Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > > Apples and oranges. There's no installer on ARM. There's no need to wipe > > all your data on a desktop system that you have one unit of. > > Yes, there is, we support anaconda just like on all the other arches. > It's not as widely used as people like to just consume the disk images >

Re: Recommended upgrade procedure for >1 release upgrades

2016-11-17 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qui, 2016-11-17 at 21:04 +0100, Christian Dersch wrote: > > On 11/17/2016 09:01 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > > > On 17/11/16 10:26 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > Hi, folks! > > > > > > While looking into an issue with how GNOME Software decides which > > > release to offer an upg

Re: Recommended upgrade procedure for >1 release upgrades

2016-11-17 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qui, 2016-11-17 at 12:25 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2016-11-17 at 12:18 -0800, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > > > > > > > You'll notice we don't explicitly specify *how* you should do > > > this. > > > That is, > > >

Re: Recommended upgrade procedure for >1 release upgrades

2016-11-17 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
On 17/11/16 12:04 PM, Christian Dersch wrote: > > On 11/17/2016 09:01 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: >> On 17/11/16 10:26 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> Hi, folks! >>> >>> While looking into an issue with how GNOME Software decides which >>> release to offer an upgrade to when there's more than one p

Re: Modifying container storage for Fedora 26.

2016-11-17 Thread Denise Dumas
So are we going to see you tomorrow at BoA? How is it going? Denise > On Nov 17, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Subhendu Ghosh wrote: > > Assuming cloud-init can also select the storage or is that too late in the > process? > > >> On Nov 16, 2016 15:58, "Vivek Goyal" wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 0

Re: Modifying container storage for Fedora 26.

2016-11-17 Thread Subhendu Ghosh
Assuming cloud-init can also select the storage or is that too late in the process? On Nov 16, 2016 15:58, "Vivek Goyal" wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 03:19:06PM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On 11/16/2016 03:09 PM, Vivek Goyal wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 03:01:06PM -0500, Step

Re: Recommended upgrade procedure for >1 release upgrades

2016-11-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2016-11-17 at 12:18 -0800, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Adam Williamson >> wrote: >> >> > You'll notice we don't explicitly specify *how* you should do this. >> > That is, >> > if you're currently runni

Orphaning bijiben

2016-11-17 Thread Pierre-Yves Luyten
Hi, bijiben is GNOME notes. Since i am not any more working on bijiben upstream, i am now orphaning package. So, upstream maintainer is needed [1]. The most important is to port to newer WebKit version [2]. Upstream bug has partial patch for this so its quite doable. Cheers Pierre-Yves [1]

Re: Recommended upgrade procedure for >1 release upgrades

2016-11-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2016-11-17 at 12:18 -0800, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > You'll notice we don't explicitly specify *how* you should do this. > > That is, > > if you're currently running Fedora 23, and you want to upgrade to > > Fedora 25 > > next w

Re: Recommended upgrade procedure for >1 release upgrades

2016-11-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > You'll notice we don't explicitly specify *how* you should do this. That is, > if you're currently running Fedora 23, and you want to upgrade to Fedora 25 > next week, are you supposed to: > > i) Upgrade to Fedora 24 first, then from Fedo

Re: Recommended upgrade procedure for >1 release upgrades

2016-11-17 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > On 17/11/16 10:26 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> Hi, folks! >> >> While looking into an issue with how GNOME Software decides which >> release to offer an upgrade to when there's more than one plausible >> candidate, I noticed something in

Re: Recommended upgrade procedure for >1 release upgrades

2016-11-17 Thread Christian Dersch
On 11/17/2016 09:01 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > On 17/11/16 10:26 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> Hi, folks! >> >> While looking into an issue with how GNOME Software decides which >> release to offer an upgrade to when there's more than one plausible >> candidate, I noticed something interestin

Re: Recommended upgrade procedure for >1 release upgrades

2016-11-17 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
On 17/11/16 10:26 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi, folks! > > While looking into an issue with how GNOME Software decides which > release to offer an upgrade to when there's more than one plausible > candidate, I noticed something interesting: we do not actually have a > policy on what we 'recommen

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On 2016-11-17 11:22 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> For some time now, the system partition is not HFS+ and not >> identifiable as HFS+ and cannot be mounted on Linux in any way. The >> default installation uses Core Storage (Apple's LVM lik

Re: F26 Self Contained Change: Module Build Service

2016-11-17 Thread Ralph Bean
On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 05:55:21PM -0500, Ben Rosser wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 4:13 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > > > For the Fedora 26 timeframe, we will lock down the users who can > > submit to the MBS to a small number of Modularity WG members. This is > > not ideal, but the thought is that we

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2016-11-17 11:22 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: For some time now, the system partition is not HFS+ and not identifiable as HFS+ and cannot be mounted on Linux in any way. The default installation uses Core Storage (Apple's LVM like thing), and even converts non-Core Storage systems upon upgrade so t

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On 2016-11-17 10:30 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> Not exactly. I do the same tests every cycle and assumed I had done >> those tests, and I still think I did, but it's possible there's some >> unusual nuance in my particular setup that cau

