Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

2018-05-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 2 May 2018 at 18:49, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: >> On 5/2/18 7:15 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: >>> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:36 AM Marius Vollmer >>> wrote: >>> Neal Gompa writes: >>> > And there's still the fun restriction of XFS not being abl

Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

2018-05-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: > On 5/2/18 7:15 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:36 AM Marius Vollmer >> wrote: >> >>> Neal Gompa writes: >> And there's still the fun restriction of XFS not being able to shrink. >> >>> But note that even ext4 can't shri

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Iain Rae
On 02/05/18 18:05, Kamil Dudka wrote: > On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:34:51 PM CEST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >> This leads to the problem outlined in >> https://xkcd.com/1200/ where the user account is more precious than >> having root. > Wait. If you have full root access, you have automati

Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

2018-05-02 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: > On 5/2/18 7:15 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:36 AM Marius Vollmer >> wrote: >> >>> Neal Gompa writes: >> And there's still the fun restriction of XFS not being able to shrink. >> >>> But note that even ext4 can't shri

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Iain Rae
On 02/05/18 17:50, Kamil Dudka wrote: > On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:25:58 PM CEST Iain Rae wrote: >> if they've got sudo privs to install software in the system area as root >> then any malicious program is going to emulate su/sudo in which case >> you're rooted in both scenarios. > In order to

Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2018-05-04)

2018-05-02 Thread Randy Barlow
The following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2018-05-04 15:00 UTC' Links to all issues belo

Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

2018-05-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Martin Kolman wrote: > On Mon, 2018-04-30 at 18:16 +, Neal Gompa wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:14 PM Jason L Tibbitts III >> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > "CW" == Colin Walters writes: >> > CW> I'd say it makes sense to revisit the default here globally in >>

Fedora Rawhide-20180502.n.0 compose check report

2018-05-02 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 42/137 (x86_64), 14/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) ID: 232625 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso support_server URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/232625 ID: 232631 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_domain_controller URL: https://ope

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2018-05-03 16:00 UTC)

2018-05-02 Thread James Antill
 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2018-05-03 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net.  Local time information (via. uitime): = Day: Thursday == 2018-05-03 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2018-05-03

Fwd: Tomcat Package Major Version Update

2018-05-02 Thread Coty Sutherland
Hi all, This is a day late, but the tomcat package provided by rawhide has been updated to Tomcat 9.0! This may break some package dependencies because the servlet API package changed (new version). Sorry that I didn't provide a heads up. I have been working with the FreeIPA folks because they had

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-05-02 Thread Sheogorath
On 05/02/2018 07:18 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 04:04:11PM +0100, Naheem Zaffar wrote: >> Looking at Nextcloud releases, it seems that they do a major release once a >> year. >> >> It should be possible to catch up with the upstream even if there is a >> single update per Fedo

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 02.05.18 17:44, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mail...@laposte.net) wrote: > Le 2018-05-02 16:53, Paul Wouters a écrit : > > > So I don't think your "User explicitly installed SW into his home > > directory" is true, and it is especially not true if software can > > make use of knowing ~/.bin wi

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-05-02 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 04:04:11PM +0100, Naheem Zaffar wrote: > Looking at Nextcloud releases, it seems that they do a major release once a > year. > > It should be possible to catch up with the upstream even if there is a > single update per Fedora release. > > Update to Nextcloud 11 in Fedora

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:34:51 PM CEST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > The issue is where they do not know they have installed software to > their home directory. Sure but still better than if they did not know they had installed software outside of their home directory, at least from perspectiv

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:25:58 PM CEST Iain Rae wrote: > if they've got sudo privs to install software in the system area as root > then any malicious program is going to emulate su/sudo in which case > you're rooted in both scenarios. In order to emulate su/sudo, the binary needs to have spe

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 12:22:48PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 2 May 2018, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > I presume you mean "~/.local" rather than "~/local"? > > I don't. As my argument goes, hidden directories containing binaries > in your path are a bad idea. And it was a bad idea 15

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 2 May 2018, Lennart Poettering wrote: I presume you mean "~/.local" rather than "~/local"? I don't. As my argument goes, hidden directories containing binaries in your path are a bad idea. And it was a bad idea 15 years ago. Note that my home directory seems to only contain ~/.local/sh

Re: Serious problem with SATA LPM in F28 on Lenovo 50 series laptops

2018-05-02 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
Hans, can't this be affected also by different disk vendors (drive vendor in Lenovo laptop can vary even in same model) and different firmware of disks? Also, drive FW is upgradeable in Lenovo laptops. On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:39 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > > On 05/01/2018 10:40 AM, Loren

