Re: How attached are we to branch ACLs? -- Should we kill pkgdb?

2017-03-24 Thread Patrick マルタインアンドレアス Uiterwijk
> As I already mentioned in person when this came up in a DevConf talk, I > think that this is a plan that will likely break a lot of things, especially > the expectations all our users rely on (that everything in Everything has a > consistent guaranteed life time), and that doing away with that

Re: How attached are we to branch ACLs? -- Should we kill pkgdb?

2017-03-24 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 01:45:12AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Of course, EPEL vs Fedora comes to mind here, but I wonder: if the EPEL > > maintainer has also commit on the Fedora branches, is it really that much > > of a big deal? And vice-versa? > > Well, I don't w

Re: How attached are we to branch ACLs? -- Should we kill pkgdb?

2017-03-24 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 01:45:12AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Of course, EPEL vs Fedora comes to mind here, but I wonder: if the EPEL > > maintainer has also commit on the Fedora branches, is it really that much > > of a big deal? And vice-versa? > > Well, I don't w

Re: How attached are we to branch ACLs? -- Should we kill pkgdb?

2017-03-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/25/2017 01:45 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Of course, EPEL vs Fedora comes to mind here, but I wonder: if the EPEL maintainer has also commit on the Fedora branches, is it really that much of a big deal? And vice-versa? Well, I don't want to get the EPEL bugs assigne

Re: How attached are we to branch ACLs? -- Should we kill pkgdb?

2017-03-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Of course, EPEL vs Fedora comes to mind here, but I wonder: if the EPEL > maintainer has also commit on the Fedora branches, is it really that much > of a big deal? And vice-versa? Well, I don't want to get the EPEL bugs assigned to me. > PS2: I am also considering thi

Re: How attached are we to branch ACLs? -- Should we kill pkgdb?

2017-03-24 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 02:34:42PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > "PC" == Pierre-Yves Chibon writes: > > PC> So, does per-branch ACLs make sense to you? Have you had cases where > PC> you thought it was good/bad? More importantly, have you had cases > PC> where you would want to give

Fedora 26-20170324.n.0 compose check report

2017-03-24 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Server dvd i386 Server boot i386 Failed openQA tests: 12/108 (x86_64), 1/2 (i386), 1/2 (arm) ID: 70218 Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/70218 ID: 70230 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_realmd_join

Re: How attached are we to branch ACLs? -- Should we kill pkgdb?

2017-03-24 Thread Randy Barlow
On Fri, 2017-03-24 at 15:37 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > Oh good — this was going to be my comment… having different main > contacts and package admins might be. Oh good — this was going to be my comment ☺ I do like and use the ability to have bug reports for different branches go to different

Re: automated packaging

2017-03-24 Thread Randy Barlow
On Fri, 2017-03-24 at 13:38 +, Petr Pisar wrote: > third-party == from different host (bodhi.fedoraproject.org. != > taskotron.fedoraproject.org.). The JavaScript that loads the taskotron results from resultsdb is in Bodhi, not taskotron: https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/blob/2.4.0/bodhi

Fedora Rawhide-20170324.n.0 compose check report

2017-03-24 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 16/107 (x86_64), 3/18 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20170323.n.0): ID: 70097 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/70097 ID: 70098 Tes

Re: Stuck maxima builds on aarch64

2017-03-24 Thread Jeffrey Bastian
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:35:55AM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote: > Hi, > > On 03/21/2017 07:33 AM, Jerry James wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Jerry James wrote: > > > I'm really not sure what to check next. If an aarch64 box for > > > packagers will be available in the not too distant

Re: How attached are we to branch ACLs? -- Should we kill pkgdb?

2017-03-24 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
I also wanted to add that a small bit of ACL flexibility is a very small cost if we gain what Pagure offers. Easy personal package forks. Pull requests for packages. I'd give up more than per-branch ACLs for that, certainly. - J< ___ devel mailing li

Re: How attached are we to branch ACLs? -- Should we kill pkgdb?

2017-03-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 07:37:59PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > PS2: I am also considering this question having in mind the change in > branching model the modularity work will bring (ie: branch no longer > tied to a Fedora version but rather to upstream's version) Oh good — this was going t

Re: How attached are we to branch ACLs? -- Should we kill pkgdb?

2017-03-24 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "PC" == Pierre-Yves Chibon writes: PC> So, does per-branch ACLs make sense to you? Have you had cases where PC> you thought it was good/bad? More importantly, have you had cases PC> where you would want to give someone access to just one branch and PC> really really do *not* want them to ha

How attached are we to branch ACLs? -- Should we kill pkgdb?

