On 11/19/2018 10:04 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
Centos also ships a lot of non-Red Hat kernels and modules which
meet various itches that people feel (xen, upstream lts, various
gluster/ceph/arm32/etc)
I wonder if something like this could make sense for Fedora as well, to
ship two kernel s
No missing expected images.
Failed openQA tests: 10/142 (x86_64), 2/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm)
New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20181118.n.0):
ID: 310311 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_sssd
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/310311
ID: 310314 Test: x86_64 Ser
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20181118.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20181119.n.0
= SUMMARY =
Added images:0
Dropped images: 3
Added packages: 28
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages: 186
Downgraded packages: 0
Size of added packages: 179.58 MiB
Size of dropped packages
On 2018-11-13 3:36 p.m., Matthew Miller wrote:
> > Hi everyone! Let's talk about something new and exciting. Since its >
first release fifteen years ago, Fedora has had a 13-month lifecycle >
(give or take). That works awesomely for many cases (like, hey, we're >
all here), but not for everyone. Le
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> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 at 10:07 PM
> From: "Jonathan Dieter"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Subject: Proposal: Faster composes by eliminating deltarpms and using
> zchunked rpms instead
>
> For reference, this is in reply to Paul's email about lifecycle
> obj
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On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 16:29 -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 21:02 +, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> > On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 15:18 -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > > I do not think you can just trust random metadata somewhere, one of the
> > > points of a rpm reinstall is to fix damaged
On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 22:18 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le lundi 19 novembre 2018 à 20:30 +, Jonathan Dieter a écrit :
> >
> > The zchunk advantage over deltarpms is much less CPU usage, while its
> > disadvantages are slightly larger network usage and increased disk
> > usage.
>
> Unfort
On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 22:18 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le lundi 19 novembre 2018 à 20:30 +, Jonathan Dieter a écrit :
> > The zchunk advantage over deltarpms is much less CPU usage, while its
> > disadvantages are slightly larger network usage and increased disk
> > usage.
>
> Unfortunate
On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 21:14 +, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 19/11/2018 20:30, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
>
> > On the client:
> > The zchunk advantage over regular rpm is decreased network usage, while
> > its disadvantage is increased disk usage (since the local chunks will
> > be uncompressed).
> >
>
On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 21:02 +, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 15:18 -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 19:58 +, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
>
>
> > > That's an interesting thought. I was picturing using the zchunk
> > > library in the dnf download stage to buil
Le lundi 19 novembre 2018 à 20:30 +, Jonathan Dieter a écrit :
>
> The zchunk advantage over deltarpms is much less CPU usage, while its
> disadvantages are slightly larger network usage and increased disk
> usage.
Unfortunately, that's a bad compromise for most limited clients. A
limited cli
On 19/11/2018 20:30, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
On the client:
The zchunk advantage over regular rpm is decreased network usage, while
its disadvantage is increased disk usage (since the local chunks will
be uncompressed).
The zchunk advantage over deltarpms is much less CPU usage, while its
disadv
Le lundi 19 novembre 2018 à 11:27 -0800, Japheth Cleaver a écrit :
> On 11/16/2018 3:19 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> >
> > Really, if there is one distro component we should backport to el
> > and
> > all release streams, that's rpm + all Fedora macro packages, not the
> > kernel.
>
> Well, that'
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 17:20, Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 5:08 PM Orion Poplawski wrote:
> >
> > On 11/18/18 2:29 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > > I'm not for or against a longer Fedora lifecycle, but I think we need
> > > a stronger statement of what the problem is we're try
On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 15:18 -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 19:58 +, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> > That's an interesting thought. I was picturing using the zchunk
> > library in the dnf download stage to build a local rpm from the
> > verified locally installed files and the dow
On Sun, 2018-11-18 at 13:19 -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 12:49, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 11:54 AM Jonathan Dieter > > wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2018-11-17 at 22:30 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > > Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> > > > > My proposal would
On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 19:58 +, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 20:16 +0100, Jan Pokorný wrote:
> > On 19/11/18 13:13 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > > Le 2018-11-19 12:28, Martin Kolman a écrit :
> > >
> > > > Many people might think RAM would not be an issue in 2018, but in
>
On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 20:16 +0100, Jan Pokorný wrote:
> On 19/11/18 13:13 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > Le 2018-11-19 12:28, Martin Kolman a écrit :
> >
> > > Many people might think RAM would not be an issue in 2018, but in
> > > practice there are
> > > and likely always will be memory const
On Sun, 2018-11-18 at 07:02 +, Leigh Scott wrote:
> +1 to anything to rid me of deltarpms, I currently have to disable
> this lame default.