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20180502.n.0 changes

2018-05-02 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20180430.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20180502.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 33 Dropped packages:8 Upgraded packages: 178 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 15.51 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2018-05-02 16:53, Paul Wouters a écrit : So I don't think your "User explicitly installed SW into his home directory" is true, and it is especially not true if software can make use of knowing ~/.bin will be there for it to quietly drop some things in. The XDG spec and its insistence on med

Re: Serious problem with SATA LPM in F28 on Lenovo 50 series laptops

2018-05-02 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 05/02/2018 04:33 PM, Christian Dersch wrote: On 29/04/18 17:34, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 29-04-18 11:09, Christian Dersch wrote: I managed to install F28 (fresh install of KDE spin) on the second disc of my T450s. I cannot reproduce the issue by changing screen brightness there wit

Re: Serious problem with SATA LPM in F28 on Lenovo 50 series laptops

2018-05-02 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 05/01/2018 10:40 AM, Lorenzo Dalrio wrote: Hi, i run fedora 28 on a t450 since it was promoted to beta working with it 8-10 hours per day without any issue. System Information Manufacturer: LENOVO Product Name: 20BUS003IX Version: ThinkPad T450 # cat /sys/c

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 2.5.2018 v 16:57 Siteshwar Vashisht napsal(a): > > - Original Message - >> From: "Vít Ondruch" >> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:46:12 PM >> Subject: Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH >> >> >> >> Dne 2.5.2018 v 16:35 Siteshwa

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 02.05.18 10:47, Paul Wouters (p...@nohats.ca) wrote: > On Wed, 2 May 2018, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > > It's already there. And it is XDG complaint. The question here is about > > > > order (what takes priority). > > > > > > Can you point me to the XDG specification that requires i

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 11:10:05AM -0400, Siteshwar Vashisht wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > > > Cc: "Kamil Dudka" > > Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:49:18 PM > > Subject: Re: Prioritizing ~/.loca

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Tomas Orsava
On 05/02/2018 03:23 PM, Tomas Orsava wrote: Hi! I'd like to propose putting the ~/.local/bin in front of the /usr/bin on the PATH. Currently /usr/bin has priority over ~/.local/bin, which causes a [bug] where the old system-installed executable written in Python (from /usr/bin) is launched,

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Siteshwar Vashisht
- Original Message - > From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Kamil Dudka" > Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:49:18 PM > Subject: Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH > > On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 10:35:28AM -0400, Siteshw

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-05-02 Thread Naheem Zaffar
Looking at Nextcloud releases, it seems that they do a major release once a year. It should be possible to catch up with the upstream even if there is a single update per Fedora release. Update to Nextcloud 11 in Fedora 27, 12 in current Fedora 28 and then in Fedora 29 cath up with upstream. Adm

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-05-02 Thread Benson Muite
On 05/02/2018 05:52 PM, James Hogarth wrote: On 2 May 2018 at 12:11, Marek Greško wrote: Randy, it is the same with nextcloud. To keep people up to date ... I figured I'd do owncloud first as that looked a simple single version jump ... There was much pain that ensued trying to maintain

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Siteshwar Vashisht
- Original Message - > From: "Vít Ondruch" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:46:12 PM > Subject: Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH > > > > Dne 2.5.2018 v 16:35 Siteshwar Vashisht napsal(a): > > > > - Original Message - >

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 2 May 2018 at 10:47, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 2 May 2018, Lennart Poettering wrote: > It's already there. And it is XDG complaint. The question here is about order (what takes priority). >>> >>> >>> Can you point me to the XDG specification that requires it ? It was >>> mentioned

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 2 May 2018, Vít Ondruch wrote: User explicitly installed SW into his home directory. Why (s)he needs to override the $PATH in addition to make the SW work? Can you account for all your ~/.??* entries in your home dir? I have several of which I have no clue what it is or why it got ther

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-05-02 Thread James Hogarth
On 2 May 2018 at 12:11, Marek Greško wrote: > Randy, it is the same with nextcloud. > To keep people up to date ... I figured I'd do owncloud first as that looked a simple single version jump ... There was much pain that ensued trying to maintain the unbundling of the PHP libraries as upstream

Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

2018-05-02 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 05/02/2018 08:56 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: Given that it is exception activity, dump/mks/restore is also a less convenient but more robust solution to the problem. I'm sitting in a hotel room with a laptop. What do I backup *to*? If you're putting your years-old root or home filesystem at r

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 10:35:28AM -0400, Siteshwar Vashisht wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Tomas Orsava" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > , "David Kaspar" , > > "Kamil Dudka" , "Miro Hrončok" , > > "Petr Viktorin" , > > "Siteshwar Vashisht" > > Se

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 2 May 2018, Lennart Poettering wrote: It's already there. And it is XDG complaint. The question here is about order (what takes priority). Can you point me to the XDG specification that requires it ? It was mentioned by Lenart on the bug, but he later clarified his comment[1]. So th

