Dne 14. 11. 18 v 21:11 Ben Rosser napsal(a):
> Instead of working on a new "Fedora LTS" for this usage case,
> would time be better spent improving EPEL and CentOS for the
> desktop/laptop use case?
+1
Instead of building bigger kernel team, rel-engs, security team... we can focus
on CentOS Desk
Dne 16. 11. 18 v 0:54 Jason Tibbitts napsal(a):
>> "MM" == Matthew Miller writes:
> MM> Let's talk about something new and exciting.
>
> I assume that you mean "very much not new and about as exciting as the
> fifteenth viewing of an episode of the Joy of Painting".
>
> I know it's been a whi
Dne 16. 11. 18 v 10:38 Vít Ondruch napsal(a):
> Dne 16. 11. 18 v 0:54 Jason Tibbitts napsal(a):
>>> "MM" == Matthew Miller writes:
>> MM> How would we balance this with getting people new stuff fast as
>> MM> well?
>>
>> Wait, what? Certainly you're not suggesting trying to do an extended
>>
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 01:54, Jason Tibbitts wrote:
>
> My recollection is that meaningful discussion usually stopped at the
> kernel issue. At one point we had some basic agreement that people who
> cared were welcome to push to old branches of things to keep them going,
> but that was back when
Hi,
Realistically, the only thing that fits the interests of Fedora
packagers, the cadence and interdependencies of the projects Fedora
ships, is a form of rolling release.
We are not a Microsoft that can tell its software groups “from now on
you release with this cadence and support for this per
Le jeudi 15 novembre 2018 à 16:22 -0500, Matthew Miller a écrit :
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 10:45:26AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > He's proposing Debian-style source code forking into git repos and
> > having the build description merged into that source tree. It's
> > usually referred to as merge
Le vendredi 16 novembre 2018 à 11:37 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
> iable, and checking those in the installer)
>
> * that effectively means:
> * the only supported state is the current upgrade tip,
> * you have an N-era window where upgrades to the current tip are
> supported baring hardw
mcatanz...@gnome.org píše v Čt 15. 11. 2018 v 19:00 -0600:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
> > But there are some good cases for a longer lifecycle. For one
> > thing,
> > this has been a really big blocker for getting Fedora shipped on
> > hardware. Second, there are p
Hi,
I've updated xml-security-c from 1.7.3 to 2.0.2 in rawhide. This includes a
soname bump. I'm going to start rebuilds for affected packages shortly:
libdigidocpp
opensaml
xmltooling
Pete
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On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 05:54:59PM -0600, Jason Tibbitts wrote:
> MM> Let's talk about something new and exciting.
[...]
> I know it's been a while. Maybe it's been long enough that a
> significant number of the developers here don't remember it. I am
> pretty sure you were around, though, so I d
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 23:05:24 +0100
Miroslav Suchy wrote:
> Hi,
> I just released [1] new mock-core-config package which include new
> rhelbeta-8-* configs.
> This will allows you to build packages on top of RHEL 8 Beta. This is
> temporary config. I put them there so you can experiment with your
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Hello,
We got a suggestion about giving same acls of rpm when creating new module
dist-git which matches the rpm.
The plan is to give "main admin" permission to the requester of the new
module repo and then giving the same permissions as that of the maintainers
from its matching rpm repo.
I want
On 16. 11. 18 15:15, Mohan Boddu wrote:
Hello,
We got a suggestion about giving same acls of rpm when creating new
module dist-git which matches the rpm.
The plan is to give "main admin" permission to the requester of the new
module repo and then giving the same permissions as that of the
m
I worked with FPL Matthew Miller and our engineering manager Jim
Perrin, among others, to define the various problems we want to solve
in diversifying the Fedora lifecycle. We're seeking review and
feedback from community members. The most salient feedback will be
from those involved in the efforts
> "IU" == Iñaki Ucar writes:
IU> In this respect (the kernel), it's true that something changed
IU> compared to a decade ago: there was no LTS support upstream
IU> then. Now, there is.
That is not really true. 2.6.16 (the first kernel that I recall anyone
calling some equivalent of "LTS") w
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 9:21 AM Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 16. 11. 18 15:15, Mohan Boddu wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > We got a suggestion about giving same acls of rpm when creating new
> > module dist-git which matches the rpm.
> >
> > The plan is to give "main admin" permission to the requester of t
El vie., 16 nov. 2018 17:07, Jason L Tibbitts III
escribió:
> > "IU" == Iñaki Ucar writes:
>
> IU> In this respect (the kernel), it's true that something changed
> IU> compared to a decade ago: there was no LTS support upstream
> IU> then. Now, there is.
>
> That is not really true. 2.6.16
Gerald Henriksen wrote:
> I think the problem is that for a consumer / desktop oriented product
> - which we seem to be talking about given that this appears to be
> driven in part by the desire of hardware vendors - the RHEL/CentOS
> release cycle leads to problems for several years worth of hardw
> "IU" == Iñaki Ucar writes:
IU> AFAIK, that wasn't officially supported.
What does "official" actually mean, and what relevance does that have?
