Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 4/21/23 23:38, Ben Cotton wrote: On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 4:05 PM Maxwell G wrote: What evidence shows that the group is ever shrinking? I often see Self Introduction posts and new people interacting with project. I suppose that whether they continue interacting afterwards is another questio

Self Introduction: Herald Yu

2023-04-23 Thread Herald Yu
Hello everyone, I am Herald come from Shanghai, China. It's nice to meet you in Fedora Devel Community. I am a Tech Writer who is passionate about open-source technology. I have contributed to JuiceFS and I am willing to package and maintain this software package. I hope to join the Fedora deve

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 4/21/23 22:07, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:54:09AM -0400, JT wrote: So I'm interested by what you bring up here. Have you run into situations where someone wanted to contribute to development but was unwilling to use a mailing list? With a community as big as Fedora and

Re: Surprise! Fedora Linux 38 is here!

2023-04-23 Thread Luna Jernberg
https://linuxunplugged.com/507 Fedora 38 Review episode of LUP On 4/18/23, Matthew Miller wrote: > Fedora Linux 38 is coming to you a week early! > > Our release schedule has two dates: a main target date (which you > should usually expect) and an "early" target (which is is kind of > like the th

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 11:21:58PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > We could probibly come up with some > > better way to start new topics/discussions > > Yes I think I can come up with a better way. Give each tag its own > email address, like a mailing list. That was very easy

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 11:21:19PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > One bug I hit setting this up this weekend... some (but not all) of the > > categories appear to have newlines in the List-ID: header. ;( > > > > ie, > > > > List-ID: Fedora Discussion | Ask Fedora Ask in En

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Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > We could probibly come up with some > better way to start new topics/discussions Yes I think I can come up with a better way. Give each tag its own email address, like a mailing list. That was very easy to come up with. You can write the tag after the plus sign if that makes

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > One bug I hit setting this up this weekend... some (but not all) of the > categories appear to have newlines in the List-ID: header. ;( > > ie, > > List-ID: Fedora Discussion | Ask Fedora Ask in English > > > Hopefully this is a bug that can be fixed... > > So the abov

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Hello Matthew, everyone, The TL;DR version of my thoughts and suggestions on this topic: implement the improvements suggested so far as best as possible, so that the people who want to interact with Discourse through their mail reader can do so with little to no friction. Clearly define and docume

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Randy Barlow via devel
On 4/21/23 14:05, Matthew Miller wrote: Accessiblity is important to Fedora, and I take this seriously. For Discourse, hit the ? key to bring up the page describing keyboard shortcuts. One thing I don't care for when it comes to web apps and keyboard shortcuts is that they are non-standard. Wh

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 20/04/23 23:20, Matthew Miller ha scritto: > It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new > === > > ... > Matthew Miller > > Fedora Project Leader I've tried to follow up all the replies this post has caused, but it

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 04:54:48PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 23/04/23 17:01, Björn Persson ha scritto: > > > > You let the quarrel go this far before you even bothered to mention > > that? You're clearly not serious about selling the email features of > > Discourse. > > > > You're t

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 03:04:26PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > So I've been using the email bridge for a while (I think since we set it > up) and it's got it's issues for sure, but I am not sure if it's as bad > as folks fear. > > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/guide-to-interacting-wit

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 05:01:53PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > > There _are_ email notifications, > > You keep talking about "notifications". I don't want a notification > saying "somebody said something; run our Javascript program to find out > what it was". I want the

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 23/04/23 17:01, Björn Persson ha scritto: > > You let the quarrel go this far before you even bothered to mention > that? You're clearly not serious about selling the email features of > Discourse. > > You're trying to convince email users that your preferred communication > program is better th

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, Apr 23 2023 at 05:01:53 PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: But some people in this thread talk as if it's possible to get the actual messages by email. I even see some hints that a proper tree view might be possible. But many others say the email features of Discourse are no good. The over

