Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Till Maas
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:32:27AM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > want two outputs both named VGA-0. And caring about the names is > somewhat futile anyway since what you're usually more concerned with is > the _monitor_, which is why all sane desktops save configurations based > on EDIDs not on ou

Re: systemd.timer: Get next start time from unit being run?

2014-11-25 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Richard Shaw writes: I've got a TV schedule grabber script that needs to be run on a more or less daily basis. That would be good enough, but the script suggests a next start time in it's output when it completes. If I can figure out a way to pull that time from the script, is there a way

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:56:59 -0500 > Simo Sorce wrote: > >> We can install machine w/o user accounts, removing the ability to log >> in as root via ssh means those machines will not be accessible. > > This has been the reason this hasn't been

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Ian Kent
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 14:04 +0100, Simone Caronni wrote: > On 25 November 2014 at 13:20, Lukas Zapletal wrote: > I don't understand why I noticed this today, it looks like the > latest > update was a Critical Path one (???) when Fedora 20 was stable > for six >

Re: Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-11-05)

2014-11-25 Thread Honza Horak
Thanks, fixed in the invitation for tomorrow. Honza - Original Message - > On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 04:42:01AM -0500, Jens Petersen wrote: > > WG meeting will be at 12:00 UTC (07:00 EST, 13:00 Brno, 9:00 Boston, > > 21:00 Tokyo, 22:00 Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. > > Boston i

Re: Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-11-26)

2014-11-25 Thread Honza Horak
Sorry, wrong date, 2014-11-26 is correct. Honza - Original Message - > WG meeting will be at 12:00 UTC (07:00 EST, 13:00 Brno, 7:00 Boston, > 21:00 Tokyo, 22:00 Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. > > = Topics = > * Follow-ups > * Language specific repositories > * Election plannin

Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-11-25)

2014-11-25 Thread Honza Horak
WG meeting will be at 12:00 UTC (07:00 EST, 13:00 Brno, 7:00 Boston, 21:00 Tokyo, 22:00 Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. = Topics = * Follow-ups * Language specific repositories * Election planning * Chairman for next meeting * Open Floor -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: timedatex replacing systemd-timedated for NTP packages

2014-11-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > Some networks have bad NTP service in the sense that they hand out incorrect > time (not just off by a few seconds, but days or months, enough to skew > certificate validity). I'm not sure what we're supposed to do about such sabotage on

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo meeting (2014-11-26 at 18UTC)

2014-11-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic ticket #1349 Fedora 22 scheduling strategy (and b

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 09:20:35PM +0100, Petr Lautrbach wrote: > There are several use cases when local non-root users are not needed at > all as others already pointed out. Including in some cases where there should both be no root password _and_ no local non-system users. > The change itself i

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread Petr Lautrbach
On 11/21/2014 08:11 AM, P J P wrote: > Hello, > > Sshd(8) daemon by default allows remote users to login as root. > > 1. Is that really necessary? The original bug report [1] was kept opened mainly due to the lack of adding user functionality in anaconda. This is no more true, anaconda has

Re: Best way to use zram in Fedora 21?

2014-11-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.11.2014 um 21:03 schrieb Juan Orti: Hi, I know how to manually configure the zram, but what's the best way to do it? I've seen the unit zram.service of anaconda-core, and it gets activated when booting with inst.zram=on, but it looks like very anaconda-centric. Should something like [1]

Best way to use zram in Fedora 21?

2014-11-25 Thread Juan Orti
Hi, I know how to manually configure the zram, but what's the best way to do it? I've seen the unit zram.service of anaconda-core, and it gets activated when booting with inst.zram=on, but it looks like very anaconda-centric. Should something like [1] be packaged and included in the distro? or ma

Re: Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-11-05)

2014-11-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 04:42:01AM -0500, Jens Petersen wrote: > WG meeting will be at 12:00 UTC (07:00 EST, 13:00 Brno, 9:00 Boston, > 21:00 Tokyo, 22:00 Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. Boston is in the US/Eastern time zone, so, it's actually 7am Boston time, not 9. -- Matthew Miller

Open Seat on the Fedora Server Working Group

2014-11-25 Thread Stephen Gallagher
This past week, David Strauss chose to step down from his position on the Fedora Server Working Group, citing a lack of alignment with his current work usage. The Fedora Server SIG would like to thank David for his contributions up to this point and wish him well. This means that there is currentl

