Re: Ditch RPM in favor of DPKG

2020-07-17 Thread Anthony F McInerney
On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 at 06:29, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Friday, July 17, 2020 10:20:54 PM MST Anthony F McInerney wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 at 04:19, John M. Harris Jr > > > > wrote: > > > On Thursday, July 16, 2020 3:11:19 AM MST Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > > > > there was no reason not

Re: Ditch RPM in favor of DPKG

2020-07-17 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Friday, July 17, 2020 10:20:54 PM MST Anthony F McInerney wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 at 04:19, John M. Harris Jr > > wrote: > > On Thursday, July 16, 2020 3:11:19 AM MST Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > > > there was no reason not to replac it with regular apt > > > > Nico touched on these alread

Re: Ditch RPM in favor of DPKG

2020-07-17 Thread Anthony F McInerney
On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 at 04:19, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Thursday, July 16, 2020 3:11:19 AM MST Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > > there was no reason not to replac it with regular apt > > Nico touched on these already, but that's simply not possible. Rather, > it's > possible, but would immediately

Re: Orphaning a number of Lua-related packages

2020-07-17 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:05:33 PM MST Tim Niemueller wrote: > Dear Fedora Community. > > Things have changed and I can no longer perform all maintainer duties. I > have just orphaned several packages. I have given packages which had a > co-maintainer to them (Thank you! Many already acted as

Re: Ditch RPM in favor of DPKG

2020-07-17 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, July 16, 2020 3:11:19 AM MST Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > there was no reason not to replac it with regular apt Nico touched on these already, but that's simply not possible. Rather, it's possible, but would immediately break your system upon installing software using apt. -- John M

Re: Btrfs in Silverblue

2020-07-17 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:39:01 AM MST Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Why at boot time? Well if your default subvolume contains a recent > > update that for some reason renders it unbootable, it might be nice to > > be able to pick a prior snapshot. That's how they do this. It isn't > > how we ha

Re: F33 Change proposal: Replace Linux kernel with BSD kernel

2020-07-17 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, July 16, 2020 2:37:55 PM MST Ben Cotton wrote: > > F33 Change proposal: Replace Linux kernel with BSD kernel - System-Wide Well, which BSD kernel? ;) This email just serves as a neat example of that potential new format for Change proposals. -- John M. Harris, Jr. __

Re: Enable EarlyOOM on Fedora KDE - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-07-17 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Friday, July 17, 2020 10:06:53 AM MST Benjamin Berg wrote: > On Fri, 2020-07-17 at 09:12 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:18:08 AM MST Benjamin Berg wrote: > > > So, we don't want to get the kernel into the situation where it must > > > remove executables/libraries

Re: How do Fedora developers get access to devtoolset for testing.

2020-07-17 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 7/17/20 3:03 PM, Steven Munroe wrote: So my project (pveclib) was requested for el7/8 which means building with devtoolset-9. With a spec file enabled for el7, the local rpmbuild's fail if you don't have devtoolset installed. The error message was less than helpful. So if you can use fedp

[Test-Announce] 2020-07-20 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 33 Blocker Review Meeting

2020-07-17 Thread Adam Williamson
# F33 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2020-07-20 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Hi folks! We have 5 proposed Beta blockers, 1 proposed Beta freeze exception and 2 proposed Final blockers to review, so let's have a Fedora 33 blocker review meeting on Monday!

[Test-Announce] 2020-07-20 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2020-07-17 Thread Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2020-07-20 # Time: 15:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! We didn't meet for a couple of weeks and some Big Changes (tm) are landing in Fedora 33 right now, so

Re: Koji oops

2020-07-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 02:25:32PM +0200, Dan Horák wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 15:15:00 +0300 > Евгений Пивнев wrote: > > > What’s wrong with koji? > > Yet another maintenance jobs that I missed? > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=47345974 > >

Re: Removing packages from module

2020-07-17 Thread Aleksei Bavshin
On 7/17/20 1:50 PM, Daniel Mach wrote: > > > Dne 17. 07. 20 v 14:15 Aleksei Bavshin napsal(a): >> On 7/17/20 3:27 AM, Daniel Mach wrote: >>> Dne 17. 07. 20 v 11:04 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): If the package was part of the module during the release of Fedora 32, dnf will see 2 versions/bu

How do Fedora developers get access to devtoolset for testing.

2020-07-17 Thread Steven Munroe
So my project (pveclib) was requested for el7/8 which means building with devtoolset-9. With a spec file enabled for el7, the local rpmbuild's fail if you don't have devtoolset installed. The error message was less than helpful. So if you can use fedpkg scratch-build devtoolset is preinstalled.