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Björn Persson
Matthew Miller wrote: > It is also possible to enable > new topics by email, but that's vulernable to impersonation (and spam) so > if we enable that there probably will be a moderation step. Email signed with OpenPGP/MIME solves the impersonation and spam problems. A message could be allowed to b

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Björn Persson
Matthew Miller wrote: > There _are_ email notifications, You keep talking about "notifications". I don't want a notification saying "somebody said something; run our Javascript program to find out what it was". I want the actual message delivered to my mailbox. But some people in this thread tal

Re: package WP-CLI needs update

2023-04-23 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 20.04.23 um 11:01 schrieb Dan Horák: On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 09:20:27 +0200 Marius Schwarz wrote: Hi, package WP-CLI needs an update to 2.7.1 in all releases as in the current state, it's useless. A bugreport against the package is open since nov. 2022: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.c

Heads-up: edflib 1.24 coming to Rawhide

2023-04-23 Thread Ben Beasley
In one week (2023-04-30), or slightly later, I plan to update edflib to 1.24, which includes a .so version bump. The shared library versioning was previously added downstream; now upstream is handling it. The package is currently a leaf, so there should be no impact. ___

Re: fedora-review crash

2023-04-23 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 3:37 PM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Thu, 2023-03-23 at 01:38 +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 8:29 PM Sérgio Basto > > wrote: > > > > > > ah. I think this is one bug in Fedora review (already reported) > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sh

Re: fedora-review crash

2023-04-23 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Thu, 2023-03-23 at 01:38 +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 8:29 PM Sérgio Basto > wrote: > > > > ah. I think this is one bug in Fedora review (already reported) > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1824526 > Sorry, I want mention this bug report htt

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230423.n.0 changes

2023-04-23 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20230422.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20230423.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 30 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size

Re: SPDX Statistics - ZX Spectrum edition

2023-04-23 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 4:09 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > New version of fedora-license-data and license-validate has been released. > > NEW: the package fedora-license-data now contains BNF grammar which you > can use. It is available in `/usr/share/fedora-license-data/grammar.lark` > You'll have

Re: Broken gcc 13.0.1-0.15.fc39 (missing )

2023-04-23 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 23/04/23 11:17, Tomasz Kłoczko ha scritto: > Hi, > > Looks like with latest gcc 31.0.1-0.15.fc39 many packages builds are failing > with: > > /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/13/include/immintrin.h:135:10: fatal error: > amxcomplexintrin.h: No such file or directory > 135 | #include > | ^~~~

Re: SPDX Statistics - ZX Spectrum edition

2023-04-23 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 23/04/23 11:09, Miroslav Suchý ha scritto: > > The list of packages needed to be converted is again here: > > https://pagure.io/copr/license-validate/blob/main/f/packages-without-spdx-final.txt > > List by package maintainers is here > > https://pagure.io/copr/license-validate/blob/main/f/packag

Broken gcc 13.0.1-0.15.fc39 (missing )

2023-04-23 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
Hi, Looks like with latest gcc 31.0.1-0.15.fc39 many packages builds are failing with: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/13/include/immintrin.h:135:10: fatal error: amxcomplexintrin.h: No such file or directory 135 | #include | ^~~~ https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/s

SPDX Statistics - ZX Spectrum edition

2023-04-23 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Two weeks ago we had: * 22918 spec files in Fedora * 29406license tags in all spec files * 19348 tags have not been converted to SPDX yet * 7521tags can be trivially converted using `license-fedora2spdx` * Progress: 34% ░░░███ 100% Today we have: * 22961 spec files in Fedora * 29459

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 4/21/23 18:55, Jonathan Corbet wrote: Matthew Miller writes: On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 08:45:31AM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: I will just make the point that, when you make this switch, you will be missing people as well. Projects that switch to forum systems, to a great extent, go dark f

Re: RFC: No koji builds during mass branching and updates-testing enablement

2023-04-23 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 22/04/23 23:46, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 09:03:11PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 8:56 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> * Cancel all builds that are in progress. Maintainers can resubmit after >>> the outage with the appropriate branches. >>> * unpush