Re: F37 Change: RetireARMv7 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
Thank you, Peter, for coming up with this! I have to say this is really good news to hear indeed - I have been waiting silently for this for quite a long time. Kudos, Jens ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: Self Introduction: Dr Anirban Mitra

2022-02-07 Thread Benson Muite
Dear Anirban, স্বাগতম (welcome)! Awesome story, an inspiration to others. Regards, Benson On 2/8/22 3:29 AM, Anirban Mitra via devel wrote: Hello I am Dr Anirban Mitra. I an is open-source enthusiast and amateur typographer, I am a physician by profession. I had worked for GNU/ Linux Bengali/ B

Re: RPM Spec scriptlets

2022-02-07 Thread Paweł Marciniak
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 9:57 PM Paweł Marciniak wrote: > At first glance, this happens because you apply the scriptlets to the > wrong package. "%pre -n python3-%{github_name}" This is the missing part, thank you Fabio. > and you should probably also use the macros provided by > systemd-rpm-mac

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-02-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 8:12 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Miro Hrončok wrote: > > gstreamer1 orphan, uraeus, wtaymans1 weeks > > ago > > gstreamer1-plugins-baseorphan, uraeus, wtaymans1 weeks > > ago > > gstreamer1-plugins-goodorphan,

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-02-07 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Miro Hrončok wrote: > gstreamer1 orphan, uraeus, wtaymans1 weeks > ago > gstreamer1-plugins-baseorphan, uraeus, wtaymans1 weeks > ago > gstreamer1-plugins-goodorphan, uraeus, wtaymans1 weeks > ago How did the gstreamer1 stack

Self Introduction: Dr Anirban Mitra

2022-02-07 Thread Anirban Mitra via devel
Hello I am Dr Anirban Mitra. I an is open-source enthusiast and amateur typographer, I am a physician by profession. I had worked for GNU/ Linux Bengali/ Bangla localisation project and worked on a few open source OpenType fonts in Bengali.I had described my journey in open source in an article 

Re: What should we do about the "Install only newly recommended packages on upgrades" F36 change?

2022-02-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 03:01:43PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2022-02-07 at 15:17 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > The change owner proposed 4 options to move forward. I understand them as > > follows: > > > > 1. do nothing, keep it broken > > 2. disable this behavior by default,

Re: What should we do about the "Install only newly recommended packages on upgrades" F36 change?

2022-02-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-02-07 at 15:17 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > The change owner proposed 4 options to move forward. I understand them as > follows: > > 1. do nothing, keep it broken > 2. disable this behavior by default, keep it optional, but keep it broken > 3. do not ignore already broken weak ric

Re: F37 Change: RetireARMv7 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2022-02-06 at 14:54 +0100, David Bold wrote: > > > I just tried to install Fedora on RPi, and I ended up on [1] where I > downloaded an image. That was unfortunately armv7 - and I needed to go > to [2] - which was not linked in the descriptions [3,4]. Also the wiki > lists first the armv7

Re: dnf install removes /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.wants/myservice.target symlink

2022-02-07 Thread Barry
> On 7 Feb 2022, at 19:19, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > >  > Slightly off-topic, but I think it's relevant: > > If 'myservice' and 'ods-prx' are referring to the same thing, I think you're > supposed to use 'systemctl preset' instead of 'systemctl enable'. This allows > the admin to decide whe

Re: F37 Change: RetireARMv7 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 5:27 PM Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 7:55 AM David Bold wrote: > > > > On 11/15/21 20:15, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7 > > > > > ... > > > == Scope == > > > > > > * Proposal owners: Work with rel-eng to disab

Re: F37 Change: RetireARMv7 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 7:55 AM David Bold wrote: > > On 11/15/21 20:15, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7 > > > ... > > == Scope == > > > > * Proposal owners: Work with rel-eng to disable the architecture in > > koji, remove all the various pungi pieces and c

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 at 17:10, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 11:20 AM Kevin Kofler via devel > wrote: > > > > Marc-André Lureau wrote: > > > Release build should be tested on Windows. It is easy to build and test > > > natively with msys2 nowadays, or build for other targets. Why not

Re: RPM Spec scriptlets

2022-02-07 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 9:57 PM Paweł Marciniak wrote: > > Can someone tell me why none of the scriptlets (%pre, post etc) in the spec > file > https://download.copr.fedorainfracloud.org/results/sunwire/rpmtest/fedora-35-x86_64/03364007-python-input-remapper/python-input-remapper.spec > work?

