Re: F38 prospoal: Enable bootupd for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-11-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-11-21 at 16:39 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > We could do the same thing SUSE does and switch to calling > > > scripts/tools to install into /boot and /boot/efi rather than doing it > > > directly from RPM. That would simplify the logic of bootupd and allow > > > it to just call

Re: F38 prospoal: Enable bootupd for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-11-21 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > In particular, two reasons why an upgrade might be interrupted were raised: > power being cut and the system crashing. Bootupd (or any other daemon) cannot > do much about crashes so this isn't a good motivation. For power, w

Re: F38 prospoal: Enable bootupd for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-11-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 4:17 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 03:55:45PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 3:53 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraSilverblueBootupd > > > > == Sum

Re: F38 prospoal: Enable bootupd for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-11-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 03:55:45PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 3:53 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraSilverblueBootupd > > > == Summary == > > > > > > By design, ostree does not manage bootloader updates as they c

Re: F38 prospoal: Enable bootupd for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-11-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 3:53 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraSilverblueBootupd > > == Summary == > > > > By design, ostree does not manage bootloader updates as they can not > > (yet) happen in a transactional, atomic and safe fashion. Thus

Re: F38 prospoal: Enable bootupd for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-11-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraSilverblueBootupd > == Summary == > > By design, ostree does not manage bootloader updates as they can not > (yet) happen in a transactional, atomic and safe fashion. Thus bootupd > (https://github.com/coreos/bootupd) was created to solve this issue >

GSSDP and GUPnP 1.6 coming to Rawhide

2022-11-21 Thread David King
The 1.6 series of both GSSDP and GUPnP was released a while ago, and the 1.6.2 releases contain an important fix for Rygel (which itself depends on the 1.6 series in the latest version): https://discourse.gnome.org/t/important-gssdp-gupnp-1-6-2/12394 As these versions bring new sonames, I have

Re: FF 107.0 scratch builds - just for fun

2022-11-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-11-21 at 12:43 -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > On 11/21/22 09:23, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 19:24 -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > > On 11/20/22 17:40, Simo Sorce wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 17:22 -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > > > > On 11/20/22

Re: FF 107.0 scratch builds - just for fun

2022-11-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:45 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 11/21/22 09:23, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 19:24 -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > >> On 11/20/22 17:40, Simo Sorce wrote: > >>> On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 17:22 -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > On 11/20/22 07:24

Re: FF 107.0 scratch builds - just for fun

2022-11-21 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 11/21/22 09:23, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 19:24 -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: >> On 11/20/22 17:40, Simo Sorce wrote: >>> On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 17:22 -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: On 11/20/22 07:24, Bojan Smojver via devel wrote: > Now that nss 3.85 has been built,

Re: what is our official rule on preserving the upgrade path between releases?

2022-11-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-11-21 at 09:00 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Hi, > > I was looking for a clear answer in the packaging docs to the question whether > package nevr must be always higher in later releases. I recall people saying > that > now 'distro-upgrade' is the recommended upgrade me

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-21 Thread Jonathan Lebon
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 12:43 PM Colin Walters wrote: > - This proposal is explicitly trying to tie everything together. I think > without the "bigger picture", it's actually *more* confusing. For example, > just pushing the container images does little unless we invest in them as a > derivat

Re: FF 107.0 scratch builds - just for fun

2022-11-21 Thread Simo Sorce
On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 19:24 -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > On 11/20/22 17:40, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 17:22 -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > > On 11/20/22 07:24, Bojan Smojver via devel wrote: > > > > Now that nss 3.85 has been built, I thought I'd have a go at building

Re: fedpkg upload broken?

