, 10:01:02 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > The Fedora 21 beta release is here, and - as usual - is packed > with amazing improvements to Fedora, as well as fantastic free > and open source software, gently harvested for your enjoyment. No > bits were harmed in the making o

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 22:39 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > I understand that systemd git is not easy to follow, but I don't think > this differes that much from other fast-changing projects. If you take > a random kernel release, it's not like there's a nice lwn-style description > so

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 22:41 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 12:49:27PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 21:37 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 12:27:58PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > Teste

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 12:49:27PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 21:37 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 12:27:58PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > Testers, please take care to test the update thoroughly, despite the > > > > > smal

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 12:48:36PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 21:20 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:56:40AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 17:37 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 21:37 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 12:27:58PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > Testers, please take care to test the update thoroughly, despite the > > > > small bump and small description it is a major change to the package. > > >

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 21:20 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:56:40AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 17:37 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:30:32AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > systemd "216-9" is not b

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 12:27:58PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Testers, please take care to test the update thoroughly, despite the > > > small bump and small description it is a major change to the package. > > > That I can agree with. I'd much prefer a concrete list of things to > > test

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 21:13 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:30:32AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > An update has been submitted for systemd today: > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kmod-18-4.fc21,systemd-216-9.fc21 > > > > with a fairly shor

Re: Does Fedora have a technical expertise oriented SIG?

2014-11-04 Thread Peter Jones
On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 09:13:07AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2014-11-02 at 10:13 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 04:08:36PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > Is there any authoritative group at Fedora who wants the product to not > > > suck like that? > >

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:56:40AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 17:37 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:30:32AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > systemd "216-9" is not built from 216 at all, it is in fact systemd-217 > > > > Why the misleading

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:30:32AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > An update has been submitted for systemd today: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kmod-18-4.fc21,systemd-216-9.fc21 > > with a fairly short description. I wanted to flag up that, in fact, > systemd-216-9 is a major chang

Re: Proposal for integration tests infrastructure

2014-11-04 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 04:56 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > This looks related to: https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/InstalledTests > > (Note that the is equivalent to issues with rpm > %check) > > It's implemented by gnome-continuous, and there's been a bit of effort to > make -tests subpackag

[IMPORTANT] Fedora 21 Schedule Change

2014-11-04 Thread Stephen Gallagher
== tl;dr Version == We are accelerating the Fedora 21 schedule so that we will enter Final Freeze one week earlier than previously described on the schedule page[1]. This means that all fixes intended for inclusion in the Fedora 21 release must be submitted for the stable repository no later than

Re: Multiple problems with multiple monitors

2014-11-04 Thread Basil Mohamed Gohar
On 2014-10-13 10:23 AM, Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote: > I've searched for bugs related to the specific problems I've been having, and > I've not been able to find anything that describes what I'm seeing. > > I have an HP EliteBook 840 that also comes with an UltraDock, to which I've > plugged

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:30:32 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: systemd-216-8 (and 216-1 through 216-5) and earlier) was more or less identical to upstream systemd-stable 216: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd-stable/log/?h=v216-stable . systemd "216-9" is not built from 216 at all, i

Re: Requiring all files in /usr to be world-readable?

2014-11-04 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > Hello, > - Original Message - >> On Mon, 03.11.14 09:13, Miloslav Trmač (m...@redhat.com) wrote: >> > Hello, >> > - Original Message - >> > > On Fri, 31.10.14 10:04, Andrew Lutomirski (l...@mit.edu) wrote: >> > > >> > > > I fi

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 17:37 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:30:32AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > systemd "216-9" is not built from 216 at all, it is in fact systemd-217 > > Why the misleading version number? There is a comment in the spec: # This is really closer t

[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Final Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2014-11-04 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Final Test Compose 1 (TC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including changes, can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031 . Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing instructi

Re: Requiring all files in /usr to be world-readable?

2014-11-04 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Hello, - Original Message - > On Mon, 03.11.14 09:13, Miloslav Trmač (m...@redhat.com) wrote: > > Hello, > > - Original Message - > > > On Fri, 31.10.14 10:04, Andrew Lutomirski (l...@mit.edu) wrote: > > > > > > > I filed an FPC ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/467 > > >

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:30:32AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > systemd "216-9" is not built from 216 at all, it is in fact systemd-217 > > Why the misleading version number? > More importantly, why is this pushed so late in the r

Re: Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:30:32AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > systemd "216-9" is not built from 216 at all, it is in fact systemd-217 Why the misleading version number? -- Tomasz Torcz "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station xmpp: zdzich...@chrome.plwagon filled

Note on 'systemd-216-9'

2014-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
An update has been submitted for systemd today: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kmod-18-4.fc21,systemd-216-9.fc21 with a fairly short description. I wanted to flag up that, in fact, systemd-216-9 is a major change from systemd-216-8 and is not really systemd 216 at all. systemd-216-8 (an

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 21 Beta!

