Re: Anyone know how to contact maintainer Salimma?

2016-07-01 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hi Avram, Let's continue this in Bugzilla. Best regards, - Michel On Sat, Jul 2, 2016, 01:08 Avram Lubkin wrote: > Thanks Haïkel. I'll take you up on that if needed, but assuming I don't > hear from him soon, I'll put in a request to take over the package. Sphinx > sees a lot of development,

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III said: > On Sat, Jul 02, 2016 at 00:48:14 +0200, > Michael Scherer wrote: > >So that's rather fast to explain. Libero.it use this SPF record: > > Isn't SPF tied to the envelope sender address and not the From: > header? Yes. Like I said earlier, the problem is

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Automatic Provides for Python RPM Packages

2016-07-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Tomas Orsava wrote: > Oh, sorry, I didn't look at the user name :) > > Could you please expand on what you have written here? > I'm not sure I follow you entirely. So, the "problem" with --majorver-provides occurs when either of the two conditions are true: * Ther

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jul 02, 2016 at 00:48:14 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: So that's rather fast to explain. Libero.it use this SPF record: Isn't SPF tied to the envelope sender address and not the From: header? The messages do have an envelope sender address for the list, so I don't think SPF should b

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Automatic Provides for Python RPM Packages

2016-07-01 Thread Tomas Orsava
Oh, sorry, I didn't look at the user name :) Could you please expand on what you have written here? I'm not sure I follow you entirely. - Original Message - From: "Neal Gompa" To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43:46 PM Subject: Re: F25 System W

Re: new DNF for everyone

2016-07-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 1 July 2016 at 17:54, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Jul 1, 2016 2:36 PM, "Stephen John Smoogen" wrote: >> >> Do you want to drop dnf from epel since it is so old? >> > > It's required for mock to work for Fedora and Mageia build targets on RHEL > and CentOS. > Ah ok. Thanks for that info. Is the ver

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Michael Scherer
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 05:02:58PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2016-07-01 at 16:19 -0400, Dan Book wrote: > > Nobody is blocking you. But aside from this one instance I went > > digging > > through my spam folder, I do not see your messages, and I suspect > > many > > others do not ei

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread gil
Il 02/07/2016 00:02, Michael Catanzaro ha scritto: P.S. gil, keep in mind that we're not going to see your replies. I can not care less. better that way -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2016-07-01 at 16:19 -0400, Dan Book wrote: >> Nobody is blocking you. But aside from this one instance I went >> digging >> through my spam folder, I do not see your messages, and I suspect >> many >> others do not either. Communic

Self Introduction: Kristof Szabo

2016-07-01 Thread Kristof Szabo
Hi, I've just raised to my first package review request for ZeroTier (network virtualization software) under https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1352169. I think it makes sense if I introduce myself: I'm Kristof Szabo, I live in Germany/Düsseldorf, I come from Hungary/Budapest. I'm a

Re: multi-CPU optimization inside a distribution

2016-07-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 01:42:40PM -0400, Solomon Peachy wrote: > With very few exceptions (eg Gigabyte's mostly-unobtainable MP30-AR0 or > some locked-down appliance-type servers) they've all been ultra-dense > high-end boxes (dozens of cores per U) priced into the stratosphere or > glorified c

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2016-07-01 at 16:19 -0400, Dan Book wrote: > Nobody is blocking you. But aside from this one instance I went > digging > through my spam folder, I do not see your messages, and I suspect > many > others do not either. Communication doesn't work if you can't reach > the > audience, quite lit

Re: new DNF for everyone

2016-07-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Jul 1, 2016 2:36 PM, "Stephen John Smoogen" wrote: > > Do you want to drop dnf from epel since it is so old? > It's required for mock to work for Fedora and Mageia build targets on RHEL and CentOS. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/

Re: new DNF for everyone

2016-07-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
Do you want to drop dnf from epel since it is so old? On 1 July 2016 at 13:06, Honza Šilhan wrote: > Hi, > > DNF is in EPEL for more than one year, unfortunately there was still > the old DNF-0.6.4 version. Over that time in DNF were implemented a > lot of great features and plenty of bugs have b

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread gil
Il 01/07/2016 22:19, Dan Book ha scritto: Nobody is blocking you. But aside from this one instance I went digging through my spam folder, I do not see your messages, and I suspect many others do not either. Communication doesn't work if you can't reach the audience, quite literally in this ca

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Dan Book
> > repeat my self for last time: is not a my problem. > if you want block another time my fedora account, please, > take a seat > regards > .g > Nobody is blocking you. But aside from this one instance I went digging through my spam folder, I do not see your messages, and I suspect many others do

