What about the caret versioning guidelines
[https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/908].
Fedora could really use this.
Zbyszek
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:44:28PM -0500, James Antill wrote:
> Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC
> meeting Thursday at 2020
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On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 12:08 PM Ian Pilcher wrote:
>
> Is $SUBJECT possible these days?
>
> I've tried with both --bootstrap-chroot and --use-bootstrap-image, but
> the build is failing with:
>
>ERROR: builddep command missing.
>Please install package dnf-plugins-core.
>
> This happens ev
On 1/15/20 8:33 PM, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote:
On 1/7/20 11:14 AM, Iñaki Ucar wrote:
I'm far from having a satisfactory response to that, but I see two
fronts here. First, marketing. How does Ubuntu managed to be so
popular among less-experienced Linux users? I'm not sure, but I
suspect
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC
meeting Thursday at 2020-01-16 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.
Local time information (via. uitime):
= Day: Thursday ==
2020-01-16 09:00 PST US/Pacific
2020-01-16
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:40 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 12:24:23 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> > Looks like PSI based oom killing doesn't work without swap. Therefore
> > oomd can't be considered a universal solution. Quite a lot of
> > developers have workstation
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 12:24:23 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> Looks like PSI based oom killing doesn't work without swap. Therefore
> oomd can't be considered a universal solution. Quite a lot of
> developers have workstations with quite a decent amount of RAM,
> ~64GiB, and do not use swap a
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 06:05:42PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> ### File types (and bytecode caches)
>
> The orthogonal dimension is the file type. Python standard library
> contains directories with both "extension modules" (written in C
> (usually) and compiled to `*.cpython-38-x86_64-linux-gnu.
> Solution 4: ZIP the entire standard library
> (...)
> Nevertheless, this might (in theory) **save 17.8 MiB / 47 %**.
It's my favorite option. Almost 50% smaller is quite good! It would be
very efficient to have such disk space gain!
Using a ZIP file for the stdlib is commonly suggested solution
On Wed, 2020-01-15 at 20:59 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 11:44:31AM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > > Also said in the e-mail, if you think those packages need to be exempted
> > > from
> > > the process, we can deal with that to, however there must be a valid
> > > reaso
On 1/15/20 1:26 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 12:08, Ian Pilcher wrote:
Is $SUBJECT possible these days?
I've tried with both --bootstrap-chroot and --use-bootstrap-image, but
the build is failing with:
ERROR: builddep command missing.
Please install package
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 11:44:31AM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
>
> > Also said in the e-mail, if you think those packages need to be exempted
> > from
> > the process, we can deal with that to, however there must be a valid
> > reason. I
> > don't think "the maintainer didn't actually maintain
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 12:08, Ian Pilcher wrote:
>
> Is $SUBJECT possible these days?
>
> I've tried with both --bootstrap-chroot and --use-bootstrap-image, but
> the build is failing with:
>
>ERROR: builddep command missing.
>Please install package dnf-plugins-core.
>
> This happens even
Wed, 15 Jan 2020 18:05:42 +0100
Miro Hrončok :
> Hello Fedora!
>
> In Python Maint, we sat down and we came up with several ideas how to
> minimize the filesystem footprint of Python. Unfortunately, the
> result is horribly long, sorry about that.
It was delightfull to read. I have some better u
On Tue, 2020-01-14 at 00:30 +0100, David Kaufmann wrote:
> The field for bodhi I usually copy from the changelog - but to be
> honest I only fill it, because it's there - I don't even really know
> what it is used for, except being shown on the update page.
Users can read the update text with the
On 1/15/20 12:56 PM, Chris wrote:
That's an amazing amount of work! My only criticism would be:
- the quest for reducing disk space is getting a bit over the top. I
mean to make comparisons to 3.5" floppy disks which haven't been
around for 20 years? Why is ~100MB so much? If you scale up from
That's an amazing amount of work! My only criticism would be:
- the quest for reducing disk space is getting a bit over the top. I mean
to make comparisons to 3.5" floppy disks which haven't been around for 20
years? Why is ~100MB so much? If you scale up from floppy disks and even
reference a 8GB
On 1/7/20 11:14 AM, Iñaki Ucar wrote:
I'm far from having a satisfactory response to that, but I see two
fronts here. First, marketing. How does Ubuntu managed to be so
popular among less-experienced Linux users? I'm not sure, but I
suspect that good marketing has something to do with it.
I can
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Hello Fedora!
In Python Maint, we sat down and we came up with several ideas how to minimize
the filesystem footprint of Python. Unfortunately, the result is horribly long,
sorry about that.
Please, share your feedback, additional solutions, comments etc.
Version with formatting and pictures
Is $SUBJECT possible these days?
I've tried with both --bootstrap-chroot and --use-bootstrap-image, but
the build is failing with:
ERROR: builddep command missing.
Please install package dnf-plugins-core.