2014-11-04 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Fedora 21 beta release is here, and - as usual - is packed with amazing improvements to Fedora, as well as fantastic free and open source software, gently harvested for your enjoyment. No bits were harmed in the making of this beta. What is the Be

Re: Does Fedora have a technical expertise oriented SIG?

2014-11-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 10:13:10 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Is there any authoritative group at Fedora who wants the product to not > > suck like that? > > Authoritative? Probably FESCo. https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1365 Basically, we need to tell every Fedora User that Firefox and Cl

Re: Suggested Freeze Policy change for Fedora 22+

2014-11-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 03:26:50AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > I talked to several people over the last couple days about what we can > > do to try to avoid the "hero testing" treadmill that we've been on > > during every Freeze in recent memory (specifically that we're usually > > fixing Blocke

Re: Koji timeout

2014-11-04 Thread Dan Horák
On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:45:43 +0100 Andrea Musuruane wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Christopher Meng > wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Andrea Musuruane > > wrote: > >> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=8009403 > > > > Hi, > > > > Please try again with "make"

Re: Koji timeout

2014-11-04 Thread Andrea Musuruane
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Christopher Meng wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Andrea Musuruane wrote: >> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=8009403 > > Hi, > > Please try again with "make" directly instead of "make %{?_smp_mflags}". I tried but it stalled again: http:

Re: Koji timeout

2014-11-04 Thread Andrea Musuruane
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Dan Horák wrote: > the builders have 3.16.3-200.fc20.x86_64, could you retry the local > mock rebuild with this kernel installed? I know it won't solve the > problem, but might lead to having a reproducer. Eventually also with > the same mock config as used for the

F-21 Branched report: 20141104 changes

2014-11-04 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Nov 4 07:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [PyQuante] PyQuante-libint-1.6.4-11.fc21.1.armv7hl requires libint(armv7hl-32) = 0:1.1.6-2.fc21 [audtty] audtty-0.1.12-9.fc20.armv7hl requires libaudcli

Re: Requiring all files in /usr to be world-readable?

2014-11-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 03.11.14 09:13, Miloslav Trmač (m...@redhat.com) wrote: > Hello, > - Original Message - > > On Fri, 31.10.14 10:04, Andrew Lutomirski (l...@mit.edu) wrote: > > > > > I filed an FPC ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/467 > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > I very much agree wi

Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-11-04 Thread Martin Stransky
IMO It would be great if anyone can step in, rebuild the gtk3 package for other Fedora's and maintain the copr repo. I can help with any issues with that so feel free to ask. ma. On 11/04/2014 12:37 PM, Martin Stransky wrote: The Gtk3 Firefox is enabled for master (Fedora 22) now. If you'd li

Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-11-04 Thread Martin Stransky
The Gtk3 Firefox is enabled for master (Fedora 22) now. If you'd like to have gtk3 build for other distros, just change the toolkit_gtk3 variable and rebuild (locally, in copr). I'd be glad for any feedback/bugreport and please mind - it's still "rawhide" :) ma. On 01/13/2014 04:15 PM, Mart

rawhide report: 20141104 changes

2014-11-04 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Nov 4 05:15:02 UTC 2014 Broken deps for i386 -- [3Depict] 3Depict-0.0.16-3.fc22.i686 requires libmgl.so.7.2.0 [Sprog] Sprog-0.14-27.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.18.0) [alienarena] a

Re: Proposal for integration tests infrastructure

2014-11-04 Thread Colin Walters
This looks related to: https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/InstalledTests (Note that the is equivalent to issues with rpm %check) It's implemented by gnome-continuous, and there's been a bit of effort to make -tests subpackages for some pieces in Fedora, but AFAIK no runner yet. The thing that

Re: Koji timeout

2014-11-04 Thread Dan Horák
On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:40:07 +0100 Andrea Musuruane wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Dan Horák wrote: > > hm, it's not the first case where Mono enters a deadlock or endless > > loop ... > > > > What is your host system and what is the kernel version? > > $ cat /etc/redhat-release > Fedo

Re: Koji timeout

2014-11-04 Thread Andrea Musuruane
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Dan Horák wrote: > hm, it's not the first case where Mono enters a deadlock or endless > loop ... > > What is your host system and what is the kernel version? $ cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug) $ uname -r 3.16.6-200.fc20.x86_64 Bye, Andrea --

Re: Proposal for integration tests infrastructure

2014-11-04 Thread Honza Horak
Tim, thanks for your comments, I think we're on the same page in basically all aspects you mention. It seems like the issue was more wording and I still fail to find some better term for the tests that I was referring to -- so, how to ideally call the tests that are not unit tests any more, bu

Re: Koji timeout

2014-11-04 Thread Christopher Meng
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=8009403 Hi, Please try again with "make" directly instead of "make %{?_smp_mflags}". Yours sincerely, Christopher Meng http://cicku.me -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: Koji timeout

2014-11-04 Thread Dan Horák
On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:52:25 +0100 Andrea Musuruane wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to build pinta but it fails due to timeout on F20 and F22: > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=8009403 > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=8009471 > > > It built fine for F19 and F2