2017-03-24 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
Hi everyone, As I am working on bringing pagure as a front-end to our dist-git, a question is troubling me. Currently ACLs are stored in pkgdb, it allows having a per-branch ACL model, which in itself is quite cool, but I wonder: is it that useful? I know pkgdb brings us other things too and I a

Re: PSA - Kontact is royally screwed up

2017-03-24 Thread Steve Grubb
On Friday, March 24, 2017 10:08:05 AM EDT Rex Dieter wrote: > Steve Grubb wrote: > > On Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:15:30 PM EDT Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Steve Grubb wrote: > >> > you have to reboot your system because it dies holding a video driver > >> > mutex > >> > >> If you happen to be using

Self Introduction: Travis Kendrick

2017-03-24 Thread Pouar
Hi, I'm Travis (aka Pouar in the Furry Fandom) and I'm hoping to become a package co-maintainer (assuming there are any packages needing one, not sure where to find them so I might need help). If not there are a few packages I could probably submit, but I'm not exactly available 24/7 atm. I've been

Orphaning freemarker

2017-03-24 Thread Omair Majid
Hi, I am no longer able to devote any time to maintain freemarker. I am orphaning it. I believe it is a dependency for the following packages. bval-0:1.1.1-3.fc26.src bval-json-0:1.1.1-3.fc26.noarch cookcc-0:0.3.3-15.fc26.noarch cookcc-0:0.3.3-15.fc26.src eclipse-cdt-1:9.2.0-4.fc26.src eclipse-cd

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2017-03-24)

2017-03-24 Thread Dennis Gilmore
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2017-03-24) === Meeting started by dgilmore at 16:00:55 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-03-24/fesco.2017- 03-24-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: How risky is lm_sensors's sensors-detect nowadays?

2017-03-24 Thread John Reiser
On 03/23/2017 08:43 PM, Andrew Toskin wrote: ... Does anyone here know the risk factors [of running sensors-detect], and how much risk there really is today ... My experience is that sensors[-detect] works best for an Intel x86* CPU with 100% PCI/PCI-e cards, and for some older AMD x86* PCI/PCI

Re: Understanding the Fedora Modularity initiative (video + slides)

2017-03-24 Thread nicolas . mailhot
> so your argument is that Solaris created IPS because they wanted to > steal a rpm of ksh93? I'm not here to argue one way or another. It is well documented that at IPS creation time, Solaris userspace was in a terrible state, both terribly incomplete and (for the bits that were present) in va

Re: Understanding the Fedora Modularity initiative (video + slides)

2017-03-24 Thread Michael Stahl
On 24.03.2017 13:34, nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: >> Why would Solaris switch to rpm, when they already had SysV >> packages at the time, which are pretty much equivalent in >> functionality? > > Solaris at the time had degenerated into a barebones system, they > needed to find a way to impo

Re: How risky is lm_sensors's sensors-detect nowadays?

2017-03-24 Thread Jeffrey Bastian
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 03:43:09AM -, Andrew Toskin wrote: > I've used both Freon and lm_sensors without blowing up my computer, > and it since `sensors-detect` is mandatory for Freon to work, it seems > like it should be included in a %post scriptlet. But I don't want to > damage unsuspecting

Re: Fwd: Broken dependencies: boost

2017-03-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 12:42:10PM +, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On 15/03/17 18:31 +, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > >Does anybody know why I'd have got this today? I think you should file a bug against rpm-mpi-hooks. rpm-mpi-hooks was installed in the mock root for the last boost build. Not sure

Re: PSA - Kontact is royally screwed up

2017-03-24 Thread Rex Dieter
Steve Grubb wrote: > On Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:15:30 PM EDT Rex Dieter wrote: >> Steve Grubb wrote: >> > you have to reboot your system because it dies holding a video driver >> > mutex >> >> If you happen to be using nouveau, I may be able to help with a >> workaround to use software rend

Re: automated packaging

2017-03-24 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2017-03-24, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 09:11:22AM +, Petr Pisar wrote: >> > It would be under the "Automated Test Results", >> >> So this the stuff loaded by a third-party javascript code that I have >> disabled. That explains why I wasn't able to see it anywhere. > >

Re: automated packaging

2017-03-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 09:11:22AM +, Petr Pisar wrote: > > It would be under the "Automated Test Results", > > So this the stuff loaded by a third-party javascript code that I have > disabled. That explains why I wasn't able to see it anywhere. I don't think we use any "third-party" javascri

Re: Fedora 26 Alpha status is NO-GO

2017-03-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 08:00:35PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > Due to blockers found during the last days [1] we have decided to > delay the Fedora 26 Alpha release for one more week. There is going to Of particular note, this does *not* automatically delay the F27 release. That means that with the

Re: Fwd: Broken dependencies: boost

2017-03-24 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 15/03/17 18:31 +, Jonathan Wakely wrote: Does anybody know why I'd have got this today? The only recent change to Boost is to enabled the MPI packages on ppc64le, but that shouldn't have affected all arches: --- a/boost.spec +++ b/boost.spec @@ -7,11 +7,8 @@ %global boost_docdir __tmp_d

Re: Understanding the Fedora Modularity initiative (video + slides)

2017-03-24 Thread nicolas . mailhot
> Why would Solaris switch to rpm, when they already had SysV packages at > the time, which are pretty much equivalent in functionality? Solaris at the time had degenerated into a barebones system, they needed to find a way to import all the stuff packaged by Linux distros of repackage thousand