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread drago01
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 25/11/14 16:55, Adam Jackson wrote: >> >> On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 15:57 +, Tom Hughes wrote: >> >>> I thought multi-gpu randr was supported in 1.4? I certainly see one >>> provider for each of the two gpus in this machine, and can see five

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 11/25/2014 11:05 AM, P J P wrote: Hi, On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 10:00 PM, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: I have a server which only runs several VM's with specific services, no need user accounts in the host or in the VM's, so you propose when I reiinstall any of them create a user account i

systemd.timer: Get next start time from unit being run?

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Shaw
I've got a TV schedule grabber script that needs to be run on a more or less daily basis. That would be good enough, but the script suggests a next start time in it's output when it completes. If I can figure out a way to pull that time from the script, is there a way to pass that to systemd? Tha

Re: timedatex replacing systemd-timedated for NTP packages

2014-11-25 Thread Florian Weimer
On 11/25/2014 06:25 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 25.11.14 18:04, Florian Weimer (fwei...@redhat.com) wrote: On 11/25/2014 05:15 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Really? if you want a UI that controls whether NTP server software is running, why not call into the EnableUnitFiles() APIs dir

Re: timedatex replacing systemd-timedated for NTP packages

2014-11-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 25.11.14 11:08, Michael Catanzaro (mcatanz...@gnome.org) wrote: > On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 17:15 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > I am sorry, but timedated is really not the place to control NTP > > *server* software. It's simply, desktopy stuff, for controlling NTP > > clients. > > Of

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:05:59 + (UTC) P J P wrote: > Hi, > > > On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 10:00 PM, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: > > I have a server which only runs several VM's with specific > > services, no need user accounts in the host or in the VM's, > > > > so you propose when I reiinst

Re: timedatex replacing systemd-timedated for NTP packages

2014-11-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 25.11.14 18:04, Florian Weimer (fwei...@redhat.com) wrote: > On 11/25/2014 05:15 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >Really? if you want a UI that controls whether NTP server software is > >running, why not call into the EnableUnitFiles() APIs directly? > > Both chronyd and ntpd are often us

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Tom Hughes
On 25/11/14 16:55, Adam Jackson wrote: On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 15:57 +, Tom Hughes wrote: I thought multi-gpu randr was supported in 1.4? I certainly see one provider for each of the two gpus in this machine, and can see five connectors across the two with three monitors connected. It looks l

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread P J P
Hi, > On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 10:00 PM, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: > I have a server which only runs several VM's with specific services, no > need user accounts in the host or in the VM's, > > so you propose when I reiinstall any of them create a user account in > each of them, that will c

Re: timedatex replacing systemd-timedated for NTP packages

2014-11-25 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 17:15 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > I am sorry, but timedated is really not the place to control NTP > *server* software. It's simply, desktopy stuff, for controlling NTP > clients. Of course, but the desktopy NTP client in Fedora Workstation is chrony, as you know full

Re: timedatex replacing systemd-timedated for NTP packages

2014-11-25 Thread Florian Weimer
On 11/25/2014 05:15 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Really? if you want a UI that controls whether NTP server software is running, why not call into the EnableUnitFiles() APIs directly? Both chronyd and ntpd are often used as clients. Miroslav wasn't talking about server usage scenarios, but re

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 15:57 +, Tom Hughes wrote: > I thought multi-gpu randr was supported in 1.4? I certainly see one > provider for each of the two gpus in this machine, and can see five > connectors across the two with three monitors connected. It looks like > it just adds an extra digit

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 11/25/2014 09:45 AM, P J P wrote: On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 8:53 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:56:59 -0500 Simo Sorce wrote: We can install machine w/o user accounts, removing the ability to log in as root via ssh means those machines will not be accessible. This has be

[Bug 1167721] perl-Test-Module-Used-0.2.6 is available

2014-11-25 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1167721 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System --- perl-Test-Module-Used-0.2.6-1.fc21 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 21. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Test-Module-Used-0.2.6-1.fc21 -- You are receiving this mail because:

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread P J P
Hello Matthew, > On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 9:21 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Keep in mind that in cloud, cloud-init does the same thing (instead of > firstboot). Ah I see, cool! --- Regards -Prasad http://feedmug.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fed

Re: timedatex replacing systemd-timedated for NTP packages

2014-11-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 25.11.14 16:23, Miroslav Lichvar (mlich...@redhat.com) wrote: > This is about bug #1136905 [1], discussed previously on the systemd list > [2] and also on our desktop list [3]. > > The issue is that systemd-timedated now supports only systemd-timesyncd > for NTP and ignores other NTP serv

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Tom Hughes
On 25/11/14 15:32, Adam Jackson wrote: But when I say "come from the server" I really mean the 2D X driver makes up the name and the server just reports it. And indeed, between xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.21.15-4 and -9 output naming was changed to include a dash (if using UXA), which happened because

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread P J P
> On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 9:07 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > My machines get joined to an IPA domain as soon as they are finished > installing, I do *not* want a local user, it would be a liability. Well, I think this is more specific case for which remote 'root' login could be enabled by user.

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 03:45:08PM +, P J P wrote: > True, this concern has been raised before. We need to ensure that > user creates at least one non-root user account; firstboot is just > the right place to ensure that. Keep in mind that in cloud, cloud-init does the same thing (instead of

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread P J P
> On Tuesday, 25 November 2014 8:53 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:56:59 -0500 > Simo Sorce wrote: > >> We can install machine w/o user accounts, removing the ability to log >> in as root via ssh means those machines will not be accessible. > > This has been the reason this has

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 08:23:22 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:56:59 -0500 > Simo Sorce wrote: > > > We can install machine w/o user accounts, removing the ability to > > log in as root via ssh means those machines will not be accessible. > > This has been the reason this hasn'

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 09:14 +0100, Lukas Zapletal wrote: > my desktop was completely broken this morning because my startup scripts > rely on xrandr utility. An older update from this summer which I applied > recently changed it's output so device ids now contain dash characters > (e.g. instead VG

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:56:59 -0500 Simo Sorce wrote: > We can install machine w/o user accounts, removing the ability to log > in as root via ssh means those machines will not be accessible. This has been the reason this hasn't been changed the last few times someone proposed to change it. I d

File POE-Component-SSLify-1.012.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2014-11-25 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-POE-Component-SSLify: fc90d5016fb1427090eb865d72f60aba POE-Component-SSLify-1.012.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedo

timedatex replacing systemd-timedated for NTP packages

2014-11-25 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
This is about bug #1136905 [1], discussed previously on the systemd list [2] and also on our desktop list [3]. The issue is that systemd-timedated now supports only systemd-timesyncd for NTP and ignores other NTP services installed on the system. It doesn't know that chronyd or ntpd is enabled (us

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-25 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:24:32 + (UTC) P J P wrote: > > On Saturday, 22 November 2014 1:39 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 09:11:51AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> The latter. We have to install authorized_keys inside the VM > >> anyway, so we can touch sshd_conf

Re: Suggested Freeze Policy change for Fedora 22+

2014-11-25 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > > > > On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 10:21 +0100, drago01 wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stephen Gallagher > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yeah, that's a valid concern and one I'm not ignoring. I'm just > > > concerned that (going by F21 Alpha and Beta) the "hero

Re: Fedora scientific packaging

2014-11-25 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 07:21:03PM -0600, Mukundan Ragavan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 11/24/2014 03:49 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 10:12:46PM +0100, Zbigniew > > Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >> I have working packages [1]

Re: Suggested Freeze Policy change for Fedora 22+

2014-11-25 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 10:21 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stephen Gallagher > wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, that's a valid concern and one I'm not ignoring. I'm just > > concerned that (going by F21 Alpha and Beta) the "hero testing" doesn't > > result in avoiding a slip

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.11.2014 um 14:31 schrieb Lukas Zapletal: There's an intel driver from 18th november, for example: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15384/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.21.15-9.fc20 This seems to be much more related to your issues. I don't had any output renaming recently in the

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > > There's an intel driver from 18th november, for example: > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15384/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.21.15-9.fc20 > > > > This seems to be much more related to your issues. I don't had any output > > renaming recently in

