Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On 7. 4. 2015 at 17:53:42, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 04/07/2015 05:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 08:38:57 -0500 > > > > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 10:22:25 -0300, > >> > >>Paulo César Pereira de Andrade > >> > >> wrote: > >>> I had also switch

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On 7. 4. 2015 at 18:34:49, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 04/07/2015 06:09 PM, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 at 17:54 Bruno Wolff III > > > > wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 09:07:08 -0600, > > > >Kevin Fenzi mailto:ke...@scrye.com>> wrote: > >

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Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

Am 07.04.2015 um 19:08 schrieb Bruno Wolff III: On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 18:55:38 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: it masks the existence of a security update with broken deps and we *really* don't need another flamewar thread - it is a bad attitude to make such options the default I think it'

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 18:55:38 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: it masks the existence of a security update with broken deps and we *really* don't need another flamewar thread - it is a bad attitude to make such options the default I think it's much more likely there is a good security update

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

Am 07.04.2015 um 19:02 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: W dniu 07.04.2015 o 18:39, Ralf Corsepius pisze: skip broken - is pushing fedora users into chaotic situations. - to cheat fedora users and to play down the "real problems". In a perfect world skip-broken should not even exist. In a perfect

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

W dniu 07.04.2015 o 18:39, Ralf Corsepius pisze: > skip broken > - is pushing fedora users into chaotic situations. > - to cheat fedora users and to play down the "real problems". > > In a perfect world skip-broken should not even exist. In a perfect world all Fedora packages would be always ins

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

Am 07.04.2015 um 18:30 schrieb Bruno Wolff III: On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 18:00:47 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: that's unacceptable and leads in burry *real* problems resulting in sonner or later security updates are broken and nobody take snotice soon enough The skip broken feature is more

Re: dnf debug-info-install

On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 15:30 +, Petr Pisar wrote: > Because it's not there: > > ┌──┬─┬┐ > │Original Yum tool │ New DNF command │ Package│ > ├──┼─┼┤ > │

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On 04/07/2015 06:30 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 18:00:47 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: that's unacceptable and leads in burry *real* problems resulting in sonner or later security updates are broken and nobody take snotice soon enough The skip broken feature is more li

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 18:33 +0200, drago01 wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Reindl Harald > wrote: > > > > > > Am 07.04.2015 um 17:53 schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > > > > > > On 04/07/2015 05:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > > > > dnf's default behavior is like yum with --skip-broken alr

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On 04/07/2015 06:09 PM, Tim Lauridsen wrote: On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 at 17:54 Bruno Wolff III mailto:br...@wolff.to>> wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 09:07:08 -0600, Kevin Fenzi mailto:ke...@scrye.com>> wrote: > >dnf's default behavior is like yum with --skip-broken already.

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 16:09:46 +, Tim Lauridsen wrote: afaik, --best don't erase stuff, you need --allowerasing for that --bestTry the best available package versions in transactions. Specifically during dnf upgrade, which by default skips over updates that can not be installed for depen

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 07.04.2015 um 17:53 schrieb Ralf Corsepius: >> >> On 04/07/2015 05:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> >>> dnf's default behavior is like yum with --skip-broken already. >> >> >> WHAT? >> >> --skip-broken is a band-aid to work around packagin

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 18:00:47 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: that's unacceptable and leads in burry *real* problems resulting in sonner or later security updates are broken and nobody take snotice soon enough The skip broken feature is more likely to help someone get timely security updat

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 at 17:54 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 09:07:08 -0600, > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > >dnf's default behavior is like yum with --skip-broken already. > > Not when installing packages. > > > > >If thats not working and you need to find out more, add '--best' to

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

Am 07.04.2015 um 17:53 schrieb Ralf Corsepius: On 04/07/2015 05:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: dnf's default behavior is like yum with --skip-broken already. WHAT? --skip-broken is a band-aid to work around packaging mistakes and bugs and NOT be the default. IMO, this kind of behavior is not he

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On 04/07/2015 05:07 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 08:38:57 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 10:22:25 -0300, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: I had also switched back to yum in rawhide due to --skip-broken, and in a few updates not even needing it (I

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 09:07:08 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: dnf's default behavior is like yum with --skip-broken already. Not when installing packages. If thats not working and you need to find out more, add '--best' to see things without 'skip-broken'. My understanding is that --best c

Re: dnf debuginfo-install [Re: dnf debug-info-install]

On 7.4.2015 17:47, Petr Spacek wrote: > On 7.4.2015 14:47, Jan Kratochvil wrote: >> The current problem is that the suggestion GDB makes will not work anyway due >> to: >> dnf debuginfo-install does not accept NVRA >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1208769 > > I was personal

Re: dnf debuginfo-install [Re: dnf debug-info-install]

On 7.4.2015 14:47, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > The current problem is that the suggestion GDB makes will not work anyway due > to: > dnf debuginfo-install does not accept NVRA > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1208769 I was personally fixing that in https://github.com/rpm-softw

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Re: dnf debug-info-install

On 2015-04-07, Michal Luscon wrote: > On 04/07/2015 02:38 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 12:25 +, Tim Lauridsen wrote: >>> debug-info-install is in dnf-plugins-core >> Ah, OK. So two problems: >> >> * The yum2dnf man page says the command is 'debug-info-install' but