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Corey 'linuxmodder' Sheldon
Inline replies. On 07/01/2016 05:12 PM, gil wrote: > > > > Il 01/07/2016 18:41, Jeffrey Ollie ha scritto: >> Gil, you don't seem to realize that this isn't *our* spam problem, >> it's *yours*. It's pretty much guaranteed that all of your email sent >> to the Fedora mailing lists ends up in the sp

Re: About dnf failing to honore conditional level in comps.xml

2016-07-01 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
On 24/06/16 02:36 AM, Honza Šilhan wrote: >> From: "Luya Tshimbalanga" >> >> dnf has issues at honoring conditional levels written on comps.xml. >> >> As a result, some packages will not be installed by either anaconda or >> livemedia build system. >> >> I have already submitted a bug report on th

Re: multi-CPU optimization inside a distribution

2016-07-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Solomon Peachy wrote: > On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 11:35:27AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> If I could afford it, I'd pay a significant premium to get a Talos board. >> But as it is, I'm going to be stuck using second hand, pretty old computers >> for the foreseeabl

Re: Anyone know how to contact maintainer Salimma?

2016-07-01 Thread Avram Lubkin
Thanks Haïkel. I'll take you up on that if needed, but assuming I don't hear from him soon, I'll put in a request to take over the package. Sphinx sees a lot of development, so we need to make sure we keep the latest maintained in rawhide. The current version is from March 2015. On Thu, Jun 30, 2

Re: multi-CPU optimization inside a distribution

2016-07-01 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 11:35:27AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > If I could afford it, I'd pay a significant premium to get a Talos board. > But as it is, I'm going to be stuck using second hand, pretty old computers > for the foreseeable future. And even though "significant premium" is a polite

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread gil
Il 01/07/2016 18:41, Jeffrey Ollie ha scritto: Gil, you don't seem to realize that this isn't *our* spam problem, it's *yours*. It's pretty much guaranteed that all of your email sent to the Fedora mailing lists ends up in the spam folder of people that use GMail. There are probably many othe

[EPEL-devel] new DNF for everyone

2016-07-01 Thread Honza Šilhan
Hi, DNF is in EPEL for more than one year, unfortunately there was still the old DNF-0.6.4 version. Over that time in DNF were implemented a lot of great features and plenty of bugs have been fixed. DNF (especially its libraries) could not be updated in EPEL repository because of its policy. Now w

new DNF for everyone

2016-07-01 Thread Honza Šilhan
Hi, DNF is in EPEL for more than one year, unfortunately there was still the old DNF-0.6.4 version. Over that time in DNF were implemented a lot of great features and plenty of bugs have been fixed. DNF (especially its libraries) could not be updated in EPEL repository because of its policy. Now w

HeadsUp: NSS 3.25 released and on it's way to fedora

2016-07-01 Thread Elio Maldonado
Last week NSS 3.25 was released and it's now on Rawhide and it's now slowly making it's to fedora stable branches. The upstream release notes are at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Projects/NSS/NSS_3.25_release_notes. Though it's a minor release it's one with many changes that

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:42 AM, gil wrote: > Il 01/07/2016 01:54, Joel Rees ha scritto: > > To keep this off-list as much as possible, the rant is here: > http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2016/07/to-gil-tim-fedora-et-al.html > > (The blame lies elsewhere. I wish I had the network and social cred to > g

Re: multi-CPU optimization inside a distribution

2016-07-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 00:34:02 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: To get developers they need to get a CPU/motherboard combination out for under $1000, likely closer to $500, as these will be purchases as a secondary system to "play with" because there is no direct way to make money as a POWER d

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2016-07-01)

2016-07-01 Thread Parag Nemade
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2016-07-01) === Meeting started by paragan at 16:01:02 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-07-01/fesco.2016-07-01-16.01.log.html . Meeting summary -

Re: [Modularity] BPO - the great UI that shows you everything

2016-07-01 Thread Adam Samalik
Thanks for the response. I agree, asking you "I am building something I haven't described, how do you want to use it?" might have not been the best idea... So please, let me try that again and better. :-) I have created a wiki page [1] that briefly describes the BPO component, what data would be a

Fedora Rawhide-20160701.n.0 compose check report

2016-07-01 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Workstation live i386 Cloud_base raw-xz i386 Atomic raw-xz x86_64 Kde raw-xz armhfp Minimal raw-xz armhfp Workstation live x86_64 Failed openQA tests: 21/78 (x86_64), 2/16 (i386) ID: 24327 Test: x86_64 Atomic-boot-iso install_default URL: https://openqa.fedoraproje

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Automatic Provides for Python RPM Packages