RPM Spec scriptlets

2022-02-07 Thread Paweł Marciniak
Can someone tell me why none of the scriptlets (%pre, post etc) in the spec file https://download.copr.fedorainfracloud.org/results/sunwire/rpmtest/fedora-35-x86_64/03364007-python-input-remapper/python-input-remapper.spec work? After building the package, all scriptlets are missing and rpm -q

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F37MingwUCRT > > Since mingw-*.spec are very repetitive and cumbersome to modify (each > mingw32, mingw64, ucrt package has to be defined manually, and this is > tedious and error-prone), a custom MinGW/Fedora tool or solution will > be proposed. In the mean

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 07.02.22 um 18:08 schrieb Neal Gompa: If anything, our MinGW stack is an amazing selling point compared to other distributions, because we provide a usable framework to build applications for Windows. I'd like to second this. I felt relieved once I found out that I could build a tiny in-ho

Re: Rawhide update stuck in bodhi with weird test failures

2022-02-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2022-02-05 at 09:28 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > "This update has been submitted for stable by bodhi" > > Thanks everyone! You might wanna just check after the push happens what happened to the package you untagged. I don't actually know offhand what will happen to it in this situat

Re: What should we do about the "Install only newly recommended packages on upgrades" F36 change?

2022-02-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 03:25:44PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > 1. do nothing, keep it broken > > I pretty much dislike this option. Clearly, the current behavior is not what > was approved in this change proposal. For me, it's a bad option. Agreed. We want to use langpacks with rich depenendec

Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-02-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: dnf install removes /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.wants/myservice.target symlink

2022-02-07 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Slightly off-topic, but I think it's relevant: If 'myservice' and 'ods-prx' are referring to the same thing, I think you're supposed to use 'systemctl preset' instead of 'systemctl enable'. This allows the admin to decide whether the installed service/target/timer/etc. should be enabled during pac

dnf install removes /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.wants/myservice.target symlink

2022-02-07 Thread Barry Scott
This is not for a package in Fedora, its for a package I'm working on for Oracle Linux 8. I install /usr/lib/systemd/system/myservice.target that has: [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target In %post I run this: ls -l /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants /usr/bin/systemctl --no-reload enabl

Re: font copies in sphinx generated documentation

2022-02-07 Thread Ben Beasley
This is indeed a can of worms. A previous discussion on the packaging list[1] concluded that, despite the common practice of packaging Sphinx-generated HTML documentation, there is probably no practical way to do so without running afoul of guidelines about bundled or precompiled JavaScript, CS

Re: What should we do about the "Install only newly recommended packages on upgrades" F36 change?

2022-02-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 07. 02. 22 17:17, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: So I would currently tend towards: * postponing the Change to F37, * implementing option 2. for F36 (i.e., adding the option as experimental and disabled by default, which should not need a Change at all), AND * looking further for a proper so

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Neal Gompa wrote: > (Sidebar, I wish the target would be renamed from mingw to windows, Well, in addition to the trademark concerns, that would also lose the distinction from Cygwin. > because it's kind of confusing when we don't even rely on a glibc-nt > port...) That would not really be *Mini

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 11:20 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Marc-André Lureau wrote: > > Release build should be tested on Windows. It is easy to build and test > > natively with msys2 nowadays, or build for other targets. Why not use > > that? > > Because I do not have a computer running Wi

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Marc-André Lureau wrote: >> Release build should be tested on Windows. It is easy to build and test >> natively with msys2 nowadays, or build for other targets. Why not use >> that? > > Because I do not have a computer running Windows, nor a Windows license. PS: We

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Release build should be tested on Windows. It is easy to build and test > natively with msys2 nowadays, or build for other targets. Why not use > that? Because I do not have a computer running Windows, nor a Windows license. Kevin Kofler

Re: What should we do about the "Install only newly recommended packages on upgrades" F36 change?