Re: Self Introduction: Simon Fels

2017-03-24 Thread Charalampos Stratakis
Hello and welcome to the community Simon! Charalampos Stratakis Associate Software Engineer Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat - Original Message - From: "Simon Fels" To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:20:50 PM Subject: Self Introduction: Simon Fels Hey ever

Self Introduction: Simon Fels

2017-03-24 Thread Simon Fels
Hey everybody, My name is Simon Fels. I am now working with open-source for quite some time, both in my personal and work time. I am currently mostly interested in bringing snaps (https://snapcraft.io) to Fedora and will help Neal Gompa to work on the relevant snapd package and will also help to

Enabling support for TLS 1.3 in NSS (not yet by default)

2017-03-24 Thread Kai Engert
TL;DR: If you are packaging software that uses NSS, please test if it works correctly, if TLS 1.3 support is enabled. COPR packages are available. Although still in draft status, the development of the new TLS 1.3 protocol version is making progress. The upstream Mozilla NSS library already supp

Re: DNF package upgrade availability/discovery blocked by versionlocks

2017-03-24 Thread Honza Silhan
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > Michael Mraka composed on 2017-03-24 08:54 (UTC+0100): > >> Felix Miata: > > >>> [mc-4.8.18 has been broken since release, so I locked 4.8.17] > > ... >>> >>> How is one expected to discover via dnf when (18 day old) 4.8.19 >>> finally becomes

Re: Understanding the Fedora Modularity initiative (video + slides)

2017-03-24 Thread Michael Stahl
On 24.03.2017 10:35, nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: > Hi, > > IPS is a tweak on rpm. I suspect a mostly overengineered one, SUN had > massive ego problems and looked down on Linux systems. So they could > not just adopt rpm, they had to change it sufficiently to one up > Linux peasants (many o

Re: DNF package upgrade availability/discovery blocked by versionlocks

2017-03-24 Thread Felix Miata
Michael Mraka composed on 2017-03-24 08:54 (UTC+0100): Felix Miata: [mc-4.8.18 has been broken since release, so I locked 4.8.17] ... How is one expected to discover via dnf when (18 day old) 4.8.19 finally becomes available and time to delete the lock has arrived? Is this a bug in the vers

Re: Understanding the Fedora Modularity initiative (video + slides)

2017-03-24 Thread nicolas . mailhot
Hi, IPS is a tweak on rpm. I suspect a mostly overengineered one, SUN had massive ego problems and looked down on Linux systems. So they could not just adopt rpm, they had to change it sufficiently to one up Linux peasants (many of the original IP packages are based on an import of Fedora rpm s

Re: automated packaging

2017-03-24 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2017-03-24, Dan Horák wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:10:47 + (UTC) > Petr Pisar wrote: > >> On 2017-03-23, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> > On Thu, 2017-03-23 at 06:32 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> >> That's not true, there are ABI checks in the sidebar on koji. >> > >> > Sorry, in the

Re: automated packaging

2017-03-24 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Thu, 2017-03-23 at 09:54 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2017-03-23 at 09:20 +0100, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > > > > > FWIW, I would be *extremely* reluctant to use something that big > > > that's > > > a) written in shell script (ugh) and b) has no tests. > > > > How did you fig

Re: automated packaging

2017-03-24 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Fri, 2017-03-24 at 08:27 +0100, Dan Horák wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:10:47 + (UTC) > Petr Pisar wrote: > > > On 2017-03-23, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > On Thu, 2017-03-23 at 06:32 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > > That's not true, there are ABI checks in the sidebar on koji.

Re: DNF package upgrade availability/discovery blocked by versionlocks

2017-03-24 Thread Michael Mraka
Felix Miata: > [mc-4.8.18 has been broken since release, so I locked 4.8.17] > > # grep RETT /etc/os-release > PRETTY_NAME="Fedora 26 (Twenty Six)" > # dnf versionlock list > Last metadata expiration check: 1:33:30 ago on Thu Mar 23 16:44:17 2017 EDT. > mc-1:4.8.17-2.fc25.* > # dnf list mc > Last

F27 Self Contained Change: Replace Yumex-DNF with dnfdragora

2017-03-24 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Replace Yumex-DNF with dnfdragora = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_yumex-dnf_with_dnfdragora Change owner(s): * Björn Esser * Christian Dersch Replace the current alternative graphical package manager. == Detailed Description == Yumex-DNF need

Re: automated packaging

2017-03-24 Thread Dan Horák
On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:10:47 + (UTC) Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2017-03-23, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-03-23 at 06:32 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > >> That's not true, there are ABI checks in the sidebar on koji. > > > > Sorry, in the sidebar in *Bodhi*. > > Could you be more

Re: automated packaging

2017-03-24 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2017-03-23, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Thu, 2017-03-23 at 06:32 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> That's not true, there are ABI checks in the sidebar on koji. > > Sorry, in the sidebar in *Bodhi*. Could you be more specific (URL or so)? I cannot find it on Bodhi web site. -- Petr ___