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 2.5.2018 v 16:35 Siteshwar Vashisht napsal(a): > > - Original Message - >> From: "Tomas Orsava" >> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" >> , "David Kaspar" , >> "Kamil Dudka" , "Miro Hrončok" , >> "Petr Viktorin" , >> "Siteshwar Vashisht" >> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Siteshwar Vashisht
- Original Message - > From: "Tomas Orsava" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , "David Kaspar" , > "Kamil Dudka" , "Miro Hrončok" , > "Petr Viktorin" , > "Siteshwar Vashisht" > Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 3:23:10 PM > Subject: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 2 May 2018 at 10:08, Kamil Dudka wrote: > On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 3:46:34 PM CEST Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 6:44 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: >> > On 2.5.2018 15:30, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> > > Does anyone see a reason not to prioritize ~/.local/bin over >> > >> >

Re: Serious problem with SATA LPM in F28 on Lenovo 50 series laptops

2018-05-02 Thread Christian Dersch
On 29/04/18 17:34, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 29-04-18 11:09, Christian Dersch wrote: I managed to install F28 (fresh install of KDE spin) on the second disc of my T450s. I cannot reproduce the issue by changing screen brightness there with min_power and also the med_power_with_dipm default.

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 02.05.18 09:53, Siteshwar Vashisht (svashi...@redhat.com) wrote: > > On 2.5.2018 15:39, Panu Matilainen wrote> Not quite what you're asking, > > but actually not having a hidden directory > > > as a part of default PATH in the first place seems like a rather good > > > idea to me... > > >

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Iain Rae
On Wed, 2 May 2018, Kamil Dudka wrote: On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 3:46:34 PM CEST Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 6:44 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: On 2.5.2018 15:30, Stephen Gallagher wrote: Does anyone see a reason not to prioritize ~/.local/bin over You have two choice

Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

2018-05-02 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2018-05-02 15:25, Eric Sandeen a écrit : On 5/2/18 7:15 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: But it can shrink when it's not. This is incredibly important for being able to deal with resizing both / and /home at the same time, or even trying to make space for multi-booting (typically with Windows but so

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 3:46:34 PM CEST Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 6:44 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 2.5.2018 15:30, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > Does anyone see a reason not to prioritize ~/.local/bin over > > > > /usr/bin? > > > > > Yes, if a user's account is c

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 09:53:48AM -0400, Siteshwar Vashisht wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Miro Hrončok" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > , "Panu Matilainen" > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 3:45:55 PM > > Subject: Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 2.5.2018 15:53, Siteshwar Vashisht wrote: - Original Message - From: "Miro Hrončok" To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" , "Panu Matilainen" Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 3:45:55 PM Subject: Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH On 2.5.2018 15:39, Pan

Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

2018-05-02 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 5/2/18 8:42 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote: > On 05/02/2018 08:25 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: >> I've always seen the need for shrink as an indicator that someone had >> poor planning along the way, or insufficient tools for provisioning to >> start with.  Sure, there are exceptions, but in general who needs

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Siteshwar Vashisht
- Original Message - > From: "Miro Hrončok" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , "Panu Matilainen" > > Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 3:45:55 PM > Subject: Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH > > On 2.5.2018 15:39, Panu Matilainen wrote> Not quite wh

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 01:46:34PM +, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 6:44 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > On 2.5.2018 15:30, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > Does anyone see a reason not to prioritize ~/.local/bin over > > /usr/bin? > > > > > > > > > Yes, if a user's account

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 6:44 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 2.5.2018 15:30, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Does anyone see a reason not to prioritize ~/.local/bin over > /usr/bin? > > > > > > Yes, if a user's account is compromised (or any service running as > > them), it's REALLY easy to drop fake

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 2.5.2018 15:39, Panu Matilainen wrote> Not quite what you're asking, but actually not having a hidden directory as a part of default PATH in the first place seems like a rather good idea to me... It's already there. And it is XDG complaint. The question here is about order (what takes prior

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 2.5.2018 15:30, Stephen Gallagher wrote: Does anyone see a reason not to prioritize ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin? Yes, if a user's account is compromised (or any service running as them), it's REALLY easy to drop faked tools into a user-private directory and override critical system tool

Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

2018-05-02 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 05/02/2018 08:25 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: I've always seen the need for shrink as an indicator that someone had poor planning along the way, or insufficient tools for provisioning to start with. Sure, there are exceptions, but in general who needs shrink on a regular basis? The point isn't s

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 05/02/2018 04:23 PM, Tomas Orsava wrote: Hi! I'd like to propose putting the ~/.local/bin in front of the /usr/bin on the PATH. Currently /usr/bin has priority over ~/.local/bin, which causes a [bug] where the old system-installed executable written in Python (from /usr/bin) is launched,