2022-11-21 Thread Petr Pisar
V Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 10:18:29AM +0100, Than Ngo napsal(a): > i cannot upload new tarball chromium-107.0.5304.110-clean.tar.xz (1.6GB) for > chromium: > > fedpkg upload chromium-107.0.5304.110-clean.tar.xz > Uploading: chromium-107.0.5304.110-clean.tar.xz > ###

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20221121.n.0 changes

2022-11-21 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20221120.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20221121.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 1 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 33 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 94.32 KiB Size of dropped packages

Next Open NeuroFedora Meeting: 1300 UTC on Monday, 21 November (Today)

2022-11-21 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello everyone, Please join us at the next Open NeuroFedora team meeting on Monday 21st November(today!) at 1300UTC in #fedora-neuro on Matrix or IRC (Libera.chat). The meeting is a public meeting, and open for everyone to attend. You can join us over: Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#neuro:fedorapr

Re: what is our official rule on preserving the upgrade path between releases?

2022-11-21 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Mon, 2022-11-21 at 09:00 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Hi, > > I was looking for a clear answer in the packaging docs to the > question whether > package nevr must be always higher in later releases. I recall people > saying that > now 'distro-upgrade' is the recommended upgrade m

Re: fedpkg upload broken

2022-11-21 Thread Ondrej Nosek
Just to publish the result of the hidden 1:1 communication with Than Ngo: The file is probably too big and there might be a limit on httpd. For example, this version of httpd 2.4 newly introduces 1G limit: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/core.html#limitrequestbody But I don't have access to

Re: FF 107.0 scratch builds - just for fun

2022-11-21 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 20. 11. 22 v 13:24 Bojan Smojver via devel napsal(a): PS. I am not the FF maintainer (obviously), so this is just for kicks. Feel free to use Copr for such experiments   https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/ Miroslav ___ devel mailing list -- devel

Re: what is our official rule on preserving the upgrade path between releases?

2022-11-21 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 21. 11. 22 v 10:00 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): So… has there been any change of the Guidelines on this and where is the official policy documented? AFAIK no. We stick to common sense. In good and bad meaning of that. Miroslav ___ devel

Re: FF 107.0 scratch builds - just for fun

2022-11-21 Thread Bojan Smojver via devel
Of course, relevant build overrides had to be provided, because required version of nss was not in stable at the time I started these scratch builds. Thought I'd mention it for completeness. -- Bojan ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: FF 107.0 scratch builds - just for fun

2022-11-21 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20/11/2022 23:22, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: Has switching to bundled NSS been considered? For browsers anything that holds up an update is very,*very* bad. No. Bundling cryptographic libraries is a very, very bad idea. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___

Fwd: fedpkg upload broken

2022-11-21 Thread Than Ngo
Weitergeleitete Nachricht Betreff:Re: fedpkg upload broken Datum: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:38:23 +0100 Von:Than Ngo An: Ondrej Nosek Am 21.11.22 um 10:29 schrieb Ondrej Nosek: Hi, I checked the functionality and for me, it worked. Could you, please, run it

Re: SPDX Statistics

2022-11-21 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 20. 11. 22 v 18:46 Ralf Corsépius napsal(a): Why don't you extract the License-field from *.rpms and check if they comply to the new rules? It would work for cases like GPLv2 -> GPL-2.0-only. But you can have cases like:     MIT -> MIT     MIT -> MIT-Modern-Variant so at the end you wan

fedpkg upload broken?

2022-11-21 Thread Than Ngo
Hi, i cannot upload new tarball chromium-107.0.5304.110-clean.tar.xz (1.6GB) for chromium: fedpkg upload chromium-107.0.5304.110-clean.tar.xz Uploading: chromium-107.0.5304.110-clean.tar.xz 100.0% Could not execute uplo

Re: Web Assembly on Fedora: interested in a Fedora SIG to work on this?

2022-11-21 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 19:41, Michael Dawson wrote: > As Web Assembly (WASM) gains momentum we’d like to create a SIG as a > place to collaborate to ensure that Fedora is a great platform to both > build and run WASM workloads. This includes looking at the toolchains > needed to build WASM

what is our official rule on preserving the upgrade path between releases?

2022-11-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hi, I was looking for a clear answer in the packaging docs to the question whether package nevr must be always higher in later releases. I recall people saying that now 'distro-upgrade' is the recommended upgrade method and the requirement of keeping the upgrade path without downgrades isn't ther