Hey all, I'm Daniel Milnes.
By day I'm a CyberSecurity Engineer at LMAX Group, part of the team responsible
for running ~2k Rocky Linux servers, and by night I'm head of Infrastructure
for RACTF, an open-source framework for hosting Cyber Security Capture-The-Flag
events. This means I've got a
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event
for Fedora 39 Rawhide 20230603.n.1. Please help run some tests for this
nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly
release validation testing, see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki
How far along is this? Possible in the next 5-10 years or so?
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On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 9:09 AM Matthew Miller mailto:mat...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:
I think this sentiment is getting ahead of things. This thread _is_ that
effort.
Yes, but. In general, a better approach is to say "we plan on orphaning the packages
in $timeframe".
...
RH, for th
On 6/2/23 8:49 AM, Terry Bowling wrote:
I appreciate and am empathetic to all of those carrying the burden of
this and the thousands of other RPM packages. As a users of Fedora +
RPM Fusion + Cinnamon Desktop as my daily laptop driver since 2011, I
love Fedora and am a heavy user of Flatpacks.
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 9:09 AM Matthew Miller
wrote:
> I think this sentiment is getting ahead of things. This thread _is_ that
effort.
Yes, but. In general, a better approach is to say "we plan on orphaning the
packages in $timeframe". Even if $timeframe is a week, it shifts the
perception to "
On Sat, Jun 3 2023 at 09:56:40 AM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
wrote:
Yes, Fedora is dying. Slow, but imminent. IBM doesn't want to keep it
in
a good condition, so they fired a lot of good engineers. It's very
sad.
I have been using it for years.
I'm not going to defend callous layoffs du
On Sat, Jun 3 2023 at 10:26:07 AM -, John Iliopoulos
wrote:
Hello,
While i completely understand why you do this i do think that it is
important for desktop/workstation oriented devices to have some
optional access to Office directly from the image file. Have you
considered shipping t
Hello,
While i completely understand why you do this i do think that it is important
for desktop/workstation oriented devices to have some optional access to Office
directly from the image file. Have you considered shipping the LibreOffice
flatpak via the ISO much like Fedora Silverblue does wi
> Am 03.06.2023 um 09:56 schrieb Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
> :
>
> On 03/06/2023 02:46, Leslie Satenstein via devel wrote:
>> No LibreOffice, no continuation with Fedora. LO better be there with F39.
>> Without it, all you have is Firefox. It is not enough to keep Fedora
>> Diehards from jumpi
On 03/06/2023 09:51, Samuel Sieb wrote:
Did you read the whole thread? It's not going anywhere. People have
stepped up to maintain it.
LibreOffice is a complex project. It will be very difficult to maintain
it. It's not just a trivial Version+Release bump, no. They will need to
backport pat
On 03/06/2023 02:46, Leslie Satenstein via devel wrote:
No LibreOffice, no continuation with Fedora. LO better be there with
F39. Without it, all you have is Firefox. It is not enough to keep
Fedora Diehards from jumping to another popular distribution.
Yes, Fedora is dying. Slow, but imminent
> If I understand the announcement correctly, future RHEL will not include
> LibreOffice
> anymore. That’s the reason, why the maintainers have withdrawn.
>
>
> Instead of Flatpak I would prefer to pick up the software directly from the
> project. LO
> provides a rpm. Maybe we have to change ou
On 6/2/23 19:50, Ralph Bromley wrote:
This is a stupid bonehead idea, libreoffice is just too big to reliably run in
flatpak.
Plus what about java integration, guess the languagetool plugin wont work now
and I will have to use its stupud online version where you havwe to pay to add
words.
Oh w
> Am 03.06.2023 um 02:06 schrieb Sandro :
>
> On 02-06-2023 16:09, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 01:55:30AM +0200, Sandro wrote:
>>> However, it surprises me that for a package, that is part of the
>>> deliverables of Fedora releases, no coordination effort was made to
>>> tra
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