Adrian Bunk didn't maintain 2.6.16 in a way that's much different than
the current long term support kernels are supported. And even before
that,
I have setup a samba AD-DC server with BIND9_DLZ on a Fedora 29 server.
Samba is OK, all work fine when all services are started
The problem occur only when I stop and then start the server, If I
reboot, the problem do not occur.
When the server start after a stop, some services do not start and
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 06:25:20AM -, Anatoli Babenia wrote:
>
> The key word is "comps". There is a separate database which stores
> this information and is used by (some) installer software:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_and_edit_comps.xml_for_package_...
👍
https://fedo
When Fedora 29 was released, the Python Classroom Lab wasn't built.
The problem is now fixed:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=23847
However how do i build and release it, so it is listed on:
https://labs.fedoraproject.org/
And so that
https://labs.fedoraproject.org/
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:52 PM Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
>
> > "IU" == Iñaki Ucar writes:
>
> IU> AFAIK, that wasn't officially supported.
>
> What does "official" actually mean, and what relevance does that have?
> Adrian Bunk didn't maintain 2.6.16 in a way that's much different than
>
Does anybody know how to contact him?
The last activity dates 2010.
I didn't follow procedure fully yet, but I'm 99% sure that there will
be no reply in bugzilla.
But I'm starting it now: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1650661
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Hello,
I'm going to work on protobuf update which involves SONAME change from
.15 to .17.
I don't see any breakage from release notes, it is mostly about making
minimum c++ std to c++11 and cleanups.
I'll carefully check and if everything looks ok, I'll push it to
Rawhide next week and rebuild a
On 11/15/2018 3:54 PM, Jason Tibbitts wrote:
And to add in an additional argument that we didn't have a decade ago:
We're actually trying to evolve our packaging now. EPEL with it's "old
RPM never changes" restriction is bad enough but fortunately limited in
scope. Having years of Fedora relea
For reference, this is in reply to Paul's email about lifecycle
objectives, specifically focusing on problem statement #1[1].
Have rpm use zchunk as its compression format, removing the need for
deltarpms, and thus reducing compose time. This will require changes
to both the rpm format and new f
On 11/15/18 3:05 PM, Miroslav Suchy wrote:
> Hi,
> I just released [1] new mock-core-config package which include new
> rhelbeta-8-* configs.
> This will allows you to build packages on top of RHEL 8 Beta. This is
> temporary config. I put them there so you can experiment with your
> builds and pre
What's the plan with epel8 branching? I was fairly happy with needing to
request branches manually like with did with epel7. Are we going to use the
"epel8" name?
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On Fri, 2018-11-16 at 22:07 +, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> For reference, this is in reply to Paul's email about lifecycle
> objectives, specifically focusing on problem statement #1[1].
>
>
> Have rpm use zchunk as its compression format, removing the need for
> deltarpms, and thus reducing com
On 11/16/18 3:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-11-16 at 22:07 +, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
>> For reference, this is in reply to Paul's email about lifecycle
>> objectives, specifically focusing on problem statement #1[1].
>>
>>
>> Have rpm use zchunk as its compression format, remo
> "MM" == Matthew Miller writes:
MM> It's the fundamental contradiction that all operating systems face:
MM> users complain "too fast and too slow!" at the same time.
Well, then lengthening the Fedora lifecycle does not seem to me to be
the real solution. Instead, I think, it's to piggyback
Le vendredi 16 novembre 2018 à 13:02 -0800, Japheth Cleaver a écrit :
>
> I'm not sure why punting like this is a good thing. RPM is a
> standard,
> moving along at what one might expect a core component to do, but to
> the
> extent that "evolving our packaging" means doing things at odds with
>
On Fri, 2018-09-14 at 10:22 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> At yesterday's F29 Go/No-Go meeting, we discussed the blocker status
> of BZ #1628192 - Fedora 29 installation cannot see a firmware RAID
> device. While the blocker criteria clearly states that this should be
> a blocker for Beta, many
On Thu, 2018-09-20 at 08:33 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> There was a bug[1] filed recently that indicated that printing was
> broken on certain printers. As a result of that discussion, it became
> apparent that there was no criteria for printing to work at all, which
> seems like an oversight
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2018-11-19
# Time: ** 16:00 ** UTC
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# Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net
Greetings testers!
As many folks were missing last week, let's run the meeting again
with the desktop testing prop
> "NG" == Neal Gompa writes:
NG> Most of these fonts look like they are licensed appropriately, the
NG> only problem is the Ubuntu fonts, which have been noted to have a
NG> non-free license[3] (unless someone can get Canonical to fix it).
I had a look at the license at https://www.ubuntu.co
People,
I haven't seen any posts about this but is anyone else having problem
with audio after an upgrade? - it happens with both PulseAudio and with
just basic ALSA. I have a relatively simple setup:
*-multimedia
description: Audio device
product: 200 Serie
Try
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_PulseAudio_problems#Playback_problems.2C_crackling_or_skipping
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On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 08:01:48PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> > "NG" == Neal Gompa writes:
>
> NG> Most of these fonts look like they are licensed appropriately, the
> NG> only problem is the Ubuntu fonts, which have been noted to have a
> NG> non-free license[3] (unless someone can
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