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 08:38:57 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 10:22:25 -0300, > Paulo César Pereira de Andrade > wrote: > > > > I had also switched back to yum in rawhide due to --skip-broken, > > and > >in a few updates not even needing it (I would first see what is > >b

Re: A proposal for Fedora updates

On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 19:20:10 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 23:28:15 +, > Bojan Smojver wrote: > >Kevin Fenzi scrye.com> writes: > > > >Imagine a regular Fedora user - the one that has no idea about koji. > >This regular user wants to contribute by testing packages

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 10:22:25 -0300, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: I had also switched back to yum in rawhide due to --skip-broken, and in a few updates not even needing it (I would first see what is broken, and if not something "vital", use --skip-broken), while dnf would just fa

Re: dnf debug-info-install

On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 14:51:49 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 7.4.2015 v 14:25 Michael Catanzaro napsal(a): > > On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 14:15 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> Dne 7.4.2015 v 14:09 Michael Catanzaro napsal(a): > >>> I want 'dnf debug-info-install' to be available by default on > >>> Work

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

Am 07.04.2015 um 15:22 schrieb "Paulo =?iso-8859-1?b?Q+lzYXI=?= Pereira de Andrade =?us-ascii?q?=3Cpaulo=2Ecesar=2Epereira=2Ede=2Eandrade=40gmail=2E?= =?us-ascii?q?com=3E?=": 2015-04-07 9:53 GMT-03:00 Jan Zelený : [...] I think you might have misunderstood what's happening. We don't want to

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

2015-04-07 9:53 GMT-03:00 Jan Zelený : [...] > I think you might have misunderstood what's happening. We don't want to offer Hopefully I did not :) > dnf as an alternative to yum. Dnf is its successor. Yum is deprecated by dnf > in F22 and is very likely going to be removed in one of the next r

Re: dnf debug-info-install

On 04/07/2015 02:38 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 12:25 +, Tim Lauridsen wrote: debug-info-install is in dnf-plugins-core Ah, OK. So two problems: * The yum2dnf man page says the command is 'debug-info-install' but it is 'debuginfo-install'. gdb gets the name righ

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

On 3. 4. 2015 at 08:34:16, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > There's some confusion around this, so I thought I would post to try > > and clear up things. In the event I am wrong on any of the below, please > > do feel free to correct me. ;) > > > >

Re: dnf debug-info-install

Dne 7.4.2015 v 14:25 Michael Catanzaro napsal(a): > On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 14:15 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Dne 7.4.2015 v 14:09 Michael Catanzaro napsal(a): >>> Hi, >>> >>> I want 'dnf debug-info-install' to be available by default on >>> Workstation. >> Sorry for my ignorance, but why it should

dnf debuginfo-install [Re: dnf debug-info-install]

On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 14:25:32 +0200, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Because gdb recommends you use it whenever it detects that debuginfo > is missing. :-) Then the process for figuring out how to install it is > unnecessarily complex; I have filed+discussed that it is really complex to find dnf plugi

Re: dnf debug-info-install

Guys, debuginfo-isntall is in dnf-plugins-core. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: > On 7. 4. 2015 at 07:25:32, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 14:15 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> > Dne 7.4.2015 v 14:09 Michael Catanzaro napsal(a): >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > I want '

Re: dnf debug-info-install

On 7. 4. 2015 at 07:25:32, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 14:15 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 7.4.2015 v 14:09 Michael Catanzaro napsal(a): > > > Hi, > > > > > > I want 'dnf debug-info-install' to be available by default on > > > Workstation. > > > > Sorry for my ignorance,

Re: dnf debug-info-install

On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 12:25 +, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > debug-info-install is in dnf-plugins-core Ah, OK. So two problems: * The yum2dnf man page says the command is 'debug-info-install' but it is 'debuginfo-install'. gdb gets the name right; no change needed there. * The man page says t

Re: dnf debug-info-install

Hi, I want 'dnf debug-info-install' to be available by default on Workstation. Right now it lives in the dnf-plugins-extras package, which depends on snapper, which we can't install by default. Can this plugin please move to dnf-plugins-core? Michael I think this is related: https://bugzilla

Re: dnf debug-info-install

Am 07.04.2015 um 14:25 schrieb Michael Catanzaro: Anyway, whatever in dnf-plugins-extras that depends on snapper really ought to move to another package. That is not a reasonable dependency. It tries (and fails) to snapshot my system whenever I run 'dnf', hence I uninstalled dnf-plugins-extras

Re: dnf debug-info-install

On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 14:15 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 7.4.2015 v 14:09 Michael Catanzaro napsal(a): > > Hi, > > > > I want 'dnf debug-info-install' to be available by default on > > Workstation. > > Sorry for my ignorance, but why it should be installed by default? > > Vít Because gdb re

Re: dnf debug-info-install

On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 at 14:10 Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Hi, > > I want 'dnf debug-info-install' to be available by default on > Workstation. Right now it lives in the dnf-plugins-extras package, > which depends on snapper, which we can't install by default. > > Can this plugin please move to dnf-p

Re: dnf debug-info-install

Dne 7.4.2015 v 14:09 Michael Catanzaro napsal(a): > Hi, > > I want 'dnf debug-info-install' to be available by default on > Workstation. Sorry for my ignorance, but why it should be installed by default? Vít > Right now it lives in the dnf-plugins-extras package, > which depends on snapper,

dnf debug-info-install

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