2022-02-07 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Miro Hrončok wrote: > this is about the following Fedora change: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ExcludeFromWeakAutodetect > > In the tracking bugzilla, the relevant comment is: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2013327#c4 > > If I understand this correctly, the current

Re: [Test-Announce] 2022-02-07 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2022-02-07 Thread Luna Jernberg
Attending today Den lör 5 feb. 2022 02:18Adam Williamson skrev: > # Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting > # Date: 2022-02-07 > # Time: 16:00 UTC > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) > # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.libera.chat > > Greetings testers! > > It's Branch week, R

font copies in sphinx generated documentation

2022-02-07 Thread Petr Menšík
Hi! I maintain bind package, which generates html documentation using sphinx and sphinx_rtd_theme. I admit this format is quite popular. Once I have noticed that bind-doc package is quite big. When looking why, I have found not a small number of static copies were generated by documentation proces

Fedora-Rawhide-20220207.n.0 compose check report

2022-02-07 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 6 of 43 required tests failed, 4 results missing openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Failed openQA tests: 35/228 (x86_64), 25/159 (aarch64) New failures (same test not failed i

Re: What should we do about the "Install only newly recommended packages on upgrades" F36 change?

2022-02-07 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 3:26 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > 3. do not ignore already broken weak rich deps (partially reverts the > > change) > > This sounds like a possible path forward -- it would probably still be an > improvement over the the Fedora 35 status quo, however the results might be >

Re: What should we do about the "Install only newly recommended packages on upgrades" F36 change?

2022-02-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 07. 02. 22 15:17, Miro Hrončok wrote: Hello, this is about the following Fedora change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ExcludeFromWeakAutodetect In the tracking bugzilla, the relevant comment is: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2013327#c4 If I understand this correctly

Orphaning javahelp2

2022-02-07 Thread Omair Majid
Hi, I have just orphaned javahelp2: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/javahelp2 As far as I can tell, nothing needs it: $ repoquery -q --repo=rawhide{,-source,-modular} --whatrequires '*javahelp*' Upstream has been dead for years and the last commit was in 2017: https://github.com/javaee/jav

Re: F36 Change: Enable exclude_from_weak_autodetect by default in LIBDNF (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Jaroslav Mracek
It looks like that the feature made a user case with langpacks broken. See additional reports: Bug 2048394 - dnf should pull weak dependencies in install transaction Bug 2033130 - exclude_from_weak_autodetect=true effectively renders rich weak dependencies useless Bug 2042808 - weakdeps not worki

What should we do about the "Install only newly recommended packages on upgrades" F36 change?

2022-02-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
Hello, this is about the following Fedora change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ExcludeFromWeakAutodetect In the tracking bugzilla, the relevant comment is: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2013327#c4 If I understand this correctly, the current implementation is not doing

non-responsive maintainer: spredzy

2022-02-07 Thread Pavel Valena
Hello, does anyone know how to reach spredzy (CC'd)? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2051519 Regards, Pavel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora C

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Ron Yorston
Marc-André Lureau wrote: >FYI, UCRT can be installed on various Windows: >https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/update-for-universal-c-runtime-in-windows-c0514201-7fe6-95a3-b0a5-287930f3560c Sure, it *can* be. But that doesn't mean I can rely on my end users to be able to do that. Currently

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 2:00 PM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 01:38:17PM +0400, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > > Hi > > > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 1:16 PM Daniel P. Berrangé > > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Feb 04, 2022 at 05:20:31PM +0400, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > > > > Hi >