This happens even when the dnf-plugins-core package is installed (from
EPEL) on the Ce
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 05:43:26PM +0100, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote:
...snip...
> --
> Note: The naming is hard here, and while I tend to call it
> “buildroot”, it actually needs to be called “alternative everything,
> except the srpms”.
>
> I think we shouldn’t use the word “variant”, “spin”
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:04 AM Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 à 15:52, Richard Shaw a
> écrit :
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 8:50 AM Nicolas Chauvet
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 à 15:36, Richard Shaw a
> écrit :
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > There is a mess between Coin3
Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 à 15:52, Richard Shaw a écrit :
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 8:50 AM Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
>>
>> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 à 15:36, Richard Shaw a écrit :
>> >
>> >
>> > There is a mess between Coin3 and Coin4 (and their dependencies) which I
>> > believe is causing most of th
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 8:50 AM Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 à 15:36, Richard Shaw a
> écrit :
> >
> >
> > There is a mess between Coin3 and Coin4 (and their dependencies) which I
> believe is causing most of the problems.
> >
> > Some background here:
> >
> https://lists.fedor
Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 à 15:36, Richard Shaw a écrit :
>
>
> There is a mess between Coin3 and Coin4 (and their dependencies) which I
> believe is causing most of the problems.
>
> Some background here:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/RMWY7KZIPW
There is a mess between Coin3 and Coin4 (and their dependencies) which I
believe is causing most of the problems.
Some background here:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/RMWY7KZIPWNOYPZE7ZOHEZGCN334T2BW/#RMWY7KZIPWNOYPZE7ZOHEZGCN334T2BW
The main Co
On 1/15/20 3:33 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 15. 01. 20 v 13:33 Panu Matilainen napsal(a):
On 1/15/20 2:13 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Dne 13. 01. 20 v 14:05 Vít Ondruch napsal(a):
%changelog
%include changelog
+1
As I pointed out in
https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/942, %
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 7:10 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>
> Dne 11. 01. 20 v 3:54 Neal Gompa napsal(a):
> > * %{dist}..
>
> -1
> Packages with commitish in release version are usually developers snapshot.
> We already have few packages with such release in Fedora, but I would dislike
> to make this
Dne 15. 01. 20 v 13:33 Panu Matilainen napsal(a):
> On 1/15/20 2:13 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>> Dne 13. 01. 20 v 14:05 Vít Ondruch napsal(a):
>>> %changelog
>>>
>>> %include changelog
>>
>> +1
>>
>
> As I pointed out in
> https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/942, %include is
> nasty
> * something else - is something blocking you from using Copr? Please share
> it with us.
Right now, getting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1572596 fixed
will unblock building java packages on CentOS Stream / EPEL 8.
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On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:04 AM Benson Muite wrote:
> Maybe am wrong about faces/fingerprints as passwords:
>
> https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2019/05/08/5
There was also the infamous "gummy fingerprint" article from 2002:
https://cryptome.org/gummy.htm
And the mythbusters tes
On 1/15/20 2:13 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Dne 13. 01. 20 v 14:05 Vít Ondruch napsal(a):
%changelog
%include changelog
+1
As I pointed out in
https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/942, %include is
nasty because it breaks the stand-alone attribute of specs. There are
umphteen
Dne 13. 01. 20 v 14:05 Vít Ondruch napsal(a):
> %changelog
>
> %include changelog
+1
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Dne 11. 01. 20 v 3:54 Neal Gompa napsal(a):
> * %{dist}..
-1
Packages with commitish in release version are usually developers snapshot.
We already have few packages with such release in Fedora, but I would dislike
to make this standard.
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 3:34 AM Nicolas Mailhot via devel
wrote:
> Just to be clear: the Fonts packaging guidelines that FPC has been
> reviewing since last year mandates the conversion and forbids the
> packaging of deprecated formats.
Yes. we need to take some steps to move forward on it. as we
> I think, and this is my personal opinion, that Ubuntu is so popular,
> because it is easy to use for everyone. You don't need to have much
> technical knowledge to use Ubuntu for most thinks that non technical
> user needs and it looks good.
>
> Every time I'm trying to use Fedora the same wa
I really like this proposal. I feel like it's something we needed for a
long time.
More comments inline!
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 5:45 PM Aleksandra Fedorova
wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> This topic goes along the lines of Matthew’s Operating System Factory
> discussion[1], but with a slightly different
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On Friday, January 10, 2020 6:37:11 AM MST Chris Adams wrote:
> AVX2 is not a reasonable requirement as a replacement for the current
> Fedora x86_64, as there are CPUs still being made today that don't
> support that.
Relevant lines from /proc/cpuinfo
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae
On Friday, January 10, 2020 8:09:18 AM MST Aleksandra Fedorova wrote:
> We are not proposing the new architecture. We are proposing a "staging
> environment" for the current architecture. Which can be used for
> experiments which currently can not be performed without disrupting
> the release and u
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