Re: F26 Self Contained Change: Module Build Service

2016-11-17 Thread Ralph Bean
Hey, sorry I didn't respond sooner. I failed to see this hit the list. Responses follow inline, below. On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 07:22:12AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 4:13 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > > = Proposed Self Contained Change: Module Build Service = > > https://fedorapr

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2016-11-17 10:30 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: Not exactly. I do the same tests every cycle and assumed I had done those tests, and I still think I did, but it's possible there's some unusual nuance in my particular setup that caused me to not hit the bug. But I'm not traveling with my Mac at the mo

Fedora Rawhide-20161117.n.0 compose check report

2016-11-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Cloud_base qcow2 x86_64 Atomic qcow2 x86_64 Workstation live i386 Kde live x86_64 Cloud_base raw-xz x86_64 Atomic raw-xz x86_64 Workstation live x86_64 Kde live i386 Failed openQA tests: 54/79 (x86_64), 14/15 (i386), 1/2 (arm) Old failures (same test failed in Rawhide-20

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 7:43 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > 2. The Fedora QA group has 1 mac mini which is very old and is only > used for total install and not dual boot. It would not have found this > issue. The Fedora QA group also has no one using Mac hardware day to > day. The age is pro

Recommended upgrade procedure for >1 release upgrades

2016-11-17 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi, folks! While looking into an issue with how GNOME Software decides which release to offer an upgrade to when there's more than one plausible candidate, I noticed something interesting: we do not actually have a policy on what we 'recommend' people to do in this case. There's one specific

Fedora 25 Final compose 1.3 is considered as GOLD and the status is GO

2016-11-17 Thread Jan Kurik
At the second round of Fedora 25 Final Go/No-Go Meeting, has just been Fedora 25 Final compose 1.3 declared as GOLD. GA of this release is planed on Tuesday 2016-November-22. Meeting details can be seen here: Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2016-11-17/f25-final-gono-go-mee

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 17 November 2016 at 09:08, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> >> >> - Original Message - >>> On 11 November 2016 at 03:20, Andreas Tunek wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > As a mac owner (although one that is not very well supported by >>> >

Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-11-18)

2016-11-17 Thread Adam Miller
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2016-11-18 16:00 UTC' Links to all issues below ca

F26 System Wide Change: Fedora 26 Boost 1.63 upgrade

2016-11-17 Thread Jan Kurik
= System Wide Change: Fedora 26 Boost 1.63 upgrade = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F26Boost163 Change owner(s): * Jonathan Wakely < jwakely AT redhat DOT com > This change brings Boost 1.63.0 to Fedora 26. This will mean F26 ships with a recent upstream Boost release. == Detailed Descr

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 17 November 2016 at 11:40, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Adam Williamson > wrote: >> On 2016-11-17 07:43 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >>> >>> 2. The Fedora QA group has 1 mac mini which is very old and is only >>> used for total install and not dual boot. It would no

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On 2016-11-17 07:43 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> >> 2. The Fedora QA group has 1 mac mini which is very old and is only >> used for total install and not dual boot. It would not have found this >> issue. The Fedora QA group also has

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2016-11-17 07:43 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: 2. The Fedora QA group has 1 mac mini which is very old and is only used for total install and not dual boot. It would not have found this issue. The Fedora QA group also has no one using Mac hardware day to day. This bit isn't quite true. We

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20161117.n.0 changes

2016-11-17 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20161116.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20161117.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 9 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 66 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 3.35 MiB Size of dropped packages

Fedora 25-20161117.n.0 compose check report

2016-11-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 7/101 (x86_64), 2/17 (i386) New failures (same test did not fail in 25-20161116.n.0): ID: 48821 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/48821 ID: 48826 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso deskto

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 17 November 2016 at 10:22, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > - Original Message - > >> No I am not asking for continuous testing. I am asking that if people >> really care about the hardware support they get in the muck and do >> just a little of the work in an organized fashion. Put togethe

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Bastien Nocera
- Original Message - > No I am not asking for continuous testing. I am asking that if people > really care about the hardware support they get in the muck and do > just a little of the work in an organized fashion. Put together a Mac > SIG that focuses on getting the best experience on t

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Peter Robinson
> >> No I am not asking for continuous testing. I am asking that if people >> really care about the hardware support they get in the muck and do >> just a little of the work in an organized fashion. Put together a Mac >> SIG that focuses on getting the best experience on the hardware. Send >> some

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 17 November 2016 at 09:08, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> On 11 November 2016 at 03:20, Andreas Tunek wrote: >> > >> > >> > As a mac owner (although one that is not very well supported by >> > Linux*) I really appreciate the fact that Fedora works. And saying you >

Fedora 25 compose report: 20161117.n.0 changes

2016-11-17 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-25-20161116.n.0 NEW: Fedora-25-20161117.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 0 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0.00 B Size of dropped packages:0.00 B Size of

Re: Fedora on Macs, removing the release criterion

2016-11-17 Thread Bastien Nocera
- Original Message - > On 11 November 2016 at 03:20, Andreas Tunek wrote: > > > > > > As a mac owner (although one that is not very well supported by > > Linux*) I really appreciate the fact that Fedora works. And saying you > > do not want to support that hardware anymore just because y