Re: Removing packages from module

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Mach
Dne 17. 07. 20 v 14:15 Aleksei Bavshin napsal(a): On 7/17/20 3:27 AM, Daniel Mach wrote: Dne 17. 07. 20 v 11:04 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): If the package was part of the module during the release of Fedora 32, dnf will see 2 versions/builds of the module-stream:   - the one that existed during

Re: Enable EarlyOOM on Fedora KDE - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-07-17 Thread Alexey A.
> And this will turn bad quickly, as it will eventually > include the executables/libraries that must be loaded as they are doing > work! > So, we don't want to get the kernel into the situation where it must > remove executables/libraries from main memory. If that happens, you can > end up hittin

Re: Enable EarlyOOM on Fedora KDE - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-07-17 Thread Benjamin Berg
On Fri, 2020-07-17 at 09:12 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:18:08 AM MST Benjamin Berg wrote: > > So, we don't want to get the kernel into the situation where it must > > remove executables/libraries from main memory. If that happens, you can > > end up hitting the dis

Re: Self Introduction Ludovic Hirlimann

2020-07-17 Thread Nasir Hussain
Welcome here Ludovic :) On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 7:14 PM Ludovic Hirlimann via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hi, > > > I'm ludo. I've been involved with opensource for a long time now (using > my first linux in 1996). I have been a mozilla employee for 10 years (as > the Thunderb

Re: Enable EarlyOOM on Fedora KDE - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

2020-07-17 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:18:08 AM MST Benjamin Berg wrote: > So, we don't want to get the kernel into the situation where it must > remove executables/libraries from main memory. If that happens, you can > end up hitting the disk for *every* function call. If this is true, then we shouldn't ena

Re: Upcoming Fedora 33 Change proposal deadlines

2020-07-17 Thread Jeremy Linton
Hi, On 7/17/20 9:07 AM, Ben Cotton wrote: This is the final reminder of the Fedora 33 Change proposal deadlines: * 2020-07-21: Proposal deadline for Self-Contained Changes The mass rebuild is scheduled to begin next week as well. For the full schedule, see https://fedorapeople.org/groups/s

Re: Self Introduction Ludovic Hirlimann

2020-07-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 04:14:19PM +0200, Ludovic Hirlimann via devel wrote: > I'm ludo. I've been involved with opensource for a long time now (using > my first linux in 1996). I have been a mozilla employee for 10 years (as > the Thunderbird QA lead and then as an IT staffer). I'm back to linux >

fedbot spamming in #fedora

2020-07-17 Thread Germano Massullo
Is it necessary to have in #fedora IRC channel, fedbot spamming 48 times per day about Fedora respins update? [16:51] *** F32-20200715 updated lives available: https://tinyurl.com/Live-respins2 Built by the Fedora Respin Sig more info #fedora-respins *** __

Self Introduction Ludovic Hirlimann

2020-07-17 Thread Ludovic Hirlimann via devel
Hi, I'm ludo. I've been involved with opensource for a long time now (using my first linux in 1996). I have been a mozilla employee for 10 years (as the Thunderbird QA lead and then as an IT staffer). I'm back to linux since 2015 (used FreeBSD and MacOSX since 2000). I choose Fedora as my distrib

Re: Upcoming Fedora 33 Change proposal deadlines

2020-07-17 Thread Ben Cotton
This is the final reminder of the Fedora 33 Change proposal deadlines: * 2020-07-21: Proposal deadline for Self-Contained Changes The mass rebuild is scheduled to begin next week as well. For the full schedule, see https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-33/f-33-key-tasks.html -- Ben Cott

Re: Fedora in 6th gear

2020-07-17 Thread Vít Ondruch
Thx to everybody who submitted the change proposal. It is nice that people follow the process instead of just pushing something into Fedora without sharing with wider audience. Vít Dne 16. 07. 20 v 19:52 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > In the FESCo meeting summary email sent out today

Re: Koji oops

2020-07-17 Thread Dan Horák
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 15:15:00 +0300 Евгений Пивнев wrote: > What’s wrong with koji? > Yet another maintenance jobs that I missed? > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=47345974 > this is a packaging bug, from build.log

Koji oops

2020-07-17 Thread Евгений Пивнев
What’s wrong with koji? Yet another maintenance jobs that I missed? https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=47345974 https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=47346270

Re: Removing packages from module

2020-07-17 Thread Aleksei Bavshin
On 7/17/20 3:27 AM, Daniel Mach wrote: > Dne 17. 07. 20 v 11:04 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): >> If the package was part of the module during the release of Fedora 32, >> dnf will see 2 versions/builds of the module-stream: >> >>   - the one that existed during the release (containing the package) >>   -

matroska stack update (soname bumps)

2020-07-17 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
Hello, I'm updating the matroska stack to the latest upstream versions, including stable branches as the libraries are security sensitive. libebml and libmatroska come with soname bumps but no incompatible API changes. I tested the rebuilds in copr in advance. I'm rebuilding all dependent package

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20200717.n.0 changes

2020-07-17 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20200715.n.2 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20200717.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:10 Dropped images: 3 Added packages: 8 Dropped packages:3 Upgraded packages: 95 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 6.61 MiB Size of dropped packages