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Tomas Orsava
On 05/02/2018 03:23 PM, Tomas Orsava wrote: Hi! I'd like to propose putting the ~/.local/bin in front of the /usr/bin on the PATH. Currently /usr/bin has priority over ~/.local/bin, which causes a [bug] where the old system-installed executable written in Python (from /usr/bin) is launched,

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Tomas Orsava
On 05/02/2018 03:30 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 6:24 AM Tomas Orsava > wrote: Hi! I'd like to propose putting the ~/.local/bin in front of the /usr/bin on the PATH. Currently /usr/bin has priority over ~/.local/bin, which

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 6:24 AM Tomas Orsava wrote: > Hi! > I'd like to propose putting the ~/.local/bin in front of the /usr/bin on > the PATH. > > Currently /usr/bin has priority over ~/.local/bin, which causes a [bug] > where the old system-installed executable written in Python (from > /usr/bi

Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

2018-05-02 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 5/2/18 7:15 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:36 AM Marius Vollmer > wrote: > >> Neal Gompa writes: > >>> And there's still the fun restriction of XFS not being able to shrink. > >> But note that even ext4 can't shrink while being mounted. > > But it can shrink when it's not

Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-02 Thread Tomas Orsava
Hi! I'd like to propose putting the ~/.local/bin in front of the /usr/bin on the PATH. Currently /usr/bin has priority over ~/.local/bin, which causes a [bug] where the old system-installed executable written in Python (from /usr/bin) is launched, but it finds new Python sources (installed in

Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

2018-05-02 Thread Martin Kolman
On Mon, 2018-04-30 at 18:16 +, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:14 PM Jason L Tibbitts III > wrote: > > > > > > > > "CW" == Colin Walters writes: > > CW> I'd say it makes sense to revisit the default here globally in > > CW> Anaconda. > > Maybe. Have the issues which made XFS l

Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

2018-05-02 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:36 AM Marius Vollmer wrote: > Neal Gompa writes: > > And there's still the fun restriction of XFS not being able to shrink. > But note that even ext4 can't shrink while being mounted. But it can shrink when it's not. This is incredibly important for being able to deal

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-05-02 Thread Marek Greško
Randy, it is the same with nextcloud. Marek ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-05-02 Thread Marek Greško
I fully support such major version bumps during one fedora release. Maybe there could be prepared nextcloud 11 and nextcloud 12 packages in several weeks steps, not fully functional, just upgrading database to have consistent upgrade path to version 13 then. Since nextcloud 10 is not working any

Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

2018-05-02 Thread Marius Vollmer
Neal Gompa writes: > And there's still the fun restriction of XFS not being able to shrink. But note that even ext4 can't shrink while being mounted. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@li

Re: heads up: mock's fedora-29-x configs

2018-05-02 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 2.5.2018 10:05, Miroslav Suchý wrote: I just released new `mock-core-configs` and there is a new feature. ... This will give you a choice to target rawhide using "rawhide" string or using the number. Thank You! This is so much easier when scripting things. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +42077

Re: libicu upgrade to 61.1 with soname bump in rawhide/F29

2018-05-02 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 02/05/18 02:49 +0100, Pete Walter wrote: 01.05.2018, 19:05, "Jonathan Wakely" : On 26/04/18 19:49 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi, I'm upgrading libicu to 61.1 for rawhide, which as usual comes with a soname bump. I requested a side target f29-icu for the builds, I'll ask Pete Walter (who alre

Re: Fedora 28 is officially here! also available for secondary architectures

2018-05-02 Thread Peter Robinson
>> It's almost Mother's Day, and that means it's time for Fedora 28, >> which is officially released today. >> >> Congratulations to everyone who contributed to this amazingly >> smooth and polished release. You all are awesome. >> >> Read the official announcement at: >> >> * https://fedoramagazin

Fedora 28 is officially here! also available for secondary architectures

2018-05-02 Thread Normand
On 01/05/2018 16:00, Matthew Miller wrote: It's almost Mother's Day, and that means it's time for Fedora 28, which is officially released today. Congratulations to everyone who contributed to this amazingly smooth and polished release. You all are awesome. Read the official announcement at:

heads up: mock's fedora-29-x configs

2018-05-02 Thread Miroslav Suchý
I just released new `mock-core-configs` and there is a new feature. It contains: $ ls -l /etc/mock ... lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root mock26 May 2 09:13 fedora-29-aarch64.cfg -> fedora-rawhide-aarch64.cfg lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root mock25 May 2 09:13 fedora-29-armhfp.cfg -> fedora-rawhide-armhfp.cfg lrwx

Re: Fedora 28 is officially here!

2018-05-02 Thread Brian (bex) Exelbierd
On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 6:01 PM, John Dennis wrote: > On 05/01/2018 10:00 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> It's almost Mother's Day, and that means it's time for Fedora 28, >> which is officially released today. >> > > FWIW, there is a broken link to the install documentation. > > If you visit: > >