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Sandro Mani
As noted in the mingw list thread, for me the objective of version parity between native and mingw packages of the current mingw-environment is a big selling point. My real-world experience reflects what others shared in this post, namely that by far most issues which pop up during testing are t

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 10:50:00AM +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: > > On 07.02.22 10:29, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > > Hi > > > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 1:01 PM Daniel P. Berrangé > > wrote: > > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 12:17:08AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel > > wrote: > > > Marc-And

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 01:38:17PM +0400, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Hi > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 1:16 PM Daniel P. Berrangé > wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 04, 2022 at 05:20:31PM +0400, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 8:18 PM Kevin Kofler via devel < > > > deve

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Sandro Mani
On 07.02.22 10:29, Marc-André Lureau wrote: Hi On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 1:01 PM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 12:17:08AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Marc-André Lureau wrote: > > Fwiw, given that the primary use case for a cross-toolchain is for

Re: Non-responsive packagers: lef, msehnout, shaneallcroft

2022-02-07 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 9:58 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, > > The packagers listed here have been receiving a daily email asking them to > either adjust their bugzilla or their FAS account so the email address in FAS > matches an existing bugzilla account. > > Having a bu

Fedora-Cloud-34-20220207.0 compose check report

2022-02-07 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-34-20220206.0): ID: 1120609 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 01:29:45PM +0400, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Hi > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 1:01 PM Daniel P. Berrangé > wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 12:17:08AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > Marc-André Lureau wrote: > > > > Fwiw, given that the primary use case for a

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 1:16 PM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Fri, Feb 04, 2022 at 05:20:31PM +0400, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > > Hi > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 8:18 PM Kevin Kofler via devel < > > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > > > For the record: > > > > > > https://www.msy

Re: Non-responsive packagers: lef, msehnout, shaneallcroft

2022-02-07 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 09:58:07 +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Good Morning Everyone, Hello, > - shaneallcroft contacted since January 28th > > shaneallcroft is main admin of rpms/pyplane > shaneallcroft has a bugzilla override on rpms/pyplane Shane is active. I'll contact him on the channels

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 1:01 PM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 12:17:08AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Marc-André Lureau wrote: > > > Fwiw, given that the primary use case for a cross-toolchain is for > > > developer needs, I think it is reasonable to have only

Re: some dnf dependency quirks in rawhide?

2022-02-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2/7/22 01:00, Marius Schwarz wrote: Am 06.02.22 um 22:43 schrieb Fabio Valentini: On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 10:34 PM Marius Schwarz wrote: Hi, deinstalling the rpmfusion package "pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-freeworld", which should not be required by anything: [root@fedorapine ~]# rpm -q --w

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Fri, Feb 04, 2022 at 05:20:31PM +0400, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Hi > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 8:18 PM Kevin Kofler via devel < > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > For the record: > > > > https://www.msys2.org/docs/environments/#msvcrt-vs-ucrt states: > > > MSVCRT […] Works out of

Fedora-Cloud-35-20220207.0 compose check report

2022-02-07 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-35-20220206.0): ID: 1120591 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Re: some dnf dependency quirks in rawhide?

2022-02-07 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 06.02.22 um 22:43 schrieb Fabio Valentini: On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 10:34 PM Marius Schwarz wrote: Hi, deinstalling the rpmfusion package "pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-freeworld", which should not be required by anything: [root@fedorapine ~]# rpm -q --whatrequires pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-

Re: F37 Change: MinGW UCRT target (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-07 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 12:17:08AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Marc-André Lureau wrote: > > Fwiw, given that the primary use case for a cross-toolchain is for > > developer needs, I think it is reasonable to have only UCRT target in the > > future. > > > > Projects releasing for Windows

Non-responsive packagers: lef, msehnout, shaneallcroft

2022-02-07 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
Good Morning Everyone, The packagers listed here have been receiving a daily email asking them to either adjust their bugzilla or their FAS account so the email address in FAS matches an existing bugzilla account. Having a bugzilla account is mandatory per: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the