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread poma
On 25.11.2014 10:26, drago01 wrote: > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Lukas Zapletal wrote: >> Hello, >> >> my desktop was completely broken this morning because my startup scripts >> rely on xrandr utility. An older update from this summer which I applied >> recently changed it's output so devic

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Lukas Zapletal
> There's an intel driver from 18th november, for example: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15384/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.21.15-9.fc20 > > This seems to be much more related to your issues. I don't had any output > renaming recently in the past year (Nouveau here). That answe

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Simone Caronni
On 25 November 2014 at 13:20, Lukas Zapletal wrote: > I don't understand why I noticed this today, it looks like the latest > update was a Critical Path one (???) when Fedora 20 was stable for six > months. > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7331/xorg-x11-server-utils-7.7-6

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Lukas Zapletal
> Anyhow, I hit the same thing this morning, with LVDS1 changing > to LVDS-0, HDMI3 to HDMI-2 and VGA1 to VGA-0. This was on an > Intel adapter. Exactly. I use i3wm and I use xrandr to determine if I have my laptop docked with IPS panel, docked with VGA monitor or standalone. Then I setup all my

F-21 Branched report: 20141125 changes

2014-11-25 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Nov 25 07:15:03 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [avro] avro-mapred-1.7.5-9.fc21.noarch requires hadoop-mapreduce avro-mapred-1.7.5-9.fc21.noarch requires hadoop-client [gofer] ruby-gofer-0.77.1

rawhide report: 20141125 changes

2014-11-25 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
* Mon Nov 24 2014 Jaroslav Škarvada - 1.2-5 - Used 64x64 icon from SVN Resolves: rhbz#1157554 Size change: 943 bytes net-tools-2.0-0.31.20141124git.fc22 --- * Mon Nov 24 2014 Jiri Popelka - 2.0-0.31.20141124git - latest upstream snapshot (#1162284) S

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Petr Šabata
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:26:43AM +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Lukas Zapletal wrote: > > Hello, > > > > my desktop was completely broken this morning because my startup scripts > > rely on xrandr utility. An older update from this summer which I applied > > recently ch

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Colin Macdonald
On 25/11/14 09:26, drago01 wrote: > Which desktop are you using? You shouldn't have to mess with startup > scripts that call xrandr to get a monitor setup working. Here's one example: Intel drv, monitor with broken EDID, Gnome 3.12. This is limited to either 800x60 or 1024x768 (forget which). (Ha

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread drago01
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Lukas Zapletal wrote: > Hello, > > my desktop was completely broken this morning because my startup scripts > rely on xrandr utility. An older update from this summer which I applied > recently changed it's output so device ids now contain dash characters > (e.g. i

Re: Suggested Freeze Policy change for Fedora 22+

2014-11-25 Thread drago01
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > Yeah, that's a valid concern and one I'm not ignoring. I'm just > concerned that (going by F21 Alpha and Beta) the "hero testing" doesn't > result in avoiding a slip most of the time. In the case of Alpha, that > was going on for a mo

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Lukas Zapletal
> Using what gfxchip? VGA0 I don't remember ever seeing. Most I remember seeing: Yeah, that was a typo. It's actually DP-1 and LVDS-0 (Thinkpad T403s with Intel). Anyway, this changed from DP1 and LVDS0. -- Later, Lukas #lzap Zapletal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:/

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Felix Miata
Lukas Zapletal composed on 2014-11-25 09:14 (UTC+0100): > my desktop was completely broken this morning because my startup scripts > rely on xrandr utility. An older update from this summer which I applied > recently changed it's output so device ids now contain dash characters > (e.g. instead VGA

Re: Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Ian Kent
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 09:14 +0100, Lukas Zapletal wrote: > Hello, > > my desktop was completely broken this morning because my startup scripts > rely on xrandr utility. An older update from this summer which I applied > recently changed it's output so device ids now contain dash characters > (e.g.

Are we rebasing xorg-x11 packages in F20?

2014-11-25 Thread Lukas Zapletal
Hello, my desktop was completely broken this morning because my startup scripts rely on xrandr utility. An older update from this summer which I applied recently changed it's output so device ids now contain dash characters (e.g. instead VGA0 I see VGA-1). I just wonder why this landed into stabl