2016-07-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Tomas Orsava wrote: > I'm sorry, I could have expanded on it. > > The difference is that if we enable --majorver-provides than there's no way > we can ship more than one Minor version per a Major version [0]. > > With macros, however, we have no problem shipping two

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Automatic Provides for Python RPM Packages

2016-07-01 Thread Tomas Orsava
I'm sorry, I could have expanded on it. The difference is that if we enable --majorver-provides than there's no way we can ship more than one Minor version per a Major version [0]. With macros, however, we have no problem shipping two minor versions, and the macros will continue to work, poin

Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-07-01)

2016-07-01 Thread Parag Nemade
Hi, On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 4:08 AM, Parag Nemade wrote: >> >> #topic #1592 Redefinition of what constitutes a secondary/alternate >> architecture in Fedora >> .fesco 1592 >> https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1592 > > I honestly don't think

Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-07-01)

2016-07-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 4:08 AM, Parag Nemade wrote: > > #topic #1592 Redefinition of what constitutes a secondary/alternate > architecture in Fedora > .fesco 1592 > https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1592 I honestly don't think this is ready for a meeting yet. While I'm mostly in support of i

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread gil
Il 01/07/2016 01:54, Joel Rees ha scritto: To keep this off-list as much as possible, the rant is here: http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2016/07/to-gil-tim-fedora-et-al.html (The blame lies elsewhere. I wish I had the network and social cred to get a real movement started, away from the current fac

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Automatic Provides for Python RPM Packages

2016-07-01 Thread Tomas Orsava
Hi Jason! Ticket created: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/635 Tomas - Original Message - From: "Jason L Tibbitts III" To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 6:33:48 PM Subject: Re: F25 System Wide Change: Automatic Provides for Python RPM Packages > "JR

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Automatic Provides for Python RPM Packages

2016-07-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 2:48 AM, Tomas Orsava wrote: > Hi Neal! > > I believe you will be able to use a macro for that so that dependencies are > not tied to specific minor versions. I.e. something like: > > (Build)Requires: python%{python3_version}dist(somemodule) > > Of course that isn't very ne

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20160701.n.0 changes

2016-07-01 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20160630.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20160701.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 4 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 129 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 483.09 KiB Size of dropped packages

F25 Self Contained Change: Erlang 19

2016-07-01 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Erlang 19 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Erlang_19 Change owner(s): * Peter Lemenkov * Fedora Erlang SIG * Randy Barlow * Jeremy Cline == Detailed Description == Upgrade Erlang to version 19 which brings a lot of good stuff. Just a few highlights:

F25 Self Contained Change: Zend Framework 3

2016-07-01 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Zend Framework 3 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ZF3 Change owner(s): * Remi Collet and PHP SIG == Detailed Description == See upstream annoucement: Zend Framework 3 Released! [1] The Zend Framework is a huge set of ~60 components. The framework vers

F25 Self Contained Change: IBus Emoji Typing

2016-07-01 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: IBus Emoji Typing = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IBus_Emoji_Typing Change owner(s): * Takao Fujiwara The IBus core will provide the Emoji Unicode typing with the IBus XKB engines. == Detailed Description == IBus has already provided Unicode hex cod

Re: Looking for a proven packager

2016-07-01 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 01/07/16 10:57 +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote: On 30/06/16 16:27 +, Christopher wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 4:35 AM Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: First thing you should do is to send your patch upstream. If upstream will say "it's good p

Re: Looking for a proven packager

2016-07-01 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 30/06/16 16:27 +, Christopher wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 4:35 AM Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > First thing you should do is to send your patch upstream. If upstream > will say "it's good patch", I will help you to get it in Fedora bef

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Automatic Provides for Python RPM Packages

2016-07-01 Thread Tomas Orsava
Hi Neal! I believe you will be able to use a macro for that so that dependencies are not tied to specific minor versions. I.e. something like: (Build)Requires: python%{python3_version}dist(somemodule) Of course that isn't very neat, so maybe 2 macros could be provided that would work thus: (B

Re: Injecting perl-devel and perl-generators build-requires

2016-07-01 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2016-07-01, Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2016-06-29, Petr Pisar wrote: >> We could download root.logs from Koji and grep them for "Package >> perl-4:\S* is already installed, skipping". That should provide some >> data. [...] > the logs cannot be used for that purpose. > I commenced "dnf repoquery -

Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-07-01)

2016-07-01 Thread Parag Nemade
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2016-07-01 16:00 UTC' Links to all tickets below c

Re: Injecting perl-devel and perl-generators build-requires

2016-07-01 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2016-06-29, Petr Pisar wrote: > We could download root.logs from Koji and grep them for "Package > perl-4:\S* is already installed, skipping". That should provide some > data. > The dnf log is odd. E.g.