The irony is that getting deltarpms into Fedora was largely my
fault. ;) Sorry, Leigh.
Jonathan
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On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 14:57 +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 16. 11. 18 v 23:07 Jonathan Dieter napsal(a):
> >1. Downloading a new release of a zchunked rpm would be larger than
> > downloading the equivalent deltarpm. This is offset by the fact
> > that the client is able to wor
On 11/16/2018 3:19 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le vendredi 16 novembre 2018 à 13:02 -0800, Japheth Cleaver a écrit :
I'm not sure why punting like this is a good thing. RPM is a
standard,
moving along at what one might expect a core component to do, but to
the
extent that "evolving our packaging"
On 19/11/18 13:13 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le 2018-11-19 12:28, Martin Kolman a écrit :
>
>> Many people might think RAM would not be an issue in 2018, but in
>> practice there are
>> and likely always will be memory constrained installation targets,
>> such as massive deployments
>> of "sm
On 16/11/2018 22:07, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
The uncompressed local chunks would be combined with the downloaded
compressed chunks to create a local rpm that will pass signature
verification without needing to recompress the uncompressed local
chunks, making this computationally much faster than
Hi,
I've orphaned two of my packages:
– hdapsd - https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/hdapsd
This is daemon for laptops with accelerometer. It detects computer
falling down and parks HDD head to reduce damage.
I haven't used a laptop with spinning drive for years, I'm not sure
if it still
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On 11/16/18 5:17 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
>> "MM" == Matthew Miller writes:
>
> MM> It's the fundamental contradiction that all operating systems face:
> MM> users complain "too fast and too slow!" at the same time.
>
> Well, then lengthening the Fedora lifecycle does not seem to me t
Robert-André Mauchin writes:
>> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/ueno/nss-consolidate/
> Could we also remove the old cruft?
Thank you! I have updated the PR based on the suggestions.
> - Consider using a URL for Source0:
>
> Source0: https://hg.mozilla.org/projects/nss/archi
Dne 16. 11. 18 v 23:45 Orion Poplawski napsal(a):
> On 11/15/18 3:05 PM, Miroslav Suchy wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I just released [1] new mock-core-config package which include new
>> rhelbeta-8-* configs.
>> This will allows you to build packages on top of RHEL 8 Beta. This is
>> temporary config. I put th
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Dne 16. 11. 18 v 23:07 Jonathan Dieter napsal(a):
>1. Downloading a new release of a zchunked rpm would be larger than
> downloading the equivalent deltarpm. This is offset by the fact
> that the client is able to work out which chunks it needs no matter
> what the original r
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On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 07:02:24AM -, Leigh Scott wrote:
> +1 to anything to rid me of deltarpms, I currently have to disable this lame
> default.
Leigh, it may be "lame" to you, but it's important to many people with
bandwidth limitations or slower connections. There's always room for
improv
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Le 2018-11-19 12:28, Martin Kolman a écrit :
Many people might think RAM would not be an issue in 2018, but in
practice there are
and likely always will be memory constrained installation targets,
such as massive deployments
of "small" VMs or the IoT use cases mentioned above.
Sure, that’s the
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On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 11:41 +0100, Sheogorath wrote:
> On 11/18/18 7:19 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 12:49, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 11:54 AM Jonathan Dieter
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2018-11-17 at 22:30 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > > >
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On 11/18/18 7:19 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 12:49, Neal Gompa wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 11:54 AM Jonathan Dieter wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 2018-11-17 at 22:30 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> My proposal would be to make zchunk the
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 06:21, Xavier Bachelot wrote:
Hi,
Now that RHEL 8 beta is out, is there any plan to have some sort of EPEL
8 beta for people willing to prepare for the real RHEL 8 in advance ?
Thanks Xavier,
I put out an email y
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caches: doesn't look so good. squid can't store chunks of a file.
For range request caching you probably want apache traffic server (ATS),
not squid, as cache layer.
The video guys implemented lots if range request magic in the cache tech
they
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On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 02:43:23PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Jonathan Dieter said:
> > The benefit of zchunked rpms is that, when downloading an updated rpm,
> > you would only need to download the chunks that have changed from
> > what's on your system.
>
> How well do web se
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