Review swap

2020-07-17 Thread clime
Hello, I have a package rpm-git-tag-sort for a review. Can I swap it with somebody? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1858256 clime ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedo

Re: Claim delve

2020-07-17 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:38:22 CEST Alejandro Saez Morollon wrote: > Hi there, folks. > > Delve[0] (a Golang debugger) was retired due to the impossibility of > building a new version of delve for dependencies issues. I would like > to claim the package and fix the situation. I already have on

[Test-Announce] Fedora 33 Rawhide 20200717.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2020-07-17 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 33 Rawhide 20200717.n.0. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: Removing packages from module

2020-07-17 Thread Daniel Mach
Dne 17. 07. 20 v 11:04 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): On 17. 07. 20 6:47, Aleksei Bavshin wrote: In an optimistic case I'd like to believe that once the package is removed from the modulemd file and a new module update is published, the override magic hacked into dnf would stop masking package from non

Re: [fedora-java] Re: Mass rebuild for f33-java11 side tag completed

2020-07-17 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 11:19, Dan Horák wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:42:45 +0200 > Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > > Could someone with superpowers cancel the following task for me? > > Thanks. > > done, it has already failed on i686 Yeah, that's why I wanted to cancel it. The task was launched witho

Re: FlexiBLAS as BLAS/LAPACK manager - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-07-17 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 11:19, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > On Friday, 17 July 2020 at 10:25, Dave Love wrote: > > There will be hoops to jump through to get packages to configure when > > they don't know about the library. > > From what I understand from the proposal, FlexiBLAS looks

Re: FlexiBLAS as BLAS/LAPACK manager - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-07-17 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Friday, 17 July 2020 at 10:25, Dave Love wrote: > [I found I hadn't sent this earlier, as I should have.] > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FlexiBLAS_as_BLAS/LAPACK_manager > > > > == Summary == > > BLAS/LAPACK packages will be compiled against the FlexiBLAS wrapper > > library, whic

Re: [fedora-java] Re: Mass rebuild for f33-java11 side tag completed

2020-07-17 Thread Dan Horák
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:42:45 +0200 Iñaki Ucar wrote: > Could someone with superpowers cancel the following task for me? > Thanks. done, it has already failed on i686 Dan > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=47330918 > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 09:44, Fabio Val

Re: Removing packages from module

2020-07-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 17. 07. 20 6:47, Aleksei Bavshin wrote: In an optimistic case I'd like to believe that once the package is removed from the modulemd file and a new module update is published, the override magic hacked into dnf would stop masking package from non-modular repository. NEVRA would be the only fac

Re: FlexiBLAS as BLAS/LAPACK manager - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-07-17 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 10:34, Dave Love wrote: > > [I found I hadn't sent this earlier, as I should have.] > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FlexiBLAS_as_BLAS/LAPACK_manager > > > > == Summary == > > BLAS/LAPACK packages will be compiled against the FlexiBLAS wrapper > > library, which

Re: [fedora-java] Re: Mass rebuild for f33-java11 side tag completed

2020-07-17 Thread Iñaki Ucar
Could someone with superpowers cancel the following task for me? Thanks. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=47330918 On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 09:44, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 5:55 PM Mat Booth wrote: > > Any update? Any thoughts on when you want to merge

Re: Ditch RPM in favor of DPKG

2020-07-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 3:15 AM Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > > > Oddly, the subject of the original post infers getting rid of rpm but > > the post itself sounds like it's proposing something different and > > that's why I decided to speak up. > > Yes, poor joke of mine, keeps hitting home though :)

Re: Mass rebuild for f33-java11 side tag completed

2020-07-17 Thread Christian Heimes
> Hello! > > toatal packages: 610 > passed: 427 > failed: 176 > > From the failures, there is 29 which passed in the copr before, and now are > thus failing > from two > reasons - unrelated change, or non-intel64-arch failure. I will put this to > FTBF bugs for > those 29 > pacakges, > > > In

Re: FlexiBLAS as BLAS/LAPACK manager - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-07-17 Thread Dave Love
[I found I hadn't sent this earlier, as I should have.] > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FlexiBLAS_as_BLAS/LAPACK_manager > > == Summary == > BLAS/LAPACK packages will be compiled against the FlexiBLAS wrapper > library, which will set OpenBLAS as system-wide default backend, and > at the

Re: [fedora-java] Re: Mass rebuild for f33-java11 side tag completed

2020-07-17 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 5:55 PM Mat Booth wrote: > Any update? Any thoughts on when you want to merge the f33-java11 side tag > back into rawhide? I second this, please don't wait two weeks [0] for merging the side tag, it's only going to cause merge conflict problems with packages that get rebu

Re: Ditch RPM in favor of DPKG

2020-07-17 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
> Oddly, the subject of the original post infers getting rid of rpm but > the post itself sounds like it's proposing something different and > that's why I decided to speak up. Yes, poor joke of mine, keeps hitting home though :) Ditching RPM in favor of DPKG